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Some crazy stuff by Sorokin from yesterday's Channel One Cup game:
G Ilya Sorokin (2014, 78th, NYI)
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So basically it sounds like he isn't coming over for next year but possibly the year after that in 2020.
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Stopped 19 shots for 7th shutout win of the season.
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Shestyorkin vs Sorokin is going to be a hell of a battle for a long time.
I hope so! That would mean the islander would have a franchise goalie and he actually came here!
They’re actually really close friends.
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He's having his best season in the last three seasons. He's at .940, which wouldn't be his career high, but reaching .953 again is unrealistic, and .940 is plenty good.
The question I have for those who've watched him play extensively this season is how his positioning looks. I've always felt like thats what he's going to need to work on. He's not crazy raw, like Samsonov, but in recent years he's had big positioning problems that I think have kept him from playing better than he's capable of. The Russian National Team goalie coach also criticized the technical coaching he was getting at CSKA in recent years, so I don't know if thats improved or not.
I've only seen him play once this season, and he played really well. Positioning looked better, but I can't judge entirely on one game if he's improved his positioning.
The question I have for those who've watched him play extensively this season is how his positioning looks. I've always felt like thats what he's going to need to work on. He's not crazy raw, like Samsonov, but in recent years he's had big positioning problems that I think have kept him from playing better than he's capable of. The Russian National Team goalie coach also criticized the technical coaching he was getting at CSKA in recent years, so I don't know if thats improved or not.
I've only seen him play once this season, and he played really well. Positioning looked better, but I can't judge entirely on one game if he's improved his positioning.
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I have not seen him play in the KHL other than the viewing of highlights, but one thing about him is he has raw talent. And with Mitch Korn with the Isles now. I would be surprised if Korn is not consulting him on positioning and what to expect in the NHL. This is why I am very high, if not already expecting he will be the Isles #1G in the future very soon. Isles have quite a few Goaltending prospects. But I believe Sorokin is their Goalie of the future.
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One thing about Lamoriello with his Russian connections with experiences with Fetisov, and Kovy. I believe if he wants Sorokin, he will find a way to get him out his KHL contract. One can call it Lou's loopholes. But money is often the sweetner in these type of transactions. This Isles ownership group are not shy of spending money to improve the franchise.
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That is a good thing, right?
I am happy for Sorokin and like to root for him. I somehow doubt he ever plays for the islanders though. He seems too successful and happy in his home country.
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careful friend, the rangers might get Kaako or Hughes relatively soon...Isles have a superstar #1C in Barzal already in place.
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Of those three comparisons, I think I'd take the Ranger in two of the three, but the Isles have a lot more depth in their prospect pool, they have a 1C and they have one of the best coaches in the NHL.
The Isles are certainly ahead for now.
The Isles are certainly ahead for now.
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Rangers just started rebuilding and committing to getting younger. They’re off too a good start with some of their picks from trading off McD Miller and Nash.
It's really difficult to know what to make of this. If I had to choice to sign Lehner for 2 years and get Sorokin in the second year, I'd do that. If forced between signing Lehner for 4-5 years and an alternative, I seriously consider the alternative because i think that's too big a risk.
Lehner has been great, but he's basically split time with Greiss this season. I really worry about him getting #1 money over term.
But this is all speculation. I don't understand how it is possible that Sorokin would leave CSKA at the end of the year.
Lehner has been great, but he's basically split time with Greiss this season. I really worry about him getting #1 money over term.
But this is all speculation. I don't understand how it is possible that Sorokin would leave CSKA at the end of the year.
I think If you're the islanders... Greiss and Lehner offer you the same thing. A stop gap for Sorokin to take the reins. Either is fine, and you probably don't need both.
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I think I’d use the term “system goalie” in the least offensive way possible to describe what Lehner/Griess have been able to do. It’s clear they benefit from the way Trotz’ system is construced and how Korn/Greco work on their games to play within that system. I’d be weary of signing Lehner to 4+ years especially when Sorokin is clearly showing interest in coming to NA a year before his deal even expires.
Well his NA agent was on LI to meet with Lamoriello, so unless that guy represents other Islanders with impending contracts, I’d say it’s more smoke than speculation (unless that is the same thing to some people).
He just has to buy out the last year of his contract, which he can do before the season “ends”.
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I agree there's smoke, but it's also possible that they are planing for the Fall of 2020 as opposed to the Fall of 2019.
At any rate, I'd be very happy with a Sorokin/Greiss combo. Sure it's a risk, but I think we agree that Lehner over 4+ is a really big risk.
