Post-Game Talk: Game 10: Avalanche @ Hurricanes | Avs Lose 3-2

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Lol Landeskog dont play with passion anymore this aint 11-12

I take it you forgot all his fights last year. He looks like junk, but man are posts like this beyond annoying.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Well not really. But I am too getting worried about the state of the game of Duchene. He has not looked like expected for quite some time now.


If he never gets over his issues, having choosen him over ROR (and we basically did that. If not for Duchene, the Avs would have been forced to pay up for ROR), it really will hurt watching ROR dominate the East.


As a huge Duchene fan it also makes me very sad. Roy really should focus on three issues right now. Our breakout, our terrible PP and Matt Duchene....

Those three really hold us back. Remember when everyone was talking crap about Duchenes linemates?

Mac is just embarassing him a bit right now by making those geezers actually look decent.

There was no choice but I'm not getting into it here.

 

[JLo217]

What's there to call out? Maybe they just aren't good? Everyone expected us to be terrible, maybe we just are. Call out a contender who is sagging, what good does calling out a ****** team? Can't get blood out of a stone. Maybe it's just not there.

Fair enough.

The thing that drives me nuts is how Roy and Sakic sold the team to the fans. Then they keep putting garbage on the ice.

No one is working harder than last year, if anything they look more lackadaisical. And they said they were gonna get off to a better start? I'd argue its worst.

 

[AvsRobin]

There is no point in calling out specific player when about two or three in total are living up to the expectations.

 

[crue7]

Guys are just giving it up to Carolina and applying awful forecheck pressure. Barely any clean breakouts so far and that's a friggin' problem.

System in my eyes
1. Get puck by blocking shot
2. Dump it immediately and pray for a turnover in the neutral zone

 

[Metallo]

We have to stop with these home run passes.

Quick & short passes so we can move up ice in a 5 man unit. Is that too much to ask?

 

[Powdered Toast Man]

I would like to mention that on the last goal Varlamov was screened by literally six players.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I take it you forgot all his fights last year. He looks like junk, but man are posts like this beyond annoying.

Wheres his passion this year?

 

[JLo217]

We have to stop with these home run passes.

Quick & short passes so we can move up ice in a 5 man unit. Is that too much to ask?

I think its even simpler than that. They need to ****ing shoot on the net.

 

[AvalancheFan19]

What's there to call out? Maybe they just aren't good? Everyone expected us to be terrible, maybe we just are. Call out a contender who is sagging, what good does calling out a ****** team? Can't get blood out of a stone. Maybe it's just not there.

We are pretty good. We have a solid core group of players. Look what Babcock has done for Toronto possession wise. It doesn't translate it wins immmediately nor necessarily but the Leafs LOOK better. We look like absolute **** and we're aren't icing junk. It's confusing, I don't blame Roy or the players but here I am scratching my head along with my fellow fans. We're icing a better team than how we look, that I'm sure of.

 

[Avsboy]

Why is there no passion? Because the leaders are all either too old, too young (Mackinnon), or headcases (Duchene). Landeskog cares but he can't do it alone.

 

[The Kingslayer]

We have to stop with these home run passes.

Quick & short passes so we can move up ice in a 5 man unit. Is that too much to ask?

Yes it is. This has been an issue for a decade now.

 

[Avs44]

Fair enough.

The thing that drives me nuts is how Roy and Sakic sold the team to the fans. Then they keep putting garbage on the ice.

No one is working harder than last year, if anything they look more lackadaisical. And they said they were gonna get off to a better start? I'd argue its worst.

I think we all should have learned by now not to take anything they say seriously. Roy knows how to (most of the time) come across as if he has a handle on everything / sounds very re-assuring, but nothing about the Avs' on ice product has backed that up.


And for those bringing up keeping Duchene 'over' O'Reilly...seriously? Have you been living under a rock for the past several years? You actually think it was a choice of one or the other?

 

[tigervixxxen]

Fair enough.

The thing that drives me nuts is how Roy and Sakic sold the team to the fans. Then they keep putting garbage on the ice.

No one is working harder than last year, if anything they look more lackadaisical. And they said they were gonna get off to a better start? I'd argue its worst.

You can't just say you'll have a good start and then just go out and do it. It's clear this team just doesn't work right now. The lineup is almost how everyone here would have it. It's not a matter of will or whatever. We just aren't good, it's that simple. The 112 point season just screwed everyone's mind. This team has younger, less experienced pieces.

 

[AslanRH]

Anyone else feel like someone told Zads to reign in his play?

Seems like he isn't looking for those "physical" moments for the last couple games. I think he needs that to really engage in the rest of the game.

 

[JoemAvs]

There was no choice but I'm not getting into it here.

I get your train of thought but I disagree with it.

Yeah ROR forced his way out but there is no way that the Avs let him go if they don't have Matt Duchene.

I am not clamoring for ROR or anything although I loved him as a player.

I am just saying that Duchene has to step it up bigtime or we will one day really regret not trading him instead of ROR (whom lets face it we are really missing right now).


Yeah Landeskog is bad right now but there are atleast indications that he is banged up and atleast he looked very good over our first few games.

Duchene on the other hand has been a trainwreck the whole season so far from what I have seen and read so far. And he did not finish last season on a high note IIRC either.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Why is there no passion? Because the leaders are all either too old, too young (Mackinnon), or headcases (Duchene). Landeskog cares but he can't do it alone.

He doesnt seem to care. Drop the shoulder and jam that puck into Ward. Do something.

 

[Freudian]

Avs struggle to create much. Canes seem to have much more space when gaining the blue line than Avs do.

It's one of the worst hockey games I've seen this year. Low quality in all areas of the game.

 

[AvsRobin]

5 vs 5 team corsi

40-17 Carolina

Best
Mitchell 2-4
Gormley 5-7
Grigorenko 2-5
McLeod 1-4

Worst
Holden 5-20
Barrie 5-16
EJ 7-16
Soderberg 7-16

 

[Skip2myBordyloo]

I thought Landeskog looked pretty good first couple games of the year. He's doing his vanishing act again like last year around this time though.

 

[Alex Jones]

Landeskog looks way worse. Maybe people will notice soon.

Hes back to zero coordination mode.

 

[tigervixxxen]

We are pretty good. We have a solid core group of players. Look what Babcock has done for Toronto possession wise. It doesn't translate it wins immmediately nor necessarily but the Leafs LOOK better. We look like absolute **** and we're aren't icing junk. It's confusing, I don't blame Roy or the players but here I am scratching my head along with my fellow fans. We're icing a better team than how we look, that I'm sure of.

I really don't think so, it's better in theory. It might eventually look better. You can't just turnover 1/3 of the roster and just assume it's all going to be great. We don't even have enough top 6 forwards, the D is young.

 

[Metallo]

Yes it is. This has been an issue for a decade now.

Ok, all I'll ask is for them to stop looking for the home run pass because it doesn't work.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Anyone else feel like someone told Zads to reign in his play?

Seems like he isn't looking for those "physical" moments for the last couple games. I think he needs that to really engage in the rest of the game.

He went for a hit at the wrong time and helped cause that rask goal. If they reigning him in he sure didnt listen there. Thats the first time I seen Roy lean into one of the guys since that one playoff game when he went at Mackinnon for something

 

[AslanRH]

Wheres his passion this year?

Read this business every year.

Followed by how he is too focused on making that passionate play and putting the Avs in a bad spot.

Followed by how he doesn't work hard enough at both ends.

At least he's consistent in his mediocrity I guess