GDT: GAME 16 | Philly Flies into O-town | Thu Nov 14 2024, 7PM | TSN5, RDS2

[Micklebot]

Ullmark lost us that one, should have been 4-2 for Ottawa but Linus shat the bed

Honestly, I think the only really bad goal in regulation was the first one, a breakaway, a two on one rebound goal, and a one timer from a pass that started on the far side and was touch passed to the goal scorer from the slot, those are all scoring chances, sure you'd like him to make a big save on one or two of them, but they weren't bad goals per say.

Game probably should have been a 4-3 win, or a 5-4 win in OT/SO and I would have been ok with it. That OT goal though, that can't get through you like that when you're in position, same goes for the 1st goal,

 

[The Waffler]

He was .957 vs Tampa in his previous start...so he was "Coming in Hot" as they say

Well, honestly I’m not sure where I got .750 from. I may have exaggerated, which is obviously not something I’m known for.

Come on now, we scored 4 on him, he had an .892 sv% on the game, he looked like a competent goalie, nothing more, nothing less.

I will not come on now, he looked pretty good despite the numbers. All 4 goals were grade A chances that even the best goalies would have a hard time saving.

 

[Micklebot]

Well, honestly I’m not sure where I got .750 from. I may have exaggerated, which is obviously not something I’m known for.



I will not come on now, he looked pretty good despite the numbers. All 4 goals were grade A chances that even the best goalies would have a hard time saving.

Sure, the goals we scored were not ones I expect him to save, but he also wasn't robing us looking like Shesterkin, which was your claim. Shesterkin steals goals that you'd think were sure things. We did not make him look like that, we scored on those chances.

 

[The Waffler]

Sure, the goals we scored were not ones I expect him to save, but he also wasn't robing us looking like Shesterkin, which was your claim. Shesterkin steals goals that you'd think were sure things. We did not make him look like that, we scored on those chances.

No no, the point I think I was making originally was that the Ottawa guys weren’t making his life or the Philly D-men’s lives hard, and therefore made him look better than he was. With a touch of hyperbole for the rizz.

They definitely beat him clean on the goals with great looks, but he made like 30 something other saves. He was good, and made some really good saves in OT. They should have had more on him early in the game with all the O-zone momentum they generated.

Beyond that, the point I was making was that the loss is on the skaters almost as much as it’s on the goalie.

 

[lang006]

Torts quotes are the best. Get so cranky and annoyed when the questions are asked. Reporter: "what is it you're seeing about Fedotov as he is settling in to the net here?"... Torts: "He is stopping the puck"

 

[Xspyrit]

I think Ullmark has some leeway and is getting the « benefit of the doubt » because of what he did in Boston but any other goalie would have been crucified by this fanbase. As crazy as it sounds, here’s how I rank our goalies since Craig Anderson :

1- Anders Nilsson
2- Anton Forsberg
3- Matt Murray
Etc

I really want to see Ullmark climb his way to the top. It’s crucial that he does; particularly with the contract we just gave him; and that’s without considering the acquisition cost. It’s basically all we have left from a 7th OA pick and a second.

Sure, the goals we scored were not ones I expect him to save, but he also wasn't robing us looking like Shesterkin, which was your claim. Shesterkin steals goals that you'd think were sure things. We did not make him look like that, we scored on those chances.

To be fair, he made some very tough saves. I think one on Stutzle and one on Norris. The toughest saves are not necessarily the flashiest ones, but it’s the sneaky good shots that you have to save with your shoulder or the shaft of your stick… or deflections through traffic, point blank one timers, or when the shooter has way too much time and space

 

[Dionysus]

No no, the point I think I was making originally was that the Ottawa guys weren’t making his life or the Philly D-men’s lives hard, and therefore made him look better than he was. With a touch of hyperbole for the rizz.

They definitely beat him clean on the goals with great looks, but he made like 30 something other saves. He was good, and made some really good saves in OT. They should have had more on him early in the game with all the O-zone momentum they generated.

Beyond that, the point I was making was that the loss is on the skaters almost as much as it’s on the goalie.

Guys were definitely spinning away from the front of the net looking for a tip or rebound rather than getting right in front for a screen.

 

[Micklebot]

No no, the point I think I was making originally was that the Ottawa guys weren’t making his life or the Philly D-men’s lives hard, and therefore made him look better than he was. With a touch of hyperbole for the rizz.

They definitely beat him clean on the goals with great looks, but he made like 30 something other saves. He was good, and made some really good saves in OT. They should have had more on him early in the game with all the O-zone momentum they generated.

Beyond that, the point I was making was that the loss is on the skaters almost as much as it’s on the goalie.

So we made him look good by only beating him with the good shots, gotcha...

 

[The Waffler]

So we made him look good by only beating him with the good shots, gotcha...

I feel like I’m not articulating this as well as I should be. He made the saves he needed to, got beat by some ten-bell chances. Until late in the game, where he just shut the door on both Norris and Pinto, who both had Grade-A looks.

But my original post was meant to highlight the defensive play when up 2. Just some poor tracking on both the Richard and Brink goals. Can’t have that.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Looks like the Canes will be forced to start their third string goalie, so we're in for another fun night of making some nobody look like a superhero.

No Seth Jarvis too.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Coming into the game Fedotov had a .851 SV% through 4 games, but of course he puts up an excellent performance against us.

Not sure if it's just bad luck or the Sens are uniquely bad at finishing on scoring chances.

Annoying either way.

 

[BankStreetParade]

My big concern with wasting away so many points in winnable games is that this level of play won't keep up. They've won 2 of their last 3 but had lost 3 of 4 before that. Are they just having a great stretch of games over the last few? Or is this an aberration to their real level of play and we'll see them regress a bit? It's so hard to figure out who these guys are, except a team that seems to find ways to give away points in games they shouldn't be.

 

[bicboi64]

Coming into the game Fedotov had a .851 SV% through 4 games, but of course he puts up an excellent performance against us.

Not sure if it's just bad luck or the Sens are uniquely bad at finishing on scoring chances.

Annoying either way.

Fedotov was .892 last night. 4 goals should be enough to win the game, especially if we only limit the opposition to only 20 shots

He was marginally better than what he's been his last 4 games. I'd say he was average at best, but our goalie has to be able to put up a better save percentage than .892 every night, let alone the awful .737 Ullmark put up.

 

[swiftwin]

My big concern with wasting away so many points in winnable games is that this level of play won't keep up. They've won 2 of their last 3 but had lost 3 of 4 before that. Are they just having a great stretch of games over the last few? Or is this an aberration to their real level of play and we'll see them regress a bit? It's so hard to figure out who these guys are, except a team that seems to find ways to give away points in games they shouldn't be.

It hasn't just been the last 2-3 games. We have the 2nd best expected goal differential

It's also not like we've had an easy schedule. We've had the 12th most difficult schedule so far:

NHL Strength of Schedule Rankings

Strength of Schedule Played and Strength of Schedule Remaining for all 31 NHL teams.

powerrankingsguru.com

 

[Emrasie]

Coming into the game Fedotov had a .851 SV% through 4 games, but of course he puts up an excellent performance against us.

Not sure if it's just bad luck or the Sens are uniquely bad at finishing on scoring chances.

Annoying either way.

Every goalie seems to have his best night against us so i will take the bad at finishing.

 

[BankStreetParade]

It hasn't just been the last 2-3 games. We have the 2nd best expected goal differential

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It's also not like we've had an easy schedule. We've had the 12th most difficult schedule so far:

NHL Strength of Schedule Rankings

Strength of Schedule Played and Strength of Schedule Remaining for all 31 NHL teams.

powerrankingsguru.com

What about the actual goal differential?

 

[Back in Black]

5 outta 6 points. I'll take it!

 

[Micklebot]

What about the actual goal differential?

11th in the league at +6 right now, so pretty solid despite Ullmark's struggles.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I was having a good night out and then I remembered this game and was fuming again.

Need him to finish the season .915 with over 50 starts for me to forgive this.

 

[DrEasy]

Fedotov was .892 last night. 4 goals should be enough to win the game, especially if we only limit the opposition to only 20 shots

He was marginally better than what he's been his last 4 games. I'd say he was average at best, but our goalie has to be able to put up a better save percentage than .892 every night, let alone the awful .737 Ullmark put up.

I'm going to call him 737 Max, him and his open door policy.

 

[Sensrule]

Obviously a missed opportunity to get the full 2 points. You can expect other teams in our division like the Leafs and Bruins are going to sort their game out as the season moves along and go on long winning streaks. This win 2 lose 1 patterns aren't going to cut it.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

In a bizarre way, the team almost played TOO well for long stretches which left Ullmark with so few shots on net that he probably had trouble focusing and getting into a groove. There were lonnnnnng stretches where he simply watched from 200' away. Philly didn't generate many chances, so when they did, Ullmark was a bit cold. He needs to be better but I can see how the flow of that game wasn't optimal for a goalie.

Exactly why Martin Brodeur was a unicorn. Dude could sit there and chill for half the game, but be on in an instant to make the saves when needed.

 

[BankStreetParade]

11th in the league at +6 right now, so pretty solid despite Ullmark's struggles.

GF 5v5 31
GF 4v4 2
GF 3v3 2
GA 5v5 34
GA 4v4 0
GA 3v3 1

So it's 35 vs 35. I don't see how the even strength numbers are adding up to +6.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Coming into the game Fedotov had a .851 SV% through 4 games, but of course he puts up an excellent performance against us.

Not sure if it's just bad luck or the Sens are uniquely bad at finishing on scoring chances.

Annoying either way.

Ottawa had 4 goals, I don't see how that's bad at finishing. Fedotov made some great saves, but that's the nature of teams with high positive shot differential like Ottawa has been this year. Almost every goalie is going to play better when they face a high number of shots vs a low amount of shots.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Honestly, I think the only really bad goal in regulation was the first one, a breakaway, a two on one rebound goal, and a one timer from a pass that started on the far side and was touch passed to the goal scorer from the slot, those are all scoring chances, sure you'd like him to make a big save on one or two of them, but they weren't bad goals per say.

Game probably should have been a 4-3 win, or a 5-4 win in OT/SO and I would have been ok with it. That OT goal though, that can't get through you like that when you're in position, same goes for the 1st goal,

Not every shot that is “difficult” should end up in the back of your net. If that’s the case then the game reaaallyy should have been 10-3 or something. Goalies are expected to save some if not most of the difficult shots they face. Your score predictions are based on Ullmark not being able to save anything difficult while Fedotov saves most of his difficult chances.

That 3rd goal was atrocious.

Coming into the game Fedotov had a .851 SV% through 4 games, but of course he puts up an excellent performance against us.

Not sure if it's just bad luck or the Sens are uniquely bad at finishing on scoring chances.

Annoying either way.

Was it that great? He had a sub 900 save percentage. We scored 4. That’s an easy 4-1 game and NOBODY is talking about Fedotov.

5-4 now fedotov is a story.