GDT: Game 12: Red Wings at hawks 8:00 pm et 11/6/24

[Lampedampe]

Johansson is listed as 6'0 and 168 lbs??

Hit the gym my boy. do whatever Raymond did.

Where is he listed at 168lbs

Eliteprospects has him at 185lbs

 

[KJoe88]

If we win the next two I’ll start to believe again

 

[Gniwder]

Where is he listed at 168lbs

Eliteprospects has him at 185lbs

The Red Wings page has him listed at 168, AHL has him listed at 185.

185 is still light for a defenseman who doesn't score. For comparison, Stecher is listed at 184 and Ghost at 183.

If we win the next two I’ll start to believe again

Pornstache is listed as day to day.

 

[ColdToiletSeats]

Trade Copp for a injured McDavid?

 

[Gniwder]

Edvinsson is genuinely incredible and I think he’s gonna be even better than seider. That pairing is insanely good

It's a shame he didn't get an assist on Larkin's goal for stepping up on Bert. Puck missed Ed's stick and Larkin got teh steal.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Den defended.

 

[wingerdinger]

Edvinsson is genuinely incredible and I think he’s gonna be even better than seider. That pairing is insanely good

Chiarot and Petry are the pairing from hell

Overall good game. Would like to see more from Kasper, or send him down to build more offense. I was the biggest proponent of having him on the team; I’d give him 10-15 more games to try and get his offense going but after that if he’s still doing his best zadina impression out there I’d send him down

So much of this teams problem begins with us having by far the worse second pairing in hockey. It's not are only problem, but it'll go such a long way when we finally get a competent 2nd pairing.

 

[WingFanSD]

berg- be gone with you. adds nothing and does nothing
kasper- needs to find the offense. maybe put him with raymond and compher, drop copp to 3rd/4th line
tank- has he done anything???
ajo-he needs to play more. he is our #3 dman right now.
petry/char- wtf is this pairing

this team is not going anywhere with what they have right now. no offense after the top line(w/ray on there, not kane).

 

[Lampedampe]

The Red Wings page has him listed at 168, AHL has him listed at 185.

185 is still light for a defenseman who doesn't score. For comparison, Stecher is listed at 184 and Ghost at 183.


Pornstache is listed as day to day.

Johansson does have a history of scoring in Sweden, but never scored much in AHL, it's hard to say what kind of role he'll take on in the NHL. I hope he can turn into a Strålman type of player, in terms of size they're similar but Strålman is listed as 10lbs heavier, if we're going by Johansson being 185lbs.

But you're right, he should add more weight. He doesn't look very strong along the boards, and it doens't really look like he's walking around at 185lbs.

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Jackie Redmond is the only thing helping redeem their entire production

She's good, even though she does look a little too much like Michael Jackson.

 

[Ulysses31]

couple shifts Ed had noticable keanu-like swagger

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1854371102945951972

 

[Ulysses31]

Edvinsson is genuinely incredible and I think he’s gonna be even better than seider. That pairing is insanely good

Chiarot and Petry are the pairing from hell

Overall good game. Would like to see more from Kasper, or send him down to build more offense. I was the biggest proponent of having him on the team; I’d give him 10-15 more games to try and get his offense going but after that if he’s still doing his best zadina impression out there I’d send him down

agree about ed. looks like a world beater.

not so sure about sending kasper down tho. i think pairing with berggren and giving with solid minutes also a good path from his developement and see if they can figure it out at an NHL level.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Where is he listed at 168lbs

Eliteprospects has him at 185lbs

NHL.com

Sadly I do not have much faith at the NHL's website having the most accurate information on NHL players.

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

We got the least GA in the Atlantic. Let that sink in.^^

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

No. 1 priority for me this season was improving in their own end. Don't care if the offense dries up a bit, chances will come if they clean up their d-zone play and can regularly exit with possession. Tonight for me was a great example of what I want to see. Natural Stat Trick has them giving up only five High Danger chances 5v5, none in the third period. Aside from about a five-minute stretch in the second, they gave Chicago very little. Bedard was erased. Better zone exits too, AlJo is particularly good at reverses which give him better lanes for passing and clearing zone and he's a good influence on Gus who had by far his best game. We saw Chiarot, AlJo, Gus and Edvinsson jump up into plays, Ed constantly hunting for chances back-door. That's where offense can come from with this current set-up of one skill line, three grinding lines. Tough for Raymond, but I'd like to see how this works for a while. There is a much clearer team identitiy with this configuration: "Larkin, score. All you other guys, don't give up anything." Won't work long-term, might get them a WC spot short-term.

.It would be a terrible idea to send Kasper down. He's fitting in really well defensively and has a responsible approach to what he needs to do. He is the glue for that line not giving up much while they try to develop some offensive chemistry. One sequence stands out: Back-checking hard, bodying a guy off the puck in the neutral zone, taking the puck away and immediately moving it to a teammate in stride moving up-ice. He's always coming all the way back, doesn't bobble the puck, makes safe plays that advance possession. Influential on the forecheck, hunting down loose pucks, putting his body in the right places. Stop looking at boxscores to determine if he belongs. He does.

Petry is done.

 

[Gniwder]

agree about ed. looks like a world beater.

not so sure about sending kasper down tho. i think pairing with berggren and giving with solid minutes also a good path from his developement and see if they can figure it out at an NHL level.

Same on Ed.

If Kasper isn't gonna get sent down, then they should have him swap places with Copp. Put him on the wing and tell him to either score or feed Ray. Put him in a situation where he's more likely to succeed, even if it means Ray has to score off Marco's skate or maybe some empty netters. Babysitting two defensively inept players is keeping his mind focused on defense and limiting his aggressiveness on offense and also forechecking. The effort level is there, he deserves that chance before he gets sent down.

We got the least GA in the Atlantic. Let that sink in.^^

Talbot. Aside from the top pair the D still sucks.

NHL.com

Sadly I do not have much faith at the NHL's website having the most accurate information on NHL players.

That's on the team, not the NHL. They get that number from the team.

The other number comes from GR/AHL.

 

[RRhoads]

We got the least GA in the Atlantic. Let that sink in.^^

Thst is the most shocking news I have heard all week

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

If Kasper isn't gonna get sent down, then they should have him swap places with Copp. Put him on the wing and tell him to either score or feed Ray. Put him in a situation where he's more likely to succeed, even if it means Ray has to score off Marco's skate or maybe some empty netters. Babysitting two defensively inept players is keeping his mind focused on defense and limiting his aggressiveness on offense and also forechecking. The effort level is there, he deserves that chance before he gets sent down.

That's not a bad idea and I agree with the thinking behind it and what might be affecting Kasper, but I wouldn't go there yet. I wouldn't call Berggren defensively inept this season. He's not adept either, but his effort level has been quite good IMO and he's been a bit unlucky not to have more points from the chances that line has created. The guy not yet pulling his weight is Tarasenko. Main reason though for not wanting to do a Kasper-Copp switch is that I think their current positions are their better positions. Kasper's never played wing AFAIK and won't continue improving at C unless he plays there. The more Copp has the puck, the less effective he is and he doesn't have the same physical impact or dogged forechecking that Kasper already brings. But we'll see.

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

Talbot. Aside from the top pair the D still sucks.

 

[Pavels Dog]

That was pure dominance from Edvinsson & Seider. They are turning into an elite pairing game-by-game.

Overall the best 5v5 effort of the season, not too much of a surprise given the opponent but still nice to see. With the chances they created this could have easily been a blowout.
Rasmussen I thought had an excellent game under the radar, and both Johansson and Kasper continue to show they belong.

 

[Gniwder]

That's not a bad idea and I agree with the thinking behind it and what might be affecting Kasper, but I wouldn't go there yet. I wouldn't call Berggren defensively inept this season. He's not adept either, but his effort level has been quite good IMO and he's been a bit unlucky not to have more points from the chances that line has created. The guy not yet pulling his weight is Tarasenko. Main reason though for not wanting to do a Kasper-Copp switch is that I think their current positions are their better positions. Kasper's never played wing AFAIK and won't continue improving at C unless he plays there. The more Copp has the puck, the less effective he is and he doesn't have the same physical impact or dogged forechecking that Kasper already brings. But we'll see.

I'm more concerned with his offensive output than his ability to play defense. Remember Larkin played on Z's wing and I don't think he played the position before either. Not to mention Z himself spent quite a bit of time on Datsyuk's wing.

Agree on Tank though. He's playing like he's burnt out on the game.

 

[Henkka]

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Think Ray is also 3-4 years younger than Dats and Zeta when they antered on the league. That's remarkable.

On Raymond's age, Zetterberg was still playing at Timrå, Sweden.

On Raymond's age, Datsyuk was still playing at KHL, and played for another year.

 

[14ari13]

Ed is amazing

hes so underrated

Underrated by who?

This team is basically a one line team with one legit D pair and solid goaltending. The other 3 lines are basically just killing time. Teams have gotten into the playoffs with just one line, usually don't make it past the first round.

If we make playoffs we will be lucky to win one game. But I'll take it.

Edvinsson is genuinely incredible and I think he’s gonna be even better than seider. That pairing is insanely good

Chiarot and Petry are the pairing from hell

Overall good game. Would like to see more from Kasper, or send him down to build more offense. I was the biggest proponent of having him on the team; I’d give him 10-15 more games to try and get his offense going but after that if he’s still doing his best zadina impression out there I’d send him down

I would send Berggren down to play 20 min. If possible.

Holl is way better than Petry and it’s really not close. Gus was ok tonight so for now it should be ed-seider
Gus-johansson
Chia-holl
Petry

Holl is way better than Petry?
Why don't Yzerman and Lalonde see it then?

If we win the next two I’ll start to believe again

I am happy with 1 point, you want 4.

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And he is younger 2-3 years