GDT: Game 1: Red Wings vs penguins 8:00 pm et 10/10/24

[GarlicbreadTB]

Pens getting spanked by NYR right now. So better be on our guard tomorrow, probably will be a team with a point to prove.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

What has led you to believe that "earned" has anything to do with anything with regards to roster decisions?

Do you believe Berggren is a better player than any of Raymond, Kane, DeBrincat, or Tarasenko?

 

[jkutswings]

I love reading threads where half the discussion is coming from somebody on my ignore list.

Makes me feel a little less crazy to see so many others talking to themselves.

 

[norrisnick]

Do you believe Berggren is a better player than any of Raymond, Kane, DeBrincat, or Tarasenko?

Potentially. But we'll never know.

I don't believe that Kane or Tarasenko in our top 6 this year is going to do anything with regards to us eventually becoming a team good enough to compete in the playoffs. They'll sell a few tickets and sweaters in the short term, but they don't push us into contention this season and they won't be here when we are in contention. If you swap either of them with Berggren's spot on the 4th line, there would be a much smaller difference in effectiveness than most people would expect. My preference is to play the guy that might actually be here when it matters.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Did you forget you already said this, or what?

Agreeing with someone means you’re the same person? Does this mean all the optimists on here are just one deluded guy?

 

[izlez]

Agreeing with someone means you’re the same person? Does this mean all the optimists on here are just one deluded guy?

I mean, it’s kinda weird to use near identical wording to express a shared opinion.

Anyways, do YOU have the statistics to show that this is
A: True?
B: A bad idea?

 

[redwings8831]

Pens lost 6-0 to the Rangers in their home opener

 

[19 for president]

My issue with that 4th line is that it has zero identity.

Berg-Veleno-Ras
Motte-Copp-Fisher

At least that sort of makes sense. You have a shutdown line and maybe one with a little more offensive potential. Would prefer Kasper centering that line, but as he's not there, I could live with this. Depending on if we need D or Offensive the ensuing line plays more.

Our current 4th line very much screams spare parts.

With that said I'm expecting a total jumble within 10 games as I don't see this current forward lineup working well overall unless the DBC-Larkin-Raymond line starts scoring at a crazy pace. Tank doesn't have a great history at LW and that 2nd line only works if he and Kane click.

 

[RedHawkDown]

I mean, it’s kinda weird to use near identical wording to express a shared opinion.

Anyways, do YOU have the statistics to show that this is
A: True?
B: A bad idea?

I apologize for having similar wording to another poster.

You can find rookie games played stats freely available on Statmuse.
A - the only rookie who had any games with the wings last year was Edvinsson with 16. This was among the lowest in the entire league as far as I’m aware.
The only other teams close (panthers with around 10-11, Winnipeg, avalanche , hurricanes) were all contenders.

Look at the teams around us:
Buffalo - 100+
Tampa - around 50 between a bunch of lower end guys
Blues - about 100
Minnesota - 100+
Washington - 100+
List goes on

We finished just as shit as all these teams. Can you explain to me why it’s better to lose with old vets who have no chance of improving and no future with the club versus losing the same with kids who can actually have a chance of developing into something greater ?

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

We are probably going to get their rookie backup goalie tomorrow in Blomqvist.

Which, based on our history against backup rookie tenders making their first start, I am extremely nervous for tomorrow now.

 

[dalem177]

Am I the only one actually looking forward to the game tomorrow?

 

[norrisnick]

Am I the only one actually looking forward to the game tomorrow?

I'm chomping at the bit. Doing a trial run on the big display panels in the office. Got half of an 8' Jupiter display showing the Oilers get smacked by the Jets (had to keep actual work stuff up there too...).

 

[lilidk]

We are going to face very angry team. After watching highlights against NR , I think their defence looks not good at all.

 

[RRhoads]

Back to backs are always hard, especially early in the season when you haven't reached game fitness, which no one has this early.

 

[Pavels Dog]

My issue with that 4th line is that it has zero identity.

Maybe let them create one before judging. I mean that's pretty the job Veleno and Berggren have this season. Prove they have something to bring to the lineup that make them valuable over Kasper, Mazur, Danielson etc. breathing down their necks.
It's a spare parts line because none of them are going to get a free ride to playing 82 games. Prove it or lose it.

 

[Henkka]

Looking forward to another season of leading the league in fewest rookie games played! Makes perfect sense for a rebuilding team

That will remind me of Tampa Bay Lightning somewhere at 2013.

What a disaster team it was later on.

Pens getting spanked by NYR right now. So better be on our guard tomorrow, probably will be a team with a point to prove.

Penguins has at least very balanced and equal defence. Every player was 0+0 and -2 on that game against NYR.

 

[Winger98]

I don't like the lineup. Blashill's teams were so bad I'm not sure I cared what his lines were, but I miss the days of Babcock and Bowman where the lines at least made some sense. We might have had our pet causes where we wanted this or that player to get more ice time, but where they put guys you got the reasoning behind it. I might just be entirely wrong and these lanes will be great, but if they're not I don't have faith in Lalonde changing them.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Ya'll need to watch some highlights of the end of last season and get some optimism into your lives

 

[Ulysses31]

dropping beats supreme- O 4 R PPLs
*****s n Latinos - mos def

super stoked for game

 

[Henkka]

Maybe let them create one before judging. I mean that's pretty the job Veleno and Berggren have this season. Prove they have something to bring to the lineup that make them valuable over Kasper, Mazur, Danielson etc. breathing down their necks.
It's a spare parts line because none of them are going to get a free ride to playing 82 games. Prove it or lose it.

Great post. Let them create.

We haven't even seen them together yet for more than 6 minutes at the pre-season.