Speculation: Gabriel Landeskog for Hampus Lindholm

[ManofSteel55]

That's not true at all, if anything there are far more young top 4 RHD coming through than ever before.

And it doesn't matter if Larsson is a RD, Lindholm has played on the right before and he is so much better than Larsson that a team wouldn't worry that much about handedness.

Care to explain how Lindholm is "so much better" than Larsson?

I think a lot of people don't realize how good Larsson has become thanks to playing in a market that doesn't get a lot of attention.

 

[Exit Dose]

Care to explain how Lindholm is "so much better" than Larsson?

I think a lot of people don't realize how good Larsson has become thanks to playing in a market that doesn't get a lot of attention.

Unlike Anaheim which has the spotlight on it at all times.

 

[go4hockey]

Colorado doesn't have too much on the wings, and I feel like Landeskog has been too important of a cog for them. Defense is a need, but I'm not sure they can absorb that cost.

The Avs would make this trade instantly. Landeskog is good but if you can grab a young stud defenseman like Lindholm you jump at it. Top end defenseman just are not moved often and I'm pretty sure this one won't be moved any time soon.

 

[go4hockey]

Care to explain how Lindholm is "so much better" than Larsson?

I think a lot of people don't realize how good Larsson has become thanks to playing in a market that doesn't get a lot of attention.

Kinda funny how most oiler fans weren't as high on Larsson until he became their player. Larsson is a very good defenseman to me Lindholm is just a little better and does everything pretty good and has more room to grow. That just me time will tell. Lindholm has top 10 potential where I don't feel Larsson can get reach those heights.

 

[Nordic*]

Never thought I'd say this, but it seems like #47 is becoming overrated.

Defensively there aren't many I'd pick over him, but he still has rough edges, for instance when it comes to handling the puck (losing it between his own legs) etc.

It's not like he clearly has a noticeably higher value than Hall or Lando. I'd say their values are really close at this point. It's pretty much up to what the respective team needs.

Lando for Lindholm does make sense.

Anaheim needs a first line winger and Colorado needs a first pairing defenceman. Anaheim also have several young studly D-men waiting for their shot in the NHL.

Colorado probably adds a little though.

Lando + 2nd for Lindholm or take the 2nd out and instead have Colorado take Stoner as a cap dump.

Lando-Getzlaf-Perry would be a mother****er to play against.

 

[Arthuros]

Never thought I'd say this, but it seems like #47 is becoming overrated.

Defensively there aren't many I'd pick over him, but he still has rough edges, for instance when it comes to handling the puck (losing it between his own legs) etc.

It's not like he clearly has a noticeably higher value than Hall or Lando. I'd say their values are really close at this point. It's pretty much up to what the respective team needs.

Lando for Lindholm does make sense.

Anaheim needs a first line winger and Colorado needs a first pairing defenceman. Anaheim also have several young studly D-men waiting for their shot in the NHL.

Colorado probably adds a little though.

Lando + 2nd for Lindholm or take the 2nd out and instead have Colorado take Stoner as a cap dump.

Lando-Getzlaf-Perry would be a mother****er to play against.

Getting Landeskog in exchange for Lindholm would be like robbing Paul to pay Peter. There's no point in swapping our best shot at an elite #1 for a top-6 winger.

 

[Avsblitzkrieg]

In the end this trade isnt gonna a happen.

 

[wraparound]

The only piece from Colorado that would be "fair" value for Lindholm would be McKinnon. Adding McKinnon at C would allow Rakell to slide to wing & would significantly improve Anaheim's speed/offense.

But that would never happen...

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Anaheim will not trade Lindholm, this is BS that has been circulating the net, started by those morons at hockey press.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Only way Ducks POSSIBLY considers this idea is if they feel Theodore can step in right away and play 20+ mins every night extremely well

But damn Landeskog on Ducks would look good

 

[snipes]

Only way Ducks POSSIBLY considers this idea is if they feel Theodore can step in right away and play 20+ mins every night extremely well

But damn Landeskog on Ducks would look good

Dmen carry significantly more value than wingers. Even if they thought Theo could handle the load, they don't do this.

Add in the fact that Lindholm is a better player who is already a bona fide #1 on the cusp of breaking into that elite category of D just below the franchise type (i.e. Doughty) ANA hangs up the phone rather quickly.

 

[Exit Dose]

Anaheim needs a first line winger and Colorado needs a first pairing defenceman. Anaheim also have several young studly D-men waiting for their shot in the NHL.

Oh lord. No Anaheim needs Lindholm. That's not something that changes for a first line winger. Top-end defensemen are more important to Anaheim than adding another winger. There's a reason why re-signing Lindholm has been the highest priority for Anaheim this summer. Whether you understand that or not, it is the truth. Prospects don't change that.

 

[Palmer2Fitz]

As good as Landeskog is, you just don't trade player like Lindholm. They should move any other dman instead of him. He is gonna be in Norris conversation soon. As much crap as us Coyotes fans get about overrating OEL, there is a reason we rate him over most fowards in the NHL.

 

[LeapOnOver]

This should enlighten you a little bit. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/anahem-ducks-blueliner-hampus-lindholm-changing-way-judge-nhl-defencemen/

That article fails to mention whether Anaheim has any defensive depth and who the replacement is when Lindholm isn't playing or on the ice. Could be all their numbers are skyrocketing because the rest of the defenseman are a bunch of Brian Straits.

I don't think either team should do this trade but I don't think their value is that far apart. Dmen are certainly a commodity, but so are young forwards with a great two way game. It's not like we are talking about a 1 dimensional guy in Landeskog.

 

[Sojourn]

Never thought I'd say this, but it seems like #47 is becoming overrated.

Defensively there aren't many I'd pick over him, but he still has rough edges, for instance when it comes to handling the puck (losing it between his own legs) etc.

It's not like he clearly has a noticeably higher value than Hall or Lando. I'd say their values are really close at this point. It's pretty much up to what the respective team needs.

Lando for Lindholm does make sense.

Anaheim needs a first line winger and Colorado needs a first pairing defenceman. Anaheim also have several young studly D-men waiting for their shot in the NHL.

Colorado probably adds a little though.

Lando + 2nd for Lindholm or take the 2nd out and instead have Colorado take Stoner as a cap dump.

Lando-Getzlaf-Perry would be a mother****er to play against.

Let me say, first off, that I dig Landeskog. I would love to add him. I wouldn't love to add him for Lindholm.

But that isn't really why I'm responding... You've mentioned many times how big a step back our blue line takes without Fowler, and now you're proposing we move Lindholm?

For the record, I'm not suggesting our blue line wouldn't take a step back if we moved Fowler. It absolutely would. It's why I think the team should head into the season with him on the roster, and then make adjustments accordingly during the season. I'd rather have the strong blue line first, instead of being more average across the board.

What I don't get is how you can say that about Fowler, and then go on to say we'd survive without Lindholm. Those are two contradicting statements, once you really look at them. Even if we say, for the sake of argument, that Lindholm is equal to Fowler, you should be saying the same thing about him that you are about Fowler. Even if their strengths are in different areas, the end result is still a blue line missing a big piece. No one else on the blue line is equivalent to either of them. And, finally, even if someone like Theodore, or Larsson, or even Montour somehow reaches the level of either of them, in all likelihood that is at least a few years away. That doesn't do much for them now.

All of this is before you consider Lindholm's age, and his upside, which is quite good. Currently, he'd be damn tough to replace, but if he becomes that true #1? It could take a decade to get a prospect who even has the potential. Which still doesn't mean they reach it.

 

[nilssont]

No thanks. I like Landeskog alot and he has alot of value but we simply cannot trade Lindholm.
Would add a couple of good pieces with Fowler for Landeskog or Duchene though.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Unlike Anaheim which has the spotlight on it at all times.

Don't kid yourself, Anaheim had a lot of media attention over the past few years compared to New Jersey

 

[ManofSteel55]

Kinda funny how most oiler fans weren't as high on Larsson until he became their player. Larsson is a very good defenseman to me Lindholm is just a little better and does everything pretty good and has more room to grow. That just me time will tell. Lindholm has top 10 potential where I don't feel Larsson can get reach those heights.

We weren't because New Jersey doesn't get much discussion time anywhere. Devils fans have enlightened us.

 

[Exit Dose]

Don't kid yourself, Anaheim had a lot of media attention over the past few years compared to New Jersey

We are consistently hovering near the bottom of the number of national broadcasts. Maybe things are different in Canada, but it sure as hell isn't that way in the US.

 

[ManofSteel55]

We are consistently hovering near the bottom of the number of national broadcasts. Maybe things are different in Canada, but it sure as hell isn't that way in the US.

I am sure New Jersey is as well. Anaheim gets more coverage in hockey media because they have a few star players and are seen as a contender.

 

[Exit Dose]

I am sure New Jersey is as well. Anaheim gets more coverage in hockey media because they have a few star players and are seen as a contender.

That doesn't mean that people know anything about Lindholm.

 

[ManofSteel55]

That doesn't mean that people know anything about Lindholm.

You have made a connection that isn't there. I stated that Larsson is being underrated here and suggested that it is because New Jersey gets no media love. I never said anything about Lindholm. But with the way he is pumped up on HF, I think most know how good he is. Or how good he is perceived to be anyway.

 

[Exit Dose]

You have made a connection that isn't there. I stated that Larsson is being underrated here and suggested that it is because New Jersey gets no media love. I never said anything about Lindholm. But with the way he is pumped up on HF, I think most know how good he is. Or how good he is perceived to be anyway.

There have been plenty of threads on these boards, the last few days, that would suggest otherwise.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

You have made a connection that isn't there. I stated that Larsson is being underrated here and suggested that it is because New Jersey gets no media love. I never said anything about Lindholm. But with the way he is pumped up on HF, I think most know how good he is. Or how good he is perceived to be anyway.

larsson is not as good as lindholm that does not make him underrated.

 

[Sean Garrity]

Sounds a lot like a lower-key Doughty or Keith - is his ceiling that high though?

No, but a top 10, OEL type is not out of the question.