GDT: Game 17 - New York Rangers vs Arizona Coyotes - 7pm EST, MSG

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That's big

Who said we're the 8 seed?

It's f***ing November.
You literally asked how many had won it and then countered by asking how many 1 seeds had one. You don't even know what you're posting.

And yes it's November, it's been almost 2 months of this and every standard for the league says in 10 days if you aren't in a playoff spot by thanksgiving good luck. The way they are playing they will be chasing it all year AND they have generally been healthy to this point with all their major players.

But ignorance is bliss
 
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Well he sucked defensively when we signed him so we should have known that
Yes but when we traded for him we were expecting a first pair defender who we would deploy on PP1 and thus be worth $8m which is mid tier first pair defender money plus a premium for power play stat boosts.

Instead we have a second pair negative defender who occasionally delivers big hits and is above average offensively.

I am not saying we never should have traded for and signed him, I’m saying circumstances changed and he should be getting pressured to be moved.

But the administration has an unhealthy fixation on Americans, grit, size, etc, and has unjustly rewarded him with the captaincy, so we are stuck.

But I don’t have to like it!
 
Good penalty to take. These are the penalties the Rangers should take. Stick up for your teammates at all cost
 
I don’t even accept that he sucks defensively. Trade him.
In all seriousness who is taking on his minutes? And if you can find someone cheaper and as good then whoever would trade for trouba would trade for the cheaper option instead
 
Yes but when we traded for him we were expecting a first pair defender who we would deploy on PP1 and thus be worth $8m which is mid tier first pair defender money plus a premium for power play stat boosts.

Instead we have a second pair negative defender who occasionally delivers big hits and is above average offensively.

I am not saying we never should have traded for and signed him, I’m saying circumstances changed and he should be getting pressured to be moved.

But the administration has an unhealthy fixation on Americans, grit, size, etc, and has unjustly rewarded him with the captaincy, so we are stuck.

But I don’t have to like it!
They didn't really change.

He was always an offense-only play driver at even strength who sucks on the powerplay somehow and hits a lot.

He's DeAngelo if DeAngelo were taller and....let's just leave it at "taller."
 
A new coach won't magically make the team faster on their skates or make them think quicker. If a Trotz or whatever comes in and tries to make them play a "simpler" game the personnel we have just won't do ANYTHING AT ALL then. This is not the group that could have success that way. You can't have a Trotz type with these players.

Do another rebuild then.

Agree. Sell excess pieces and keep drafting high end forwards with speed and skill early.
 
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