Value of: Gallagher to the Oilers

[ChaoticOrange]

Mcdavid or draistle

You’re going to need about two more Gallagher’s to get in the Draisaitl conversation and at least one of them will need to be RHD.

Price at 50%, Weber at 50%, Gallagher at 50%, Galchenyuk, Mete, and 4th and it’s still a no for McDavid.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

You want to value players on prorated stats that's your right, I'm not paying for what they could do if they stay healthy

I have no problem if someone wants to say Gally is a 45-50 pt winger, 2 years ago he was on pace for 62, he's missed a lot of time since so I'm not on here saying he's a 65 pt winger

As I said a few posts back pace means nothing, at the end of the day I'm getting 45 pts/yr if I trade for RNH so that's what I value him at, if I was actually getting 55-65 then he's more valuable and likely not available

Just saying - if Edmonton was looking at the 16-17 version of Gallagher they’d assume they’re getting a 35-40 point winger.

There’s only one season in Nuge’s career you could safely look at him as just a 45 point player.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Maybe that Bear guy they keep dangling.

It’s mostly other teams fans trying to grab Bear on the sly to be honest.

The Oilers need Bear. We have squat for RHD in the system and he’s found money right now.

William Lagesson would be my offer. Played top pairing in the Swedish league this season. Tough mobile, only 22 and coming back to North America to try to steal a job from a vet - and to be honest if we keep him I like his chances. Won’t ever be a point producer but plays like Adam Larsson Lite.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Edward Pasquale + 9th for Gallagher

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Just saying - if Edmonton was looking at the 16-17 version of Gallagher they’d assume they’re getting a 35-40 point winger.

There’s only one season in Nuge’s career you could safely look at him as just a 45 point player.

You're 100% correct and the year before that Gally was a 40 pt player regardless if he did it in 53 GP. If I want to have more GF at the end of the season I have to hope someone else on the roster steps up and bridges the gap of reality and this pace argument.

The only safe thing with Nuge is I can safely expect 45 pts/year

Put him side by side to a guy that plays 82 games and puts up 45 pts yeah I go with RNH and pray he stays healthy but I wouldn't pay extra for it cause more often than not it doesn't happen

 

[TFHockey]

You're 100% correct and the year before that Gally was a 40 pt player regardless if he did it in 53 GP. If I want to have more GF at the end of the season I have to hope someone else on the roster steps up and bridges the gap of reality and this pace argument.

The only safe thing with Nuge is I can safely expect 45 pts/year

Put him side by side to a guy that plays 82 games and puts up 45 pts yeah I go with RNH and pray he stays healthy but I wouldn't pay extra for it cause more often than not it doesn't happen

You're clueless. 56 points twice. Pre-McDavid. Wake up.

 

[ottawa]

Don't see the habs dealing Gallagher, he's on a great contract too. 9th overall isn't bad but no thanks.

 

[ottawa]

Check Gallaghers stats. Dude is the only 40 point player in this discussion

He literally just came off a 54 point season...at least put effort into your trolling.

 

[McAsuno]

You’re going to need about two more Gallagher’s to get in the Draisaitl conversation and at least one of them will need to be RHD.

Price at 50%, Weber at 50%, Gallagher at 50%, Galchenyuk, Mete, and 4th and it’s still a no for McDavid.

Who's Draistle, anyways?

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

You're clueless. 56 points twice. Pre-McDavid. Wake up.

What 4 years ago? How many points did he get the 15/16 season?

 

[Legend123]

Gallagher has officially been put off the table for me. Either a team overpays, or he is the Habs next captain. So easy no to either offers. Ive been that impressed with him. Thats if we do dont in fact rebuild.
But if the habs do consider a full rebuild, I would say yes to the 9OA pick + something better than Strome.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Gallagher has officially been put off the table for me. Either a team overpays, or he is the Habs next captain. So easy no to either offers. Ive been that impressed with him. Thats if we do dont in fact rebuild.
But if the habs do consider a full rebuild, I would say yes to the 9OA pick + something better than Strome.

Strome is the absolute median player on the Oilers. He’s perfectly middling. There’s not much else we could add.

There’s a cluster of assets I would consider more valuable or less available than he is that I would say are off the table as an addition to 9th - McDavid, Drai, Nuge, Nurse, Klefbom, Larsson, 2019 1st, Khaira, Puljujarvi, Yamamoto, Benson, Jones, Bear, Skinner, Samorukov, Maksimov, Marody, and Safin. It might not be a pure value thing with these guys, could be things like in Maksimov/Samorukov/Skinner’s case they’re outperforming their draft position and trending really well.

And then there are a cluster of assets less valuable or bigger gambles than Strome that are available - pieces like later picks, Kassian, Benning, Wells, Lagesson, Mantha, Ellis, Montoya, Sekera, etc.

 

[yababy]

The only safe thing with Nuge is I can safely expect 45 pts/year

You can safely expect 45-60 point center who plays a 200foot game. I don't see anyone on your team that fits that description.

 

[yababy]

He literally just came off a 54 point season...at least put effort into your trolling.

That's his high water mark. I don't think it will be repeated

 

[Beendair Donedat]

You’d have to include your first at absolute least and even then no one in their right minds is trading a young 1C for Gallagher+.

Nugent—Hopkins is a winger now (haha), and he’s not worth a top 5 1st round pick more than Gallagher. Not even close. Their value is about equal with both teams needs being a factor - Habs need centers, Oilers need wingers.

 

[habsterr]

You can safely expect 45-60 point center who plays a 200foot game. I don't see anyone on your team that fits that description.

RNH has never hit 60 points, Id consider him a 50 point player.

Gallagher for 9th overall + Strome is still an easy yes from me.

 

[General Fanager]

You can safely expect 45-60 point center who plays a 200foot game. I don't see anyone on your team that fits that description.

Thats why we would deal Gallagher for one. But for nothing less. We arent interested in fair value. We dont care about market value either. The Habs need a good center or a top pair LD. Anything less Gallagher isnt available.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Gallaghers are a dime a dozen.
As a Canadiens fan you love Gallagher and you think Nuge is a fair deal. The market sees it a lot differently.

Gallagher isn’t a “dime a dozen,” not even close. Denigrating a player because you’re too soft mentally to argue a point is an often used tactic it seems from your end.

How do you know what the market is for either player?

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

You can safely expect 45-60 point center who plays a 200foot game. I don't see anyone on your team that fits that description.

Well duh, it’s no secret we have the worst C depth in the league, doesn’t mean we over value an average C to compensate, would rather rebuild than pull a Hall for Larsson desperation deal

Pacioretty was money for a half dozen years for 35 Gs and 65 pts, one off-season and he’s a piece of crap on the decline according to the other fan bases

RNH is going on 1000+days of being a 45 pt/season C but yet is a 60 pt C which he has never hit

 

[ottawa]

That's his high water mark. I don't think it will be repeated

Based on your bait posts so far in this thread this probably isn't worth my time

 

[ole ole]

Based on your bait posts so far in this thread this probably isn't worth my time

Thank you. You just reminded me of how not to deal with that troll.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

That's his high water mark. I don't think it will be repeated

According to your interpretation of the stats his high water mark is 62 pts so we will just round that up to 65pts, or does pace and personal bias only count for Edmonton players?

He just got 54 pts with what you've told us is the worst C depth in the league, just imagine him with an actual Top 6 C

Can't wait to see how you twist the facts in your response

 

[ChaoticOrange]

According to your interpretation of the stats his high water mark is 62 pts so we will just round that up to 65pts, or does pace and personal bias only count for Edmonton players?

He just got 54 pts with what you've told us is the worst C depth in the league, just imagine him with an actual Top 6 C

Can't wait to see how you twist the facts in your response

If we’re taking linemates into account it’s worth mentioning that RNH was on a 60 point pace before playing with McDavid - he was stapled to Lucic before that.

Strangely, Lucic was about as useful as pants to a fish after RNH got hurt and subsequently moved up after he got healthy. Hrm.

 

[McFlyingV]

He's actually from BC. He says NO to Edmonton, on principle.

He's actually not. He played hockey out of Sherwood Park until the age of 12, I used to play against him. He moved to BC for Bantam.

 

[ole ole]

He's actually from BC. He says NO to Edmonton, on principle.

Gallagher was born in Edmonton, Alberta, but grew up in Tsawwassen, British Columbia, after moving there with his family at the age of 12.
Try again.