GDT: GAME 20 | Branny Comes Home to the CTC | Sat Nov 23 2024, 7PM | CBC, SN1

jbeck5

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The effort level is down 50% from when this team was playing well.
They are back to their lack of attention to detail and lack of commitment on defense.
They're compete level is not close to where it has to be.

They just can't sustain it and they just can't deliver when the pressure notches up.

This is 100% on the players and not on the coaches.

The coaches message has not changed from when they were out there to win every shift to where they are now.

It's on the players for sure, but also the coaching.. we haven't seen any accountability.

Can anyone point to one time the coach held a player accountable?

I haven't seen ice time being taken away from any of the core players not playing good enough.

I remember Jacques Martin benching bonk for a period because he took a stupid penalty against Tampa after a whistle he skated to someone and knocked him over and he didn't see the ice in the third.

This was when he was our first line center. I hear stories from Andre Roy (who is in media) about how good Jacques was at benching or scratching anyone who took a bad penalty or didn't back check hard..doesn't matter of your skill level or depth chart rankings.

Now I'm not saying I want Jacques or he's some god...but that is an example of holding players accountable. Everyone who ever played for him knew you weren't going far unless you played a 200ft disciplined game.

All I heard from green is that he holds players accountable...but I have yet to see him use ice time to get players to play the right way.
 

Senscore

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The effort level is down 50% from when this team was playing well.
They are back to their lack of attention to detail and lack of commitment on defense.
They're compete level is not close to where it has to be.

They just can't sustain it and they just can't deliver when the pressure notches up.

This is 100% on the players and not on the coaches.

The coaches message has not changed from when they were out there to win every shift to where they are now.

Agreed. The coach can scream and yell all day long but ultimately the players have to motivate themselves to play hard and consistently so.

I look at the early games, and it looks like a totally different team. Maybe just excited for the new season but that enthusiasm and confidence is gone. Crisp, clean, and quick passing that looked like a team that had really grown familiar with each other now looks like a bunch of guys all playing a different game.

I don't know exactly what goes on in that locker room but the philosophy needs to change.
 
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Micklebot

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You're often defending this team when they're sucking though. Not sure why. Nothing good comes out of it. I'm sure it isn't fun trying to constantly defend a team that always falls short.

Just make fun of them. Call them garbage and other things. Try it. You know you wannaaaaaaaaa.
I've defended what they did well and criticized what they do poorly, they were playing very well prior to this losing streak, so when they've played poorly of late I've pointed to that as something we can hope they'll return to.

When they make garbage plays, I've pointed them out in the GDT, when they play well I praise them for it, (hopefully they'll give me more reason to do that soon)

Not sure what you mean by nothing good comes if it, do you think anything good comes from your complaints about the team?
 

L'Aveuglette

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Posters got too emotional. Nothing new

I still think he might find his game over the next few weeks, especially if he plays with stable linemates, but yeah, so far I am shocked at how cooked he seems to be. This can happen when a 36 year old doesn't skate for weeks at a time and suddenly needs to play at this level, and it's not like he was a great skater to begin with.

If he keeps this shit up though, we need to ship him out ASAP to a cup contender who needs vet experience.
 

Sens of Anarchy

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Most of the team drafted 2015 on need a best in class sports psychologist. They just can't seem to get out of their own heads and play freely. They choke. The pressure to win mounts and they have trouble executing they play frozen, they seem to revert to base instincts that have gotten them in trouble.

Such a Jekyll and Hyde team when things are rolling they look like a real contender and when they dig themselves a hole for whatever reason they look like a bottom feeder that has no concept of how to win.

This year this pisses me off. They talked about no excuses and buying in and they started well and delivered some (few but some) really good performances .. Their collective collapses are extremely strange and seem to be very predictable with this group.
 
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Erik Alfredsson

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Green mixing up the lines again in practice. Don't think I'm a fan of that. Let these guys develop some chemistry together, the constant line mixing can't be good for their confidence and trust in their teammates.
 

L'Aveuglette

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Green mixing up the lines again in practice. Don't think I'm a fan of that. Let these guys develop some chemistry together, the constant line mixing can't be good for their confidence and trust in their teammates.

There's no chemistry to develop right now, and it's still early enough that he can try different combinations before the season is fully over once again.
 

Nova Stutzlia

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How come there's no general thread for the Sens - there's one for Belleville.

Anyway here's something that could go in a general team thread.




Gaudette with Timmy and Brady!
:thumbu::thumbu::thumbu:
 

Sens of Anarchy

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Green mixing up the lines again in practice. Don't think I'm a fan of that. Let these guys develop some chemistry together, the constant line mixing can't be good for their confidence and trust in their teammates.
damned if you do damned if you don't .. they have no spark .. I'd be looking to manufacture one too
 
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