seems like you're the one losing sleep over a dime a dozen prospectWhatever helps you sleep better buddy
This puts into perspective the truth that players are worth different amounts to different teams, though value is often treated as a constant.To be clear, I'm perfectly okay letting Marner and Tavares walk. They've run their course here and I think there's enough evidence to support as a group they don't work when the games matter.
I just think if they do indeed leave that the Leafs are more likely to take a step back than get better and I hope people are prepared for that.
Well we will always have Scott Rotten.
This puts into perspective the truth that players are worth different amounts to different teams, though value is often treated as a constant.
Marner may be worth 12M to some teams, but how much is he worth to Toronto? Ranta was worth 12M to Canes and Stars, but not to Avs.
And these types of decisions aren't made on AAV rounding errors, they're significant.
Is it really likely that we take a step back opening up 22M (more factoring a Marner raise) to replace JT and Marner? This isn't the same thing as Oilers losing McD or Drai, or Avs losing Mack, or Tampa losing Kuch, or Bruins losing Pasta. The value to team is very different.
I'm more worried about our 2C than I am Marner (Avs probably feel good replacing 75% of their offensive quarterbacks + Necas), and ideally we dont have to after squeezing JT into a discount.
Marner isnt the offensive cornerstone of this team, and if he is, then it's all for naught anyways.
The common perception is Marner has another gear over Nylander and is better defensively. You may not agree but most do.What does it change there’s more marner fans in this thread then leaf fans lol
Why are Carlo, Tanev, Laughton, and OEL here?To be clear, I'm perfectly okay letting Marner and Tavares walk. They've run their course here and I think there's enough evidence to support as a group they don't work when the games matter.
I just think if they do indeed leave that the Leafs are more likely to take a step back than get better and I hope people are prepared for that.
Elite as long as the games don’t get rough. The real problem is we have 4 of those guys in the core eating up over 50% of the cap and that is a huge problem. Teams could absorb 1 player like that and be successful but not 4 as the last 8 years have shownThe common perception is Marner has another gear over Nylander and is better defensively. You may not agree but most do.
32 GM’s would pay more for Marner than Nylander. You can laugh at my popular opinion if you want but you and I both know it’s not because Marner has fans - he’s very unpopular. He’s also an elite winger
I think those 4 players are here under the false perception by management that the Leafs are an actual contenderWhy are Carlo, Tanev, Laughton, and OEL here?
So they can take a step back?
Well you can't undo it though. None of them were flipped at the deadline.I think those 4 players are here under the false perception by management that the Leafs are an actual contender
I agree that we can’t undo it. Mistakes were made and no going back. As far as them losing in the playoffs being “so what” you are absolutely correct. It is not a life altering event for any of us. It is however an annoyance for fans of a sports team especially when it has been the same year after year. What’s been consistent is every year the leafs flame out early, I get my hot rods out of the shop and enjoy a summer of fun.Well you can't undo it though. None of them were flipped at the deadline.
Every GM in the league attempts to win. Save for Boston. Everyone here keeps talking about TOR as though the season is over. Let's see how this plays out.
If TOR won every game post deadline, you wouldn't even see a thread like this.
What's the worst that can happen? They lose in the playoffs? So what.
He’s looking like a 30 goal power forwarsKnies is good, but he hasn't been anything superb this season. A bit of a letdown tbh.
Marner is 100% the offensive cornerstone of this team.Marner isnt the offensive cornerstone of this team, and if he is, then it's all for naught anyways.
I think you're wrong on this lol. If the Leafs happened to win the cup there would still be someone complaining about something. That's just the way it goes here. I don't know why I even open these threads because there's not much intelligent discussion anymore. The same people that are on here complaining about everything would be the first people riding the bandwagon when the leafs make a run at it.If TOR won every game post deadline, you wouldn't even see a thread like this.
Well i ll give pelley a chance .he may have more balls than it seemsHe should be sent packing along with Shanahan for saying "we are not here to sell jerseys" and then allowing Shanny to run this lousy loser core back again when fans were demanding change.
At a minimum, in the summer, they should have demanded Marner give them a list of teams he was willing to waive to. Instead it was business as usual only to have him piss them off by not willing to negotiate.
If he refused they should have told him there would be no offers and limited his ice time.
Don't worry, this thread will disappear if the Leafs win their next 4 games, and then re-appear when they lose another game after that.I think you're wrong on this lol. If the Leafs happened to win the cup there would still be someone complaining about something. That's just the way it goes here. I don't know why I even open these threads because there's not much intelligent discussion anymore. The same people that are on here complaining about everything would be the first people riding the bandwagon when the leafs make a run at it.
True enough.I think you're wrong on this lol. If the Leafs happened to win the cup there would still be someone complaining about something. That's just the way it goes here. I don't know why I even open these threads because there's not much intelligent discussion anymore. The same people that are on here complaining about everything would be the first people riding the bandwagon when the leafs make a run at it.
Loool show me proof of that that sounds like your opinion and your perspective doesn’t mean it’s wrong but that just doesn’t prove anything at all my friend you gotta do better than that Hes an elite forward that forgets Hes elite lol who wants that look at the second line we made for him last game specifically for him he gets catered to put him with Matthews put him with Tavares hell some people even want to put him with nylander sounds like the defensemen version of rielly only he can actually defendThe common perception is Marner has another gear over Nylander and is better defensively. You may not agree but most do.
32 GM’s would pay more for Marner than Nylander. You can laugh at my popular opinion if you want but you and I both know it’s not because Marner has fans - he’s very unpopular. He’s also an elite winger