GDT: Game 2: Sharks vs. Ducks 7:00pm NBCSSharks

TheBigDrunkPanda · 2024-10-12T17:32:34-0400

Lebanezer said:

Being reported as a hip boo boo

TheBigDrunkPanda · 2024-10-12T17:38:01-0400

Lebanezer said:
That’s a bit of a stretch

When you say bit of a stretch this is what I’m seeing(for context)

5-2 donks does it matter who scores

The Nemesis · 2024-10-12T17:47:32-0400

Juxtaposer said:
Incoming top-six Barclay Goodrow!

At least it's not top 6 Kunin?

Juxtaposer · 2024-10-12T17:57:38-0400

The Nemesis said:
At least it's not top 6 Kunin?

Exactly.

Hodge · 2024-10-12T18:01:51-0400

Kcoyote3 said:
Hopeful that it’s a one game sit for Gushchin. With Celebrini’s injury I can only imagine the team is going to hurt for offense.

I definitely think it will be a one game sit for Gushchin. Then he'll get sent down to the AHL.

Kcoyote3 · 2024-10-12T18:05:06-0400

Hodge said:
I definitely think it will be a one game sit for Gushchin. Then he'll get sent down to the AHL.

We’ll see, but I think the Celebrini injury gets him more games

slocal · 2024-10-12T18:09:40-0400

SJSharksfan39 said:
I'm not sure if we are still doing SNOGs this year (I haven't seen that one guy who posts the SNOG results in a long while) but it's Saturday and it's a pacific division rival, so might as well:

SNOG

Sharks 4 (Smith, Zetterlund, Walman, Kunin)
Ducks 3 (Carlsson, Vatrano, Strome)

Umm

GDT: - Game 1: Sharks vs. Blues 7:30pm ESPN+/Hulu. It begins!

Celebrini skates by teh bench now and tells Warsofsky "I've played my last game as a San Jose Shark" Will Smith follows with "Same."

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SJSharksfan39 · 2024-10-12T18:33:13-0400

slocal said:
Umm

GDT: - Game 1: Sharks vs. Blues 7:30pm ESPN+/Hulu. It begins!

Celebrini skates by teh bench now and tells Warsofsky "I've played my last game as a San Jose Shark" Will Smith follows with "Same."

forums.hfboards.com

Ok, I missed it. It was a busy night with the Sharks and 49ers. I'm sorry.

coooldude · 2024-10-12T18:36:04-0400

I don't think a decision has been made about what happens to gush. If Grundstrom and Kostin have a bad game, I think he's right back in the lineup.

Lebanezer said:
That’s a bit of a stretch.

I don't see why people think Gush definitively has more offense than Kostin in the NHL. Kostin is far more proven in the NHL, even though neither of them are proven. It's a completely different style, but he's had a 20 game stretch with 0.5ppg. Can't say the same (yet) for Gush but it's far from proven that he brings more offense in the show.

I also agree with @Hodge that the Gush obsession is kind of strange. We all like players to root for but it seems like he's Highlander'd the Bordeleau fan base and Bords is long forgotten for the new shiny toy. Neither of them are likely to be Martin St. Louis. I'm rooting for them too but I also don't have that much attachment. I want one of these fringe guys with potential to hit (incl Kostin, Dell, Grundstrom, Gush, Bords, Thompson) so we have some resources to keep or trade.

Thrun is a good example. Take him or leave him in the big picture, but I'm excited this season that he seems to maybe be pushing into #4 territory.

Alaskanice · 2024-10-12T18:43:13-0400

I’m in for Kostin. If he hits, he’s going to be a very good player.

hohosaregood · 2024-10-12T18:47:51-0400

Would've been cool if they subbed Rutta out for Thompson

timorous me · 2024-10-12T18:49:07-0400

coooldude said:
I don't think a decision has been made about what happens to gush. If Grundstrom and Kostin have a bad game, I think he's right back in the lineup.

I don't see why people think Gush definitively has more offense than Kostin in the NHL. Kostin is far more proven in the NHL, even though neither of them are proven. It's a completely different style, but he's had a 20 game stretch with 0.5ppg. Can't say the same (yet) for Gush but it's far from proven that he brings more offense in the show.

I also agree with @Hodge that the Gush obsession is kind of strange. We all like players to root for but it seems like he's Highlander'd the Bordeleau fan base and Bords is long forgotten for the new shiny toy. Neither of them are likely to be Martin St. Louis. I'm rooting for them too but I also don't have that much attachment. I want one of these fringe guys with potential to hit (incl Kostin, Dell, Grundstrom, Gush, Bords, Thompson) so we have some resources to keep or trade.

Thrun is a good example. Take him or leave him in the big picture, but I'm excited this season that he seems to maybe be pushing into #4 territory.

People like to root for the underdog and Gushchin sort of perfectly epitomizes that. Plus he's fun to watch. And compared to someone like Kostin, we all know he's going to get waaaaay fewer chances to succeed (which sort of speaks to the underdog nature of Gushchin's journey), so while I don't think anyone is rooting against Kostin, they understand the reality of his life in the NHL versus Gushchin's.

BaileyMacTavish · 2024-10-12T18:49:31-0400

It's been a day and I want to forget and I've been in a funk all day. Gonna watch the game tonight but I got a beer on hand this time. Or more. Look I gotta have fun somehow lol

Lebanezer · 2024-10-12T18:59:58-0400

coooldude said:
I don't think a decision has been made about what happens to gush. If Grundstrom and Kostin have a bad game, I think he's right back in the lineup.

I don't see why people think Gush definitively has more offense than Kostin in the NHL. Kostin is far more proven in the NHL, even though neither of them are proven. It's a completely different style, but he's had a 20 game stretch with 0.5ppg. Can't say the same (yet) for Gush but it's far from proven that he brings more offense in the show.

I also agree with @Hodge that the Gush obsession is kind of strange. We all like players to root for but it seems like he's Highlander'd the Bordeleau fan base and Bords is long forgotten for the new shiny toy. Neither of them are likely to be Martin St. Louis. I'm rooting for them too but I also don't have that much attachment. I want one of these fringe guys with potential to hit (incl Kostin, Dell, Grundstrom, Gush, Bords, Thompson) so we have some resources to keep or trade.

Thrun is a good example. Take him or leave him in the big picture, but I'm excited this season that he seems to maybe be pushing into #4 territory.

Gushchin’s best attribute is his offensive ability. With the exception of his extremely small sample size in the NHL, where he’s still scoring at a decent pace, he’s easily outsourced Kostin. In the AHL in 100 fewer games Gushchin has more points than Kostin. Kostin is on his 4th team and is still struggling to establish himself as an NHL regular and lacks the track record at lower levels to warrant the belief that he has more offensive ability than someone who has excelled everywhere he’s played. The Gushchin obsession is overstated by Hodge, he’s taking people’s optimism for a player and weaponizing it for engagement. He’s as much a part of it as anyone who likes Gushchin because he never misses an opportunity to bemoan their positive feelings. You can think Gushchin is not good enough to make it due to his known deficiencies like size, and leave it at that without inflating a severely flawed player’s offensive ability and stating it is equal or better than Gushchin’s.

Cas · 2024-10-12T19:02:36-0400

Lebanezer said:
The Gushchin obsession is overstated by Hodge

It's a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Hodge · 2024-10-12T19:11:38-0400

Lebanezer said:
Gushchin’s best attribute is his offensive ability. With the exception of his extremely small sample size in the NHL, where he’s still scoring at a decent pace, he’s easily outsourced Kostin. In the AHL in 100 fewer games Gushchin has more points than Kostin. Kostin is on his 4th team and is still struggling to establish himself as an NHL regular and lacks the track record at lower levels to warrant the belief that he has more offensive ability than someone who has excelled everywhere he’s played. The Gushchin obsession is overstated by Hodge, he’s taking people’s optimism for a player and weaponizing it for engagement. He’s as much a part of it as anyone who likes Gushchin because he never misses an opportunity to bemoan their positive feelings. You can think Gushchin is not good enough to make it due to his known deficiencies like size, and leave it at that without inflating a severely flawed player’s offensive ability and stating it is equal or better than Gushchin’s.

Great point, why didn't Warsofsky look up Kostin's numbers with the Springfield Thunderbirds before deciding to put him in the lineup?

One symptom of Gushchin obsession is acting like there's any meaningful difference between him and a guy like Kostin or that either guy matters to our future.

Juxtaposer · 2024-10-12T19:23:09-0400

hohosaregood said:
Would've been cool if they subbed Rutta out for Thompson

Nah, Benning. He was so sad to watch last game.

Lebanezer · 2024-10-12T19:45:40-0400

Hodge said:
Great point, why didn't Warsofsky look up Kostin's numbers with the Springfield Thunderbirds before deciding to put him in the lineup?

One symptom of Gushchin obsession is acting like there's any meaningful difference between him and a guy like Kostin or that either guy matters to our future.

The Warsofsky comment is totally irrelevant and provides no value to the conversation. I'm always fascinated that you choose to lead with a wild inflammatory nonsense statement as support for your appeals to authority. However, I think the most entertaining part is that you don't even try to be a respected member of the forum, that you're totally fine being a caricature.

Any player who puts on the uniform has a chance to make a meaningful difference to the Sharks' future.

Hodge · 2024-10-12T19:55:46-0400

Lebanezer said:
The Warsofsky comment is totally irrelevant and provides no value to the conversation. I'm always fascinated that you choose to lead with a wild inflammatory nonsense statement as support for your appeals to authority. However, I think the most entertaining part is that you don't even try to be a respected member of the forum, that you're totally fine being a caricature.

You're the one claiming Gushchin is a better offensive player than Kostin based on AHL stats from 5 years ago.

Lebanezer said:
Any player who puts on the uniform has a chance to make a meaningful difference to the Sharks' future.

If you truly believed this you wouldn't whine every time someone else gets to play over the golden goose.

hohosaregood · 2024-10-12T20:02:11-0400

Juxtaposer said:
Nah, Benning. He was so sad to watch last game.

Oh yea him for sure. I completely forgot about Benning. Like censored from my brain after last game

gaucholoco3 · 2024-10-12T20:04:12-0400

Snog
Sharks 4
Eklund, Toffoli, Kostin, Zetterlund
Ducks 2
Carlsson, McTavish

Lebanezer · 2024-10-12T20:11:53-0400

Hodge said:
You're the one claiming Gushchin is a better offensive player than Kostin based on AHL stats from 5 years ago.

If you truly believed this you wouldn't whine every time someone else gets to play over the golden goose.

Burden of proof is on you (Kostin was in the AHL playing games 2 years ago). Prove to me that Kostin is as good offensively as Gushchin with the data available. Even an appeal to authority won't work without corroborating evidence.

Hodge · 2024-10-12T20:17:48-0400

Lebanezer said:
Burden of proof is on you (Kostin was in the AHL playing games 2 years ago). Prove to me that Kostin is as good offensively as Gushchin with the data available. Even an appeal to authority won't work without corroborating evidence.

Why should I? I don't care which one plays and I'm baffled that it seems to matter so much to you. I trust coaches and management to make the right call.

LadyStanley · 2024-10-12T20:20:28-0400

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hotcabbagesoup · 2024-10-12T20:25:13-0400

When the ice be frostin'
This conversation is kostin
brain cells, brain cells, my brain cells down to one.
Yo someone make it go vamoose
Because I'm ready to let my Goose loose

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