GDT: G55: Avs @ Nucks - Tues Feb 4 @ 8:00 PM MT - Quivering Without Quinnifer

[littletonhockeycoach]

Bednar really can't Coach against coaches like Tocchet. Any team that plays us tight, we get shutout.

True but I will add that Foote knows exactly how to play this squad and against Bednar's system.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

True but I will add that Foote knows exactly how to play this squad and against Bednar's system.

Really wish they'd look at changing out the assistant coaches at least. Just some new ideas to make the team way less predictable

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I'd like either Drury or Necas to center the second line next game. See if either of them can generate a spark of something even if just momentarily.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Since the trade the Avs have scored more than 2 goals twice.

I mean to be fair, before the trade the Avs scored 2 goals or less 6 times in January so it's not like they were scoring a ton with Mikko either.

 

[drhiii]

The Avs are not constructed (nor coached) to play a grinding, hard nose, crowd the opposing goaltender game.

Nor will they when that's the only tactic that is going to work. We've seen this (at a minimum) vs the Jets and the Canucks.

Grinding and lunch pail style hockey does not apply to Wood or Colton because they both are morons.

I suppose Tocchat and Foote heard that Bednar wants the Avs to play playoff like hockey before the break because they prep'd their team to play it too.

Oh... snap.

Completely forgot based on what we just saw that this was Avs version of playoff hockey... until you reminded us.

 

[LOFIN]

f*** demko

 

[dahrougem2]

The Avs generated TWO high danger chances the final 40 minutes. Six all game.

Pathetic. Truly pathetic display after the 1st.

It's like they went into the room moping and sad they didn't score and gave up.

 

[drhiii]

Bednar would never play this style, but I think for the Avs to remain competitive they need to embrace more physicality.

In theory for sure want this.

Problem is... beds edits out aspects of a player's game rendering this idea (in bednar-speak) kinda sorta not loving the idea... remote.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

In theory for sure want this.

Problem is... beds edits out aspects of a player's game rendering this idea kinda sorta... remote.

It's why I said Bednar would never play that style. I really do think we need to move off of Bednar. He's a great guy. He's done the team plenty of good. He doesn't seem to realize the team isn't the 2022 version.

 

[chet1926]

Agree with everyone saying it's not fun to watch Avs hockey this season.

It feels like a chore. Honestly, I'll probably not tune in for the Flames and Oilers games and get a good 3 week break from this garbage.

This is great way to describe it. I feel obligated to watch because I always do, but I don't enjoy it. It's like doing the dishes or laundry. I do it because I need to, but it isn't fun.

And this sucks. Sports are are supposed to fun and entertainment. The Avs this year are simply neither of these for me right now.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Agree with everyone saying it's not fun to watch Avs hockey this season.

It feels like a chore. Honestly, I'll probably not tune in for the Flames and Oilers games and get a good 3 week break from this garbage.

Ill admit ive watched more Oiler games then Avs games this season. Thats never happened in my life. Mainly because of Fourgiev. I came back when Blackwood arrived. Its not a priority anymore. I used to schedule my nights to watch the games live since I was 19.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Ill admit ive watched more Oiler games then Avs games this season. Thats never happened in my life. Mainly because of Fourgiev. I came back when Blackwood arrived. Its not a priority anymore. I used to schedule my nights to watch the games live since I was 19.

I'm deep in the sunk cost fallacy, it would probably be much better for my mental healthy to not get frustrated with a hockey team that I have no ability to have any effect on.

 

[drhiii]

This is great way to describe it. I feel obligated to watch because I always do, but I don't enjoy it. It's like doing the dishes or laundry. I do it because I need to, but it isn't fun.

And this sucks. Sports are are supposed to fun and entertainment. The Avs this year are simply neither of these for me right now.

Brother, with you.

 

[The Merchant]

I mean to be fair, before the trade the Avs scored 2 goals or less 6 times in January so it's not like they were scoring a ton with Mikko either.

Yeah the way I framed that was bad; wasn't intended to be a criticism of the trade itself. I still like the trade, personally. This team just has a major scoring problem.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

I don't miss the 14M he wanted. He was offered the highest winger contract ever, and rejected it. He didn't want to be here.

Not saying we don't need some better shooters, but 96 made his choice. I'd rather want players that want too be here and not the f*** the team with their contract demands.

I am missing the special skill that he brings with a hair trigger release and accuracy.

I grew tired of watching him trip over his own big feet every game.

It was as obvious as the ugly nose on my face that after the protracted negotiations, he wasn't going to be resigned. The Avs don't work that way. They make you a reasonable offer and if you reject it, then you are toast. Been that way for nearly 30 years.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

This is great way to describe it. I feel obligated to watch because I always do, but I don't enjoy it. It's like doing the dishes or laundry. I do it because I need to, but it isn't fun.

And this sucks. Sports are are supposed to fun and entertainment. The Avs this year are simply neither of these for me right now.

It's weird, because the 2017 team was terrible to watch, but it was almost so bad it was funny. Like those terrible B movie horrors. This team feels like you're watching the death of a relationship that you thought would be forever. It's sad, it's frustrating, it's just a bad time.

 

[chet1926]

Ill admit ive watched more Oiler games then Avs games this season. Thats never happened in my life. Mainly because of Fourgiev. I came back when Blackwood arrived. Its not a priority anymore. I used to schedule my nights to watch the games live since I was 19.

The Avs have always been my priority and I've scheduled my life around games for far too many years. I'm kind of over it if this is the consistent product. Losing is one thing, but this team is infuriating. It's constant shit efforts, bad coaching and bad losses. It's garbage.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

I'd like either Drury or Necas to center the second line next game. See if either of them can generate a spark of something even if just momentarily.

Something... anything....

There is NO reliable secondary scoring any longer. Even the D are inconsistent..... except, most of the time, Makar.

 

[chet1926]

It's weird, because the 2017 team was terrible to watch, but it was almost so bad it was funny. Like those terrible B movie horrors. This team feels like you're watching the death of a relationship that you thought would be forever. It's sad, it's frustrating, it's just a bad time.

2017 was rough, but I knew we were ass, so losing didn't bother me. I found things to cheer for that year too keep me entertained.

This year we should have been at least competitive and most nights we look like a C rate junior team with no cares in the world. It's f***ing pathetic.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Personally, I knew we were cooked after the first period.

We gave them everything we had and couldn’t score. Tocchet made his adjustments during the first intermission, Bednar had no response and we got caved in for the remainder of the game.

Wood looks like a guy who knows he is getting traded and just doesn’t give a f*** anymore.

It would be nice if he could take Colton with him. Two useless, sacks of shit costing us $6,500,000.

 

[forsbergavs32]

I’ve been watching every game I can since I could afford to purchase center ice and this team is hard to watch, but I survived the 16-17 season, I can survive this too.

That said…I highly doubt it, but if the next 2 games don’t go well, I wonder if they potentially use the Four Nations break to possibly look at a coaching change. It’s a 3 week break, enough time for the players not at the tournament to learn a new system, then 29, 8, 62, and 7 would have to catch up which should be doable.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

The Avs have always been my priority and I've scheduled my life around games for far too many years. I'm kind of over it if this is the consistent product. Losing is one thing, but this team is infuriating. It's constant shit efforts, bad coaching and bad losses. It's garbage.

Management has nearly destroyed this roster with it's decisions on Erik Johnson, Kadri, Nuke, Gabe and goaltending (the latter until the "Wood" Bros arrived). And the decisions made over the bottom 6 and 5 - 6. D.

It's not getting better. It's getting worse.

 

[dahrougem2]

I am missing the special skill that he brings with a hair trigger release and accuracy.

I grew tired of watching him trip over his own big feet every game.

It was as obvious as the ugly nose on my face that after the protracted negotiations, he wasn't going to be resigned. The Avs don't work that way. They make you a reasonable offer and if you reject it, then you are toast. Been that way for nearly 30 years.

You know what needs to happen? Someone needs to sit Nathan MacKinnon down and tell him there's no more Mikko Rantanen. You need to be this team's goal scorer.

Someone needs to scream at the guy and tell him he's not Adam f***ing Oates. Even the shots he takes most of the time it doesn't feel like he's trying to score. It feels like he is trying to create a rebound or hit a stick for a deflection.

No more do we make comparisons to Ovechkin on the PP when he used to WIRE pucks from the top circle. He simply refuses now. Well, Mikko ain't here to pot 50 off your feeds and Marty is a right shot.

Figure it out

 

[chet1926]

I’ve been watching every game I can since I could afford to purchase center ice and this team is hard to watch, but I survived the 16-17 season, I can survive this too.

That said…I highly doubt it, but if the next 2 games don’t go well, I wonder if they potentially use the Four Nations break to possibly look at a coaching change. It’s a 3 week break, enough time for the players not at the tournament to learn a new system, then 29, 8, 62, and 7 would have to catch up which should be doable.

Prepare to be disappointed no way in hell they fire Bednar. It's long overdue but it simply won't happen.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

I’ve been watching every game I can since I could afford to purchase center ice and this team is hard to watch, but I survived the 16-17 season, I can survive this too.

That said…I highly doubt it, but if the next 2 games don’t go well, I wonder if they potentially use the Four Nations break to possibly look at a coaching change. It’s a 3 week break, enough time for the players not at the tournament to learn a new system, then 29, 8, 62, and 7 would have to catch up which should be doable.

There will be no coaching change except possibly, off season. Even then. It's highly doubtful.