I said it earlier in the year Timo got paid and he’s playing like he’s not worried about earning another contract. That being said neither Muk or Musty are in the league neither one of them are actually playing so this trade right now as it sits is just zetts for timo, depending if timo goes on a streak like he normally does I’d say begrudgingly it’s a pretty even deal
We also used the 2nd round pick from NJD to move up and pick Dickinson
There is an example of a guy who puts up gaudy statistics that in the end are meaningless for his mistakes. Dak Prescot is a guy to look to as we know even this last stretch with the Niners (blowing games late) when they were playing Dullass we knew that Dak was a good bet to undo all of his Stats and blow the game. Good plays are nice but as noted for instance Ferraro and Rutta just a few mistakes getting the puck and getting it for an offensive thrust or NOT can make for a minute and a half of the whole team running around trying to get the puck back and with two or three of those in game that is a considerable portion of the game chasing and tiring for no benefit. Of Course every player has these things happen but the need to keep them to a minimum is critical.
In Kunin's case, the things that he does well make for a good 4th liner. He can bring his physical edge and energy while assisting on the PK. When he stands out doing things like that in largely meaningless spots like when he blocks a shot in a blowout, the coaches think he can do more when he can't. This also applies to Goodrow. Those two around Sturm would make a good 4th line. They all can assist killing penalties and bring their other attributes that the team wants to lean on without also leaning on them to be productive offensive players. Everyone in that top nine needs to be either capable of producing offense at a rate relative to their spot in the lineup or at least pushing the puck into the attacking zone to ease up on having to play defense so much. Guys like Goodrow and Kunin can make the occasional defensive play or two but if all it ever leads to is a chip and change then we're just right back to defending and this team will wear out. It's also counterproductive to Will Smith's development to be centering those types of guys because they aren't at all getting opportunities to cycle and create offense. Part of that is on Smith as he's just not NHL ready but wingers that can't control the puck and blue liners that can't outlet well are doing no one any favors.
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thanks a lot!
A while ago it was realized that players that make a lot of good defensive plays, "hustle" plays or big physical plays are doing so because they aren't good at winning the puck, handling it, and/or moving it out. So it was really missing the forest for the trees when players were praised for stay at home defense, hustle, blocking shots or physicality. It is far better to not have to make those plays.
It's not an even deal because the Devils are paying Timo $9M/year until he's 35. Avoiding that commitment was an unmitigated W for us. Whatever Zetterlund, Mukhamadullin and Musty develop into is just gravy.
Well, we have to make those plays because we are going through a rebuild. Guess what? After that rebuild this will happen as well. I said it before, there is another team.
Didn't read the thread eh?
I didn't realize Mario is the only Shark on the ice when they're pinned in their own zone.
Musty is sitting out Muk at best is a #3 lefty which are plentiful in the league, maybe 2nd rounders as far as roster players I can’t think of a comp right now for either
I actually view it the exact opposite was because he was a valuable asset that could not be lost for nothing the following year or at a lower valuation with the QO in place. The return for sure is the meat and potatoes with avoiding the contract being the gravy
I mean, no, but that's an irrelevant point? This isn't made up, it's why we have puck moving 1Ds instead of derrian hatchers.
A better defender how? One who controls the puck the whole time? Makes the perfect pass every time? Scores goals on every shot? Stops every onrusher with skill and accuracy?
It never made any sense for the Sharks to extend Timo and Grier traded him at the height of his value. Waiting another year would have hurt the return and likely caused us to pick up a few extra standings points with Timo in the lineup, jeopardizing our chances at Celebrini.
He literally said none of those things. Why are you jumping to those conclusions? It weakens your point.
yea for sure, no objection there. But he still needed to get something good for Timo. Avoiding the contract just feels very much like the secondary benefit of the trade, but we're reaching the same conclusion about the trade in that it's already a win.
Good defenses give up fewer shot attempts, including at the end of wins. Winning, possessing and moving pucks contribute to that. If a team is allowing a shooting gallery and blocking a lot of shots for that reason, that is not good.
The problem is not that they aren't Orr, Lindstrom, or McDavid. It's that they're either barely worth stating (Ferraro), not worth starting (Kunin), or don't belong in the NHL at all (Rutta, who I expect will go back to Czechia next year because no one in the NHL even gives him a PTO; he's only here because he got paid for past performance and it wasn't worth buying him out).
Well, one who plays overall defense at an acceptable middle-pair on a contender level, which he does not do?
