GDT: Game 2: Red Wings vs preds 7:00 pm et 10/12/24

[jkutswings]

I get wanting Kasper, up. I do, I want him up too... but I dislike hearing this... ONLY because Kaspers not coming in and going to fill Fischers role on this type. I don't even want him too. I dont want to see it over injury but Kasper needs to come in and take Compher/Copps job/role.

Kasper deserves a shot with the middle six forward group. No reason to call him up and play him with 4th liners or even 4th line minutes. He'll develop better in the AHL with higher minutes, bigger role vs playing up here with no minutes and just practice.

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[The Zetterberg Era]

In losing Fischer you do lose one of your better PK guys. I know Watson can do it, but not at the level honestly of any of the three callup kids. That has to be a factor here when looking at this. I would actually allow Kasper to break in on the matchup grind down low keep things simple line. Eventually there will be a game situation where you can try him between Tank and Kane.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Obviously better than game one...

 

[Steve91]

I'm enjoying not having to endure four David Perron hooking penalties in every game

 

[lilidk]

b real interesting to see who slots in of fischer injured

Between Watson and Kasper, probably first

 

[lilidk]

They won but I didn't think they would have without Talbot. Red Wings didn't have a ton of shots, 2nd goal was a little whacky.

Something like 26 scoring chances last night? 40 plus shots.

I'm not sure that's the defensive style game they were looking for even if it produced a shut out. lol. I'll take it.

I'M TAKING IT! Red Wings have a tough schedule early, I'll be happy if they come out plus .500 for the month. To the RANGERS!



I get wanting Kasper, up. I do, I want him up too... but I dislike hearing this... ONLY because Kaspers not coming in and going to fill Fischers role on this type. I don't even want him too. I dont want to see it over injury but Kasper needs to come in and take Compher/Copps job/role.

Kasper deserves a shot with the middle six forward group. No reason to call him up and play him with 4th liners or even 4th line minutes. He'll develop better in the AHL with higher minutes, bigger role vs playing up here with no minutes and just practice.

He will develop more playing with Larkin

 

[Euro Twins]

People love to complain about Lalonde but honestly scratching Gustafsson after that god awful game 1 was absolutely the right move and he should get some respect for that.

Oh please. People are going to complain no matter what Lalonde does. If he didn't scratch Gus, it would be oh Lalonde is useless and doesn't change things up. If he does, it's why would they scratch ghosts replacement in game 2. You won't win.

 

[DoMakc]

To put this into context - out of 40 shots 17 are from D. For comparison sake Detroit's D had 3. I thought Red Wings played wery well defensively, maybe with exception of some Holl mistakes - Nashville didn't have a lot of quality chances. Maybe Nashville expected Husso to start and thought just throwing at the net will be enough.

 

[Snuggs]

To put this into context - out of 40 shots 17 are from D. For comparison sake Detroit's D had 3. I thought Red Wings played wery well defensively, maybe with exception of some Holl mistakes - Nashville didn't have a lot of quality chances. Maybe Nashville expected Husso to start and thought just throwing at the net will be enough.

Depends how Rosey the glasses are you're wearing.

Hard to watch and say Red Wings were solid defensively imo, but again, depends on the glasses being worn. Nashville's defense almost outshot the Red Wings team. One player on Nashville who was a defenseman had 9 shots. Talbot made big saves to keep that game.

Is it weird I thought Holl looked better than Gustavsson?

I think this team needs a boost, trading for Rasmus Andersson in Calgary might be the best in-season move available that'll make this team alot better quick.

 

[KJoe88]

I'm enjoying not having to endure four David Perron hooking penalties in every game

This team misses David Perron.

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

To put this into context - out of 40 shots 17 are from D. For comparison sake Detroit's D had 3. I thought Red Wings played wery well defensively, maybe with exception of some Holl mistakes - Nashville didn't have a lot of quality chances. Maybe Nashville expected Husso to start and thought just throwing at the net will be enough.

Yes, in spite of the shot delta, MoneyPuck had the expected goals for 3.89 - 3.82 in favour of the Peds, I think even through the game itself, Mickey pointed out the wings led in HD scoring chances after 2 periods by his count.

Talbot had a great game, so did Saros, his only GA a borderline high deflection from the slot and a real fluky skate bounce, this game could have easily ended up a 1-0 SO win for either team or 4-0 Ped win as a 3-0 wings win.

Take the W while they can, 0.500 heading into the Ranger's den to start a home and home, if the wings can finish October at 0.500 or above based on QoC , they will be off to a good start to me.

 

[dalem177]

Watched a few of the highlights, looked good to me. Goalie goalied well, the forwards got some ugly greasy goals like we want them to, didn't cave at 2-0 and kept the shuttie for Talbot.

 

[14ari13]

Husso had a strong game until he let in one. It was not his fault. However he melted down and allowed one semi soft and one soft goal after that.
Talbot had a very strong game all in all.
It is only 2 games so not much to say.
The crowd at the game was great yesterday, a big W for the crowd.
Through the 2 games Berggren has impressed me the most. Nothing spectacular, but he had 2 strong games. Hopefully he and Veleno get it going.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

My sneaky hope is that AJ ends up as Seider's partner. Off-hand Chairot scares me. I like Maatta but I think Ed and AJ make him the odd man out of this group? Gus does feel like a disaster on our own end but he looked really good as a PP QB v. PIT.

someone's going to have to play off-hand unless you want petry back in the lineup

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

yea. any other opinion is lafgkyasmd

haha, forgot i posted this. i don't know what lafgkysmd means. i was pretty drunk last night.

 

[Crunchy]

I'm liking the growth from Rasmussen and Veleno early. They've finally put Ras on a PP unit and he's really been leaning in to the behind the net play. He's looking to create more offense than in years past.

For Veleno, it's keeping the intensity game to game and the points will come. That 4th line has looked good, I think we'll start getting goals from them if they keep em together.

 

[lilidk]

Good defense, great goaltender, nothing else. Game could go easy other way . Predators are better team, but we manage to beat them. Next game we have even better team , hope they give Talbot rest and le Lyon in

 

[newfy]

They should use same defense combo next game.
Most importantly Edvinsson didn't do anything stupid and he was great, simplify your game kid.

I didn't think he simplified his game at all. He had the puck at the offensive blue line a bunch of times where he was dancing around defenders and maintaining puck possession. He wasn't just dumping it in and playing defensively

Raymond looks like a different player this year. He got that extra bit of power he needed

In both games I've thought the same thing. He could have 5 goals right now. His pass to Copp last night was a pass a red wing wouldn't have likely made like that since maybe Zetterberg/Datsyuk, except Kane I guess now

In losing Fischer you do lose one of your better PK guys. I know Watson can do it, but not at the level honestly of any of the three callup kids. That has to be a factor here when looking at this. I would actually allow Kasper to break in on the matchup grind down low keep things simple line. Eventually there will be a game situation where you can try him between Tank and Kane.

Yeah I don't see how people are saying you don't wanna Kasper in the role Fischer plays. He would get somewhere around 15 mins and a bit of PK time. He would play with 2 guys who play a pretty simple game so he can just go out and get his feet wet, and also not have to worry about carrying all the defensive weight.

Then like you said, certain situations he can move around in the lineup as well to give a boost/shake things up. Its actually almost a perfect spot for him to break in. I wouldn't want him playing a whole season like that probably, but if he comes up and proves he's better than that spot, he'll stay anyways

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

Yeah I don't see how people are saying you don't wanna Kasper in the role Fischer plays. He would get somewhere around 15 mins and a bit of PK time. He would play with 2 guys who play a pretty simple game so he can just go out and get his feet wet, and also not have to worry about carrying all the defensive weight.

Then like you said, certain situations he can move around in the lineup as well to give a boost/shake things up. Its actually almost a perfect spot for him to break in. I wouldn't want him playing a whole season like that probably, but if he comes up and proves he's better than that spot, he'll stay anyways

Yeah this reluctance by some to have Kasper come up in a bottom six role doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It's like they need the reassurance of a big AHL season rather than Kasper bringing some needed elements to improve the team, but not necessarily being a rookie of the year candidate because he might only get 25-30 points depending on usage. Bottom six players get plenty of ice time for Lalonde and when the team is healthy, enough depth to have a third line able to contribute offensively. Being with the team and available would make it much easier to try him in different situations without having to call him up and thrown into games with little practise time. Figuring out a way to have 13 forwards, Kasper one of them, would give the Wings a lot more flexibility and options for lines too.

 

[Euro Twins]

They won but I didn't think they would have without Talbot. Red Wings didn't have a ton of shots, 2nd goal was a little whacky.

Something like 26 scoring chances last night? 40 plus shots.

I'm not sure that's the defensive style game they were looking for even if it produced a shut out. lol. I'll take it.

I'M TAKING IT! Red Wings have a tough schedule early, I'll be happy if they come out plus .500 for the month. To the RANGERS!



I get wanting Kasper, up. I do, I want him up too... but I dislike hearing this... ONLY because Kaspers not coming in and going to fill Fischers role on this type. I don't even want him too. I dont want to see it over injury but Kasper needs to come in and take Compher/Copps job/role.

Kasper deserves a shot with the middle six forward group. No reason to call him up and play him with 4th liners or even 4th line minutes. He'll develop better in the AHL with higher minutes, bigger role vs playing up here with no minutes and just practice.

Kasper needs to center the third line with copp and berggren. Push everyone else down to the 4th line and give berggren a legit chance to shine on a scoring line. If anything maybe increase his trade value.

Just because Fischer is out doesn't mean we need to replace his role. We have enough plugs on the team. Bring in a kid who's earned his shot in the top 9

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

I didn't think he simplified his game at all. He had the puck at the offensive blue line a bunch of times where he was dancing around defenders and maintaining puck possession. He wasn't just dumping it in and playing defensively


In both games I've thought the same thing. He could have 5 goals right now. His pass to Copp last night was a pass a red wing wouldn't have likely made like that since maybe Zetterberg/Datsyuk, except Kane I guess now

Yeah I don't see how people are saying you don't wanna Kasper in the role Fischer plays. He would get somewhere around 15 mins and a bit of PK time. He would play with 2 guys who play a pretty simple game so he can just go out and get his feet wet, and also not have to worry about carrying all the defensive weight.

Then like you said, certain situations he can move around in the lineup as well to give a boost/shake things up. Its actually almost a perfect spot for him to break in. I wouldn't want him playing a whole season like that probably, but if he comes up and proves he's better than that spot, he'll stay anyways

I agree, if Fish is out for a lengthy spell, bring in Kasper, break him in a bit on PK, especially if giving Ray some PK time too, shuffle line around to suit, but I could see Marco on any line on any given night.

 

[Euro Twins]

haha, forgot i posted this. i don't know what lafgkysmd means. i was pretty drunk last night.

I just assumed it meant; let a fat guy know you suck my dick

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

Kasper needs to center the third line with copp and berggren. Push everyone else down to the 4th line and give berggren a legit chance to shine on a scoring line. If anything maybe increase his trade value.

Just because Fischer is out doesn't mean we need to replace his role. We have enough plugs on the team. Bring in a kid who's earned his shot in the top 9

I would love to see a 4-5 game trial of Berggren, Kasper and Raymond, Berggren has shown chemistry in the past with Raymond (Team Sweden) and last year with Kasper, even if it meant moving Raymond to a 3rd line for a few games...if the line works out, the wings could be in a position to truly roll 4 lines each game.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

I just assumed it meant; let a fat guy know you suck my dick

i was at the bar last night talking to a girl with ENORMOUS juggs. i think lafgkyasmd was her bra size

things were going great until i asked if i could touch one. maybe lafgkyasmd was the sound i made when she slapped me in the face