GDT: GAME 16 | Philly Flies into O-town | Thu Nov 14 2024, 7PM | TSN5, RDS2

[SpezDispenser]

Well we lost the game. Think of it this way.

If we shat the bed and got badly outshot, but our goalie played amazing and we lost 2-1, it would be the same idea, but I bet you think of it vastly different.

Because it would be vastly different.

The only issue right now is our Vezina winning goalie having a rough start - where his resume says this is an outlier. The team itself is doing what we've wanted them to do for years - play well and consistently.

 

[jbeck5]

Because it would be vastly different.

The only issue right now is our Vezina winning goalie having a rough start - where his resume says this is an outlier. The team itself is doing what we've wanted them to do for years - play well and consistently.

I also want them to play clutch.

Would have been nice to see them not allow shots when they were up 4-2 instead of giving up multiple 2 on 1s when up late in the third.


And then our goalie can't make a save.

It's a recipe for a disappointing ending.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I also want them to play clutch.

Would have been nice to see them not allow shots when they were up 4-2 instead of giving up multiple 2 on 1s when up late in the third.


And then our goalie can't make a save.

It's a recipe for a disappointing ending.

Yes, the breakaway to end the second was a huge mistake, as was the clusterf*** that was the 2 minutes that cost us the win in regulation.

This is where I preach patience with Ullmark, because *usually* he has 2 of the 3 of those imo. And no team is ever going to play perfectly

 

[Dionysus]

I also want them to play clutch.

Would have been nice to see them not allow shots when they were up 4-2 instead of giving up multiple 2 on 1s when up late in the third.


And then our goalie can't make a save.

It's a recipe for a disappointing ending.

Not capitalizing on tons of chances in the 1st and 2nd was rough. Put themselves in a tight game when they should have been ahead.

Set themselves up for the potential of blowing a game, and then did it with some poorly timed pinches without a forward covering. Needed a save from Ullmark, didn't get one. Very tough loss. Keep the pressure on teams going forward. Playing well!

 

[SpezDispenser]

Not capitalizing on tons of chances in the 1st and 2nd was rough. Put themselves in a tight game when they should have been ahead.

Set themselves up for the potential of blowing a game, and then did it with some poorly timed pinches without a forward covering. Needed a save from Ullmark, didn't get one. Very tough loss. Keep the pressure on teams going forward. Playing well!

Conversely, not scoring on Philly was because their goalie channeled his inner Hasek that game. Had he not...and I agree, we need to bury chances, it's like 5 to 1 in the second and we don't have the consternation of Ullmark not playing well

 

[Micklebot]

Conversely, not scoring on Philly was because their goalie channeled his inner Hasek that game. Had he not...and I agree, we need to bury chances, it's like 5 to 1 in the second and we don't have the consternation of Ullmark not playing well

I mean, we scored 4. Not like we didn't have goal support. The team played fine, Ullmark had a stinker. Shit happens, but there was a lot to like about the game.

The only thing that disappointed me outside of goaltending was a bit of game management issues, we had a lead with 7 mins to go and Kleven is pinching halfway down the wall. He needed to play that less aggressively and make the safe play in that situation.

 

[BigRig4]

Im still sick about this one lol

 

[Loach]

Im still sick about this one lol

It's a good sick though. We got a stinker from Linus. Usually we break down half the plays and argue about if it was the forwards, defence, coach, goalie or the roster constructions fault. The guys learn from it and roll it out again. Then do it again. And again. Mistakes get fewer. Saves happen. They will win more than they lose. I'm still disappointed mind you. It never should have went to OT.

 

[UglyPuckling]

Not capitalizing on tons of chances in the 1st and 2nd was rough. Put themselves in a tight game when they should have been ahead.

Set themselves up for the potential of blowing a game, and then did it with some poorly timed pinches without a forward covering. Needed a save from Ullmark, didn't get one. Very tough loss. Keep the pressure on teams going forward. Playing well!

Ya, we had a lot of opportunities to create a bigger lead, but could not.

People will focus the 4 goals that we got, but it's about taking advantage and being opportunistic at certain points or situations in a game that often separates the best teams from the average (or poor) ones. That’s going to get buried by those that are hyper focused on stats as way of trying to explain everything. I had a feeling that this was going to be a trap game when we didn’t score and stretch our lead when we had all of those opportunities.

We definitely needed some more saves from our goaltender though.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Man. We have played 180 great minutes of hockey. Ullmark played one really bad period and it cost us a point but he was solid in 3-2 win over Boston and he shutout the Leafs.

The third and OT sucked for our goalie but people need to step away from the ledge.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I also want them to play clutch.

Would have been nice to see them not allow shots when they were up 4-2 instead of giving up multiple 2 on 1s when up late in the third.


And then our goalie can't make a save.

It's a recipe for a disappointing ending.

The 0 shots in 24 minutes to Boston won’t happen again. Don’t think it will. Teams do not normally hold other teams to 0 shots

It was 1 two on one.

Man. We have played 180 greta minutes of hockey. Ullmark played one really bad period and it cost us a point but he was solid in 3-2 win over Boston and he shutout the Leafs.

The third and OT sucked for our goalie but people need to step away from the ledge.

Ullmark had more than 1 bad period

I mean, we scored 4. Not like we didn't have goal support. The team played fine, Ullmark had a stinker. Shit happens, but there was a lot to like about the game.

The only thing that disappointed me outside of goaltending was a bit of game management issues, we had a lead with 7 mins to go and Kleven is pinching halfway down the wall. He needed to play that less aggressively and make the safe play in that situation.

Sure. Not the right play. But that’s why we went out a got a “elite” goalie and paid him huge money. So we can be comfortable making those plays knowing he will be back there

Every team is giving those up. Philly have Norris a breakaway with 15 seconds left on the clock in a 4-4 game

 

[Micklebot]

Sure. Not the right play. But that’s why we went out a got a “elite” goalie and paid him huge money. So we can be comfortable making those plays knowing he will be back there

Every team is giving those up. Philly have Norris a breakaway with 15 seconds left on the clock in a 4-4 game

For sure, it's a mistake and mistakes happen. Ullmark needed to make another save that game, doesn't really matter which one.

For Kleven, it's a teachable moment. That's all I'm looking for, that he learns from it, and we move forward.

 

[ChurchOfAlfie]

One thing I do love about this game is Green seeing things clearly. Mentioned poor goaltending, poor game management and a bad pinch by Kleven in his post game interview, without throwing players under the bus and embarrassing them.

DJ would have just talked about bad bounces without using this as a learning opportunity for Kleven.

 

[Dionysus]

One thing I do love about this game is Green seeing things clearly. Mentioned poor goaltending, poor game management and a bad pinch by Kleven in his post game interview, without throwing players under the bus and embarrassing them.

DJ would have just talked about bad bounces without using this as a learning opportunity for Kleven.

Agreed. He was fair and honest in his assessment. And generally has been this season.

 

[Micklebot]

One thing I do love about this game is Green seeing things clearly. Mentioned poor goaltending, poor game management and a bad pinch by Kleven in his post game interview, without throwing players under the bus and embarrassing them.

DJ would have just talked about bad bounces without using this as a learning opportunity for Kleven.

To be fair., I'm sure DJ recognized that Korpisalo was terrible, there's just no benefit it saying it to the media. With Green, he at least has a fall back option if Ullmark is struggling, he can play Forsberg who's having a decent start.

 

[SpezDispenser]

For sure, it's a mistake and mistakes happen. Ullmark needed to make another save that game, doesn't really matter which one.

For Kleven, it's a teachable moment. That's all I'm looking for, that he learns from it, and we move forward.

I agree. I can nitpik, but basically the team played another excellent game in front of a goalie who had a bad night.

I've made sure to say that several times in this thread, because I feel earlier iterations of this team would have folded when they scored late in the 2nd

 

[slamigo]

In a bizarre way, the team almost played TOO well for long stretches which left Ullmark with so few shots on net that he probably had trouble focusing and getting into a groove. There were lonnnnnng stretches where he simply watched from 200' away. Philly didn't generate many chances, so when they did, Ullmark was a bit cold. He needs to be better but I can see how the flow of that game wasn't optimal for a goalie.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

on the game
F*** Ullmark for not showing up... It happens .. Sens fans don't need any of it. .. maybe 3 in a row is too much right now. 1st goal , 3rd goal, 4th goal, 5th goal all in the words of Ben Affleck "Suspect"
The team played another very solid game .. and dominated their opponent. Even though I thought a half step off what we saw in Boston and Toronto
Josh Norris is back. He was really good tonight.. Bodes well going forward
We gave up very little again. 3rd lowest XGA in the league 5v5 (NST); 2nd lowest XGA/60 .. . What about goals for you ask .. we are 6th in XGF/60

the high pressure attack and support and the team D is a winning strategy. It takes a lot of effort every shift but for now the team is embracing it and are seeing the results / feeling it as they play the game. Hats off to Greene and the coaching staff for a chunk of this.

 

[Nova Stutzlia]

Can we distinguish between loss and overtime loss, please?

 

[The Waffler]

Ullmark aside, they held them to 7 shots over the first half of the game. Up 2 in the 3rd, Philly makes a push and starts getting number advantages in the O-Zone, gets a softie. Up 1, there’s odd man rushes happening with 7 minutes left. That can’t happen.

Torts mentioned before the game they want to generate offence off the rush, that’s where they succeed. That’s what they did, the other 5 guys on the ice need to be held accountable for this loss as well.

Also, that other goalie had a .750 SV% on the season, or something, they made him look like Shesterkin.

 

[Micklebot]

Also, that other goalie had a .750 SV% on the season, or something, they made him look like Shesterkin.

Come on now, we scored 4 on him, he had an .892 sv% on the game, he looked like a competent goalie, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Senscore]

Looks like the Canes will be forced to start their third string goalie, so we're in for another fun night of making some nobody look like a superhero.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Come on now, we scored 4 on him, he had an .892 sv% on the game, he looked like a competent goalie, nothing more, nothing less.

He was .957 vs Tampa in his previous start...so he was "Coming in Hot" as they say

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Ullmark aside, they held them to 7 shots over the first half of the game. Up 2 in the 3rd, Philly makes a push and starts getting number advantages in the O-Zone, gets a softie. Up 1, there’s odd man rushes happening with 7 minutes left. That can’t happen.

Torts mentioned before the game they want to generate offence off the rush, that’s where they succeed. That’s what they did, the other 5 guys on the ice need to be held accountable for this loss as well.

Also, that other goalie had a .750 SV% on the season, or something, they made him look like Shesterkin.

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[bicboi64]

Ullmark lost us that one, should have been 4-2 for Ottawa but Linus shat the bed