Gsus
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Tell me why Avs would trade their captain Landeskog? I can't see him being a disappointment thus far and the cap hit is okay.
Speculation: Gabriel Landeskog for Hampus Lindholm
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hirawl
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Some stranger player-for-player swaps have certainly happened. An organisational need is a weird animal sometimes. Still Landeskog's trade value is around 60% of Lindholm's trade value. So a very good piece should be added to Landy to make this happen IMO. And I struggle to find one that the both teams would be happy with.
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Jarey Curry
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Go check Landy's player profile and career etc. Then erase that 60% **** you wrote okay
Lindholm is not a god among defensemen
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Go check Landy's player profile and career etc. Then erase that 60% **** you wrote okay
He instantly becomes your #1 without a challange, Landeskog would be 2nd best winger on our team.
Like I said before: I love #47 but he has now become overrated.
But I guess there's no harm in a fan base overrating their player.
But I guess there's no harm in a fan base overrating their player.
Why is limiting it to their respective roles pointless? What would it matter if there was a better center than landy or better rd than lindholm when youre assessing how good each is at their specific position? If anything, including players who dont play landy/lindholm's roles is pointless.
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Lindholm has the potential to become an elite 1D, and appears to be a lock to be a legitimate 1D. LW is the single least valuable position in the NHL, and Landeskog appears to be a very good 2 way player but not elite - being top 20 in a notoriously weak position doesn't make you elite. The value isn't close.
Look up the number of teams that have Cup wins without an elite, or at least legitimate 1D - you're basically going back to Carolina. Now look at the team's that have HAD an elite LW and won a Cup. Pretty much none of them. Again, the value isn't close. This isn't a vacuum.
a mangy Meowth
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This thread has become a bit of a joke, I'm glad the Ducks are happy with their elite 1D though!
Arthuros
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No, we said "potential elite 1D", don't be silly.
I also don't think Landeskog is only 60% of Lindholm's value. I just wouldn't want Landeskog at the cost of Lindholm.
Landeskog is literally the exact player I expected he'd be. First line, physical, two way winger. That's pretty much his 2011 scouting report exactly.
Not an ideal 2OV, but it isn't like the Avs missed with that pick. There just wasn't much elite talent in that draft outside of Gaudreau.
cgf
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Before scoring went down I thought he'd be able to hit 70, but given the way scoring's gone down 60-65 is that 70 I hoped he'd be able to hit on top of his excellent defensive game, physicality, and leadership...And Landy's production can still take a jump once MacK is playing consistently at the level we saw him at to start last season.
I get Ducks fans not wanting to trade a young #1 dman away for Landy, but this kid has been everything we hoped he'd be. That's why he wears the C for this team and will continue to for the foreseeable future; and that's why he's consistently out there against top opposition on our toughest minute line.
hirawl
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Go check Landy's player profile and career etc. Then erase that 60% **** you wrote okay
Not talking their quality as hockey players nor am I talking their value to their respective teams. I'm talking pure trade value at this very point. And I'm firmly standing behind my estimate of 60% thank you very much.
sully1410
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Who writes this stuff? Lindholm was drafted in 2012...not 2010 and has never posted 40pts in 80 games. He had 40pim in 80 games...
Willy Styles
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LOL
Im not a fan of either team but...
Landeskog has a significantly lower value than Lindholm. Landeskog is a 50-65 point winger, who is defensively responsible. Yes I understand he is your team captain and all, but Lindholm is already a #1D on a contender.
Lindholm is literally the best young defender in the league along with Jones and Reilly. A young top line winger does not get you the best young defender in the league who is already probally already one of the top 15-20 d-men in the league, no way.
Not to mention that Anaheim still has about two years of contention left in their roster. Why would they trade their best d man who is also their most valuable and best player going forward for a winger. This trade leaves the Ducks significantly worse both in the short term and the longterm, and the avs significantly better in the long and short term.
Im not a fan of either team but...
Landeskog has a significantly lower value than Lindholm. Landeskog is a 50-65 point winger, who is defensively responsible. Yes I understand he is your team captain and all, but Lindholm is already a #1D on a contender.
Lindholm is literally the best young defender in the league along with Jones and Reilly. A young top line winger does not get you the best young defender in the league who is already probally already one of the top 15-20 d-men in the league, no way.
Not to mention that Anaheim still has about two years of contention left in their roster. Why would they trade their best d man who is also their most valuable and best player going forward for a winger. This trade leaves the Ducks significantly worse both in the short term and the longterm, and the avs significantly better in the long and short term.
I don't think too many are arguing that Landeskog actually gets Lindholm but way to try to shoehorn your guy into the convo anyway.
Avsblitzkrieg
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Come on man I don't think a single avs fans has even mentioned it would be a fair trade. Mind you, we ain't gonna take noone ****ing on our player.
Avsblitzkrieg
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PHP:
nit's tough to speculate on. However, Roy was on the hot seat and now with him gone. The players need to step up under a new coach. We need to find out if it was the coach or the players or both. If certain players continue to underwhelm at that point there **possible** changes. Not until then.
The Ducks are going to lose a good Dman in the expansion draft , Lindholm isn't
going to be it though , better to target Fowler and have Ana add.
going to be it though , better to target Fowler and have Ana add.
Avs44
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Fowler doesn't even start a conversation. Landy is signed long term and a great fit on the Avs, zero reason to move him for anything short of a perfect return.
Vipers31
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He has not become overrated. Most of the guys valuing Lindholm most highly aren't even Ducks fans.
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