G Ilya Samsonov (2015, 22nd, WSH)

[LastWordArmy]

Not sure how there wasnt already a thread on him.

We have him at 31st overall, the highest rated goalie on our draft board.

Hes the Number 1 Euro Goalie on NHL Central Scouting too.

Here is the scouting report.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2015/05/01/2015-nhl-draft-profile-31-ilya-samsonov/

Click to read more...

 

[hockeey]

How does he compare to previously drafted russian goalies like shestyorkin and sorokin?

 

[Caser]

How does he compare to previously drafted russian goalies like shestyorkin and sorokin?

Poor man's Vasilevskiy comparision sounds better to me.

 

[LastWordArmy]

Poor man's Vasilevskiy comparision sounds better to me.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Very good prospect... worth a 2nd round pick easily

 

[timlap]

Brief interview with Samsonov about this past season and his summer plans.

http://mhl.khl.ru/en/news/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=389163

 

[Zman5778]

For whatever this is worth:

Sabres GM Tim Murray just gave a radio interview. After a bit of chatting with the hosts about the goaltending situation in Buffalo, he said something kind of revealing about Samsonov:


The radio host prompted Murray that they had talked to Craig Button earlier, and he liked the idea of Samsonov to Buffalo at either pick 21 or 31.

Murray confirmed that "we have him in that area too".

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

And Murray is one of those guys who usually does not draft Russians, right? Pretty interesting.

 

[Moskau]

And Murray is one of those guys who usually does not draft Russians, right? Pretty interesting.

Yep.

I made the point the other day on the Sabres board that Samsonov must make Murray's head spin. Tim Murray is very candid on what he likes in a goaltender and Samsonov fits everything to a T. He's Tim Murray's perfect goaltender... but he's Russian. I think choosing not to come to the combine could have hurt his chances however.

 

[Superpest]

Weird thinking of a player named Samsonov being a goalie and not a swift winger

 

[Bernier the Boats]

For whatever this is worth:

Sabres GM Tim Murray just gave a radio interview. After a bit of chatting with the hosts about the goaltending situation in Buffalo, he said something kind of revealing about Samsonov:


The radio host prompted Murray that they had talked to Craig Button earlier, and he liked the idea of Samsonov to Buffalo at either pick 21 or 31.

Murray confirmed that "we have him in that area too".

I like Murray's eye for the most part. I think Samsonov is one of the best goaltending prospects we've seen in years. Truly worthy of a late 1st.

 

[CaseyMitts37]

It sounds like he has a computer generated NHL video game name

 

[seafoam]

It sounds like he has a computer generated NHL video game name

From Estonia

 

[tony d]

Could be the first goalie picked this year, seems like he'll be a good 1.

 

[Woodhouse]

19th in TSN's final rankings.

Combines essential elements of size and athletic ability to be imposing in the net and make scoring difficult. He is very aware and reads the play well and is quick to close down the net. An ultra competitor who never gives up on a play. With normal technical refinement, he can become a star.

http://www.tsn.ca/ilya-samsonov-goalie-1.294109

 

[Torts]

Shame CHL doesn't let euro goalies come over any more. (No hate, I'm all for developing home grown goalies) However it seems he would develop better in CHL rather than MHL.

Just my opinion of course.

EDIT: Wasn't sure if he is going to play MHL or KHL. KHL would be great for development. My bad, eliteprospects said he will play in MHL next season hence my comment.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Has 2 year commitment to his team in Russia according to Bobby Mac:

http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-the-ice/mckenzie-samsonov-oilers-may-be-good-draft-match/

“Very comparable to Andrei Vasilevskiy, who the Tampa Bay Lighting took in the first round a few years back, and a guy who – now, my understanding is he’s still got a two-year commitment to his Russian team.

 

[couture23]

A 2 year contract in Russia is perfect from a developmental standpoint. Vasilevskiy did the exact same.

 

[Joey Moss]

I wouldn't be opposed to the Oilers taking him at 16 if we decide to pick rather than trade.

 

[NHL Dude 120]

Why is he skipping the combine ??? is he injured

 

[Ho Borvat]

I wouldn't be opposed to the Oilers taking him at 16 if we decide to pick rather than trade.

If hes still on the board @ 23, I think it could make sense to try and trade up for Vancouvers pick (missing a 2nd and a 3rd).

Edmonton
23rd Overall --> Use to take Samsonov
Ryan Miller *If he would waive

Vancouver
33rd Pick
57th Pick
79th Pick

*I know Miller may not be the ideal target, but with him having 2 years on his deal and Samsonov being stuck overseas for the next 2 years, it could be a nice stop-gap until you get him to North America.

 

[Captain Clutch]

I have no idea whether Samsonov is any good or not, I presume the scouts and guys who sell fantasy hockey guides have a very positive opinion on him. My question is why the guy has been such a fast riser in the ranks as of late? Were the NHL teams on this guy the whole time and the prospect gurus were behind the curve and are now catching up or did Samsonov do something that warranted what appears to be 1st round draft status....all of the sudden?

Anyone have any insights on this?

 

[Fantomas]

I have no idea whether Samsonov is any good or not, I presume the scouts and guys who sell fantasy hockey guides have a very positive opinion on him. My question is why the guy has been such a fast riser in the ranks as of late? Were the NHL teams on this guy the whole time and the prospect gurus were behind the curve and are now catching up or did Samsonov do something that warranted what appears to be 1st round draft status....all of the sudden?

Anyone have any insights on this?

Most "prospect gurus" just rearticulate conventional wisdom. Right now it has become conventional wisdom to say that Samsonov is a first round prospect.

 

[Zine]

Why is he skipping the combine ??? is he injured

He probably wanted to complete his university exams instead.

 

[Paxon]

Most "prospect gurus" just rearticulate conventional wisdom. Right now it has become conventional wisdom to say that Samsonov is a first round prospect.

Fans and media seem to always have to find a goalie to place in the first round. Samsonov is imo the best goalie in the draft, so it makes sense that he's the one they zeroed in on. I don't think he's quite good enough to be using a 1st on myself, but it takes a lot for me to want to use a 1st on a goalie prospect (Vasilevski was probably the last one).