To be clear, I'm perfectly okay letting Marner and Tavares walk. They've run their course here and I think there's enough evidence to support as a group they don't work when the games matter.
Our centre depth is thin as it stands. Moving 34 would take one big set of onions.
this is the year Leafs should have LTIR Matthews (until playoffs) and pick up another $13M player (in his spot) for the regular season. TB would have done this easily, I'm not sure why the Leafs are trying to make Matthews play thru injury to hobble into the playoffs? What benefit is that?
Too early for the Leafs to start a rebuild. I would look to move him the last year of his contract assuming he returns to his norm. Imagine letting 16 and 34 walk for nothing and being left with 88 for 4 more years.
Agree with all but I think you needed to include Knies. We needed to and he would have trumped Stankoven IMO.
Moving a 13.5M player that plays like a 7M second line center for young upcoming centers in Fantilli and Johnson or Harley and Johnston should in theory help the team win, but yeah.... it would take willingness from ownership (Matthews is highly marketable) and onions from the GM (if the deal goes south, he will forever be remembered.... not in a positive way).
Love to get Fantilli but jury is out whether 34 remains a $7m player. If you believe so, move him before everybody else figures it out.
I dont think they offered what I suggested above? I heard the leafs offered straight up swap for Marner.
I'd do that, but take away one of the 1sts (as Knies is clearly better than Minten).
so IMO that is gross negligence on Treliving - but the reality is this is the "last" go for it Roster Leafs have (we're at the Apex) - and letting Knies go had to be done (to get Rantanen).
Apparently the Leafs offer was two 1sts, Minten and Cowan.
If im Columbus Im keeping Fantilli (cost control, RFA). If Matthews were to be traded, the best partner would be Buffalo.
I didnt realize that sry.. so keep Minten and/or Cowan, replace with Knies and keep 1 of the firsts.,. That would have got it done. Rantanen would have guaranteed 2 powerful top 6 lines for the playoffs.
Babcock was a piece of of trash on how he handled the players. The one thing though is he held all of them accountable. He wasn’t afraid of benching anyone or bumping them to the 4th line. Once they let Babcock go all that accountable went out the window. The players controlled everything and continue to do that now.
What does it change there’s more marner fans in this thread then leaf fans lol
