PGT: Game 19: Canada 1 - Russia 2

[TeddyBare]

Bouchard is a joke and always will be. Never should have been a 1st round pick.

wow wow wow

Lets not be hasty
He is still a great prospect, and everyone knew he was garbage defensively before the draft, so this shouldn't be a surprise.
Let's chalk this up to simply a really embarrassing play

But he is still a really good prospect

 

[snipes]

4 junior games have shown he can’t produce against teams that aren’t bottom feeder OHL teams. He was like a 26 year old man against 15 year olds. One of the worst scouting mistakes of the decade.

Scorching take.

How many years have you been watching the world juniors? Genuine question, drawing conclusions like that from a short tournament like this is silly.

 

[Fred McCarthy]

I feel good about going forward from this game , we didn't get to many breaks tonight .. there goalie got them all .

 

[Mick Riddleton]

IIHF stats are for ice time of the bottom 3 guys. VELENO - 6:58, LAFRENIERE - 7:18 and STUDNICKA - 8:40

 

[trilobyte]

Did Canada's goal differential help them afterall?!

They should have never f**ing run up tbe score like that against Denmark.

What an embarrassment!!!!

Connection between the Denmark game and this one?
Oh, I see, if they'd stopped at 13 against Denmark they would have had that spare goal available tonight

 

[PWJunior]

wow wow wow

Lets not be hasty
He is still a great prospect, and everyone knew he was garbage defensively before the draft, so this shouldn't be a surprise.
Let's chalk this up to simply a really embarrassing play

But he is still a really good prospect

If he wants to be more than Shattenkirk 2.0, he better improve his defensive game significantly. Right now he should be a PP specialist and bottom pairing because he is a liability in his own zone.

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

As an Oilers fan, I'll say Bouchard was terrible, but Mitchell and Dobson were worse, imo.

 

[Bourdon]

Scorching take.

How many years have you been watching the world juniors? Genuine question, drawing conclusions like that from a short tournament like this is silly.

He's not a bust by any means, but he does seem overrated based on how Oilers fans were talking him up...how he wasn't available for almost anything. cost controlled, etc.

His upside is ultimately a 2nd pairing, sheltered defenseman that logs a ton of PP time. His skating issues and lackadaisical defensive efforts prevent him from much more. If a Shattenkirk type is an untouchable, then that's a problem.

 

[Kshahdoo]

If he wants to be more than Shattenkirk 2.0, he better improve his defensive game significantly. Right now he should be a PP specialist and bottom pairing because he is a liability in his own zone.

Lol, I bet he would be happy to become Shattenkirk 2.0. Because Shatty is a good NHLer.

 

[Peiskos]

Canada will bounce back in the QF. Watch. Happy New Years all!

 

[ottomaddox]

Canada has disgraced...Canada for the last time!

 

[PWJunior]

Lol, I bet he would be happy to become Shattenkirk 2.0. Because Shatty is a good NHLer.

Very true, but Shattenkirk 2.0 is far from this potential top pairing stud that Bouchard's boosters keep parroting. As good as he may be offensively, he's just as bad defensively.

 

[branch]

Scorching take.

How many years have you been watching the world juniors? Genuine question, drawing conclusions like that from a short tournament like this is silly.

I’ve watched him all through his year in the OHL last year and was praying my team wouldn’t take him in the draft. He won’t be in the NHL in 3 years, remind me.

 

[HanSolo]

He just does not get his teammates involved, from what I've seen.

Idk man. I can think of 5 different times Glass teed it up for him perfectly and he'd whiff on it cause he wasn't ready. They're plenty involved.

 

[HanSolo]

And yet he gets prasied by the coach as one of the better forwards so far.

Good for him. I'm not seeing it.

 

[pbgoalie]

Hunter doesn't appear to be a very good coach. I'll take it back if he gets Canada organized for when the games matter, but they do look quite sloppy

Sweden looks pretty organized
US, Canada even Russia are pretty scattered at times

You’d think it was kids playing or something!
I think the rest of the tourney will be chaos, in a fun way

 

[My3Sons]

Do the hyperbolic posters realize that their vitriolic character assasinations of the defensive scape goat not drafted by the NHL team they cheer for won’t make it to the coaches and won’t change reality and just makes them look insecure?

These are teenagers. Most haven’t played with their teammates in this sort of pressure packed environment. They will make mistakes. This tourney isn’t a referendum on any one player’s NHL future. I don’t root for EDM but the ugly posts about Bouchard are embarrassing. Same for some posts about Comtois and a few of the other defenders. Someday these posters will grow up and they won’t be proud of what they’ve written.

 

[Btown]

Finally got a small taste of competition and didn’t end in Canada’s favour.
Regroup, learn from mistakes and make adjustments.

Then Win Gold

 

[lilidk]

IIHF stats are for ice time of the bottom 3 guys. VELENO - 6:58, - 7:18 and STUDNICKA - 8:40

As Red wings fan I like to see Veleno not on the 4th line playing less than 7 minutes, better he stays in juniors

 

[A1LeafNation]

Scott should be starting from here on in..

 

[trilobyte]

Canada has disgraced...Canada for the last time!

Are you serious?
Are you sure that Canada cannot be disgraced again in future?
I love your hyperbole. It is truly entertaining!!!

 

[irunthepeg]

Scott should be starting from here on in..

DiPietro was not the problem at all...

 

[trilobyte]

Lol, I bet he would be happy to become Shattenkirk 2.0. Because Shatty is a good NHLer.

The Shattenkirk I have been watching since latter half of last season up until his injury this season (returned tonight) is a big fat letdown.

 

[Llamamoto]

Bouchard is a joke and always will be. Never should have been a 1st round pick.

Holy hot take.

Bouchard also saved a goal. He did make a couple costly defensive errors, but he totally should have been a first round pick. As the Oilers, there is nobody else I would have taken instead of him.

And the team is not feeding him well on the point.
BTW, did you see how many good zone entries Bouchard made? Or how many times he held the point where most other defensemen couldn't?
Honestly, lay off the 19 year old kid.

 

[trilobyte]

Bouchard is a good prospect. The only thing that I was hoping for was him being a better threat offensively.
It still comes down to this team being a short-lived collection of players.
Look at Quinn Hughes on USA. Tons of talent, yet he made a bunch of gaffes too.
This tournament is just a step in the journey for these guys. Professional scouts take notes but they don't get bent out of shape about things not clicking that would be in a stable environment.