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How long would you expect Tampa to sign a 37 old player like St.Louis for. He had just finished his previous 6 year contract...
Lucid? Krecji?
Great point. Do your homework
Oh, btw, good job on not using "SS" OR "fanboys".
How long would you expect Tampa to sign a 37 old player like St.Louis for. He had just finished his previous 6 year contract...
Ference would get my vote, Mature, has won, trains diligently, mentors, respected around the league, can lead on the ice with physical play and fighting if need be. What else would you want from a captain?
Yep, I'd want this guy leading my team considering what the other options are.
Couldn't agree more if he shows that he fits in well in camp he is the most suitable short term option, hall would be good dont get me wrong but he is just too young to really show the team what it's like to battle day in and day out. I can see Eakins liking Ference alot as well as the fan base
Lucid? Krecji?
Great point. Do your homework
Oh, btw, good job on not using "SS" OR "fanboys".
Couldn't agree more if he shows that he fits in well in camp he is the most suitable short term option, hall would be good dont get me wrong but he is just too young to really show the team what it's like to battle day in and day out. I can see Eakins liking Ference alot as well as the fan base
None of which is really relevant to whether or not he'd be a good captain.
Right. Mediocre non-core players make great captains.
See Moreau, Ethan.
Smith, Jason
Are you comparing Jason Smith to Sam Gagner?
Are you comparing Jason Smith to Sam Gagner?
I don't know. The Pronger type personality is the reason why many people don't want Hall to be captain.
I wasn't referencing that. I'm just saying game ready shape. I'll be straight up here. Eberle is the worst for it. But I don't know that either RNH or Hall have been in peak condition and using best possible work out regimen either. Krueger hinted at it last year and singled Gagner for praise multiple times and using him as an example in so many words of what the club wanted the core players to be doing.
Are you comparing Jason Smith to Sam Gagner?
No, Smith is to Ethan Moreau, what good non core captain is to bad non core captain. Disproving your point.
Jason Smith was a top pairing level shutdown Dman. He was the undisputed leader in the dressing room. One of the greatest warriors to wear an oilers jersey in the last 20 years. He commanded the respect of his peers. Moreau was not that, and Gagner isn't even close.
In theory, very true. But for many years, on a mediocre Oilers squad, he was forced into it many years. Same with Steve Staois. A bottom pairing dman if I ever saw one, but due to the Oilers pathetic drafting and roster incompetence, played way above his water line.Jason Smith was not a top pairing d man. Not even close.
I wasn't referencing that. I'm just saying game ready shape. I'll be straight up here. Eberle is the worst for it. But I don't know that either RNH or Hall have been in peak condition and using best possible work out regimen either. Krueger hinted at it last year and singled Gagner for praise multiple times and using him as an example in so many words of what the club wanted the core players to be doing. Why would a club be stating that unless there WAS an issue?
ALL of our top picks need to be playing better, even including Hall. These are top draftpicks in the world playing together. They should fairly quickly be owning. They weren't even owning the AHL for the first month last year as they worked their way into shape. I would imagine the org thinks this isn't enough and expects more. I would say that the best players in the world should motivate to be the best. A tad bit of resting on laurels has gone on. Theres 3 forwards on this club that are obviously more talented than Gagner. But so far only one of them, Hall, is showing the same tenacity.
Didn't Gagner get demoted to the 4th line when Quinn was here due to work ethic?
Jason Smith was a top pairing level shutdown Dman. He was the undisputed leader in the dressing room. One of the greatest warriors to wear an oilers jersey in the last 20 years. He commanded the respect of his peers.
Hall has a Pronger type of personality? Who are these many people that don't want Hall as captain?
I'm not sure where some of you get this stuff from about Hall's supposed immaturity and now he has a Pronger type of personality unworthy of being captain according to MANY people? Oh good lord.
It's funny how some of you act as if you know these guys behind the scenes, mind boggling actually.
Didn't Gagner get demoted to the 4th line when Quinn was here due to work ethic?
Well it's definitely not me, I think Hall is a completely fine choice as captain. The more vocal people on here against Hall being captain were apparently alpha'd by him at the bar.
Didn't Gagner get demoted to the 4th line when Quinn was here due to work ethic?