GDT: Free Agent Frenzy

[Pavels Dog]

Some of this is right, but the division has improved a lot more. We have fallen behind. I could see us being last in the Atlantic

Buffalo’s done nothing
Montreal added prospects but are still years away
Ottawa got worse
Tampa got worse
Boston got worse
Florida TBD, if they lose Ekblad they could be worse (also possible cup hangover)
Toronto arguably got worse

 

[Henkka]

Wait, what did we lose exactly? Why are we worse?
Shouldn't we be bringing up some of the kids to learn their way?
Were we going to bring in a couple FAs and vie for the cup?

Reimer <> Talbot
Perron <> Berggren
Sprong <> Motte
Ghost <> Gustafsson
Walman <> Edvinsson

Those are pretty much the on-ice roster changes. We'll see if something happens on the RD side.

And Talbot should be the starter Goalie, not just a plug like Reimer was.


Ras - Larkin - Raymond
Cat - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Veleno - Berggren
Motte - Copp - Fischer
--------------------------
(Snively, Kasper,Mazur)

Chiarot - Seider
Edvinsson - Petry
Määttä - Gustafsson
--------------
Johansson - Holl
(Lagesson)

Talbot
Lyon/Husso

 

[SantosHalper]

Well shit.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808221663265272117

Exactly like i said, these types are hard to come by and when teams have it, they ain't letting them go. MBN's value only increases.

 

[Hockey Know it all]

Reimer <> Talbot
Perron <> Berggren
Sprong <> Motte
Ghost <> Gustafsson
Walman <> Edvinsson

Those are pretty much the on-ice roster changes. We'll if something happens on the RD side.

And Talbot should be the starter Goalie, not just a plug like Reimer was.


Ras - Larkin - Raymond
Cat - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Veleno - Berggren
Motte - Copp - Fischer
--------------------------
(Snively, Kasper,Mazur)

Chiarot - Seider
Edvinsson - Petry
Määttä - Gustafsson
--------------
Johansson - Holl
(Lagesson)

Talbot
Lyon/Husso

I agree with most of this post but I don’t understand Motte more or less equals Sprong. While Motte is great defensively, he is ATROCIOUS on offense. Even with Sprongs defensive decisions, his low time on ice plus his solid production far outweighs what Motte does defensively.

Also, PETRY is not a top 4 or top 6 Dman at this point. Johansson will 100% be playing over him.

 

[Macoun]

Reimer <> Talbot
Perron <> Berggren
Sprong <> Motte
Ghost <> Gustafsson
Walman <> Edvinsson

Those are pretty much the on-ice roster changes. We'll if something happens on the RD side.

And Talbot should be the starter Goalie, not just a plug like Reimer was.


Ras - Larkin - Raymond
Cat - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Veleno - Berggren
Motte - Copp - Fischer
--------------------------
(Snively, Kasper,Mazur)

Chiarot - Seider
Edvinsson - Petry
Määttä - Gustafsson
--------------
Johansson - Holl
(Lagesson)

Talbot
Lyon/Husso

This team doesn’t sniff the playoffs

 

[Vandalay Industries]

This team doesn’t sniff the playoffs

You probably said the same last year

 

[Pavels Dog]

I agree with most of this post but I don’t understand Motte more or less equals Sprong. While Motte is great defensively, he is ATROCIOUS on offense. Even with Sprongs defensive decisions, his low time on ice plus his solid production far outweighs what Motte does defensively.

Also, PETRY is not a top 4 or top 6 Dman at this point. Johansson will 100% be playing over him.

This team needs defense more than offense.

 

[Henkka]

I agree with most of this post but I don’t understand Motte more or less equals Sprong. While Motte is great defensively, he is ATROCIOUS on offense. Even with Sprongs defensive decisions, his low time on ice plus his solid production far outweighs what Motte does defensively.

Yeah, you are right.

But imo, this team had too much offensive only players at last season, after Kane arrived. Now when we are having full season of Kane, we don't need Sprong.

This team needs to be better defensively, and Tyler Motte definitely will bring that mindset in. It's not just the single individual, he will affect on other players too.

He was a 1st PK penalty killer for Tampa at last year. Icetimes:

Compher 2:28
Copp 2:20
Motte 2:11 (2nd most at Tampa after Glendening)
Rasmussen 1:47
Larkin 1:32
Veleno 0:50
Fischer 0:47

I think this move will drop Compher off from the 1st PK unit, and we can use him more on offensive situations. Copp and Motte are pure PK specialists, finally we have two. Never thought Compher is a PK specialist, just ok defensively.

People praise Christian Fischer about his PK, but he rarely even plays there.

When 2nd PK could be built around Rasmussen-Compher, it also takes Larkin almost totally out from PK, and we can use him for offence-only. Put Larkin 1:32 PK ice-time to offensive situations, and we'll score more.

1.PK Copp - Motte
2.PK Ras - Compher
3.PK Veleno - Fischer

 

[Macoun]

Yeah, you are right.

But imo, this team had too much offensive only players at last season, after Kane arrived. Now when we are having full season of Kane, we don't need Sprong.

This team needs to be better defensively, and Tyler Motte definitely will bring that mindset in. It's not just the single individual, he will affect on other players too.

He was a 1st PK penalty killer for Tampa at last year. Icetimes:

Compher 2:28
Copp 2:20
Motte 2:11 (2nd most at Tampa after Glendening)
Rasmussen 1:47
Larkin 1:32
Veleno 0:50
Fischer 0:47

I think this move will drop Compher off from the 1st PK unit, and we can use him more on offensive situations. Copp and Motte are pure PK specialists, finally we have two. Never thought Compher is a PK specialist, just ok defensively.

People praise Christian Fischer about his PK, but he rarely even plays there.

When 2nd PK could be built around Rasmussen-Compher, it also takes Larkin almost totally out from PK, and we can use him for offence-only. Put Larkin 1:32 PK ice-time to offensive situations, and we'll score more.

1.PK Copp - Motte
2.PK Ras - Compher
3.PK Veleno - Fischer

I agree Larkin should never be playing that much on the PK

 

[Snuggs]

This team needs defense more than offense.

This team just sacrificed the only thing it was actually good at to get minimally better at defense. Red Wings are not a defensive stalwart because they signed Motte,Gust,Talbot.

Scoring goals, Red Wings held their own vs every good team in the league, they just needed to tighten up defensively.

They were 9th on the PP, 9th most goals per game. 25th or 24 in goals against at 3.33 per game. A good goalie could have shaved that number down with the same band in town.

Idk what's going on at all outside of Yzerman/Organization is hoping/trying to find someone in the draft to change things. Hopefully Edvinsson/Kasper/Danielson walk in and perform at very high levels.

Yzerman traded for DeBrincat late last year, maybe he's got a rabbit in the hat, Oilers need to hire a GM, Maybe Bowman will get hired and Yzerman/Bowman can rock the hockey world with a Draisaitl deal.

I really want to read something and be like "YEAH!" lol. I'm having a difficult time being a fan lately!

 

[Run the Jewels]

Shane Pinto signed with Ottawa so it looks like reports of him demanding a trade were wrong.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

Reimer <> Talbot
Perron <> Berggren
Sprong <> Motte
Ghost <> Gustafsson
Walman <> Edvinsson

Those are pretty much the on-ice roster changes. We'll if something happens on the RD side.

And Talbot should be the starter Goalie, not just a plug like Reimer was....

I would add to this quickly:

- Probably safe to assume to some degree that 2024 Raymond will be better than 2025 Raymond and hopefully take another step. The same assumption can be made for Seider and Edvinsson.

- We just watched Berggren absolutely demolish the AHL, by and far the best offensive player on our team, and probably near the top in the league with 24g and 56pt in 53 games as well as dominate in the playoffs with clutch play after play - the last time we had someone like this was Nyquist and before that Hudler as an overripe AHL prospect (coincidently, both of them were considered soft and weak as well).

In both extended stints over the last two years, Burger has been a ..near a 0.5ppg guy? - Burger is 23, Gus was 23-24, Huds was 22-23. Don't sleep on Berggren after that last season in the AHL, to step and match Sprong, if not outright Perron's production. We overlook him and write him off, but he should be a really nice middle six, skilled winger with 50-60pt upside as he matures over the next few years. Berggren is good and competitive, and capable. He needs the opportunity and space and letting the corpse of David Perron and plug Sprong to bow out and not find a stopgap 2yr vet to take that spot, leaves that opportunity for him to step in.

At this point, I don't think we need to add to our offense with the assumption that Berggren is taking a larger role. We've rounded out our bottom six with Motte. The only difference I would make to what you've laid out is that I think Fabbri finds himself in the Top 6 and the Burger - Copp - Ras line ends up being the 3rd line; with Fisher, Veleno, Mott as the 4th.

Our offense - as in our forwards - is not worse. That is hyperbole. We have Kane all year and hopefully working to build himself back up with the offseason. We have Raymond follow his breakout in the 2nd half and into the Worlds and I truly believe in Berggren as Nyquist 2.0 who is taking a full time role. Combined with Motte to take off some of the burden of PK and tougher defensive assignments, we should be better than we were last year.

 

[RedHawkDown]

One thing to remember is the Wings sky high shooting percentage as a team last year. That won’t happen again.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

“We have Kane all year” is an assumption that I’m shocked so many people are comfortable making. Personally I’d bet we get something like 120 games between Kane and Larkin.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

 

[Run the Jewels]

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Yeah, I didn't like the Holl contract one bit. I am also a bit concerned about how many goalies we have signed. I kind of understand what Yzerman was doing trying to address a clear weakness through sheer numbers but it is a headache.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

Man, it sure would be nice to have one of those things where yzerman talks to reporters and they can ask him stuff.

Like Stevie, give Daniella a call. She’s nice and will let you explain.

 

[RRhoads]

Yeah, I didn't like the Holl contract one bit. I am also a bit concerned about how many goalies we have signed. I kind of understand what Yzerman was doing trying to address a clear weakness through sheer numbers but it is a headache.

Going with 3 goalies is a necessity when one of them is named Husso.

No need to count Campbell. He will be in GR.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

It seems like they're making the 4th line more of a shutdown line this time around, probably in preparation of an offensive 3rd line with Berggren and a kid.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

Yeah, I didn't like the Holl contract one bit. I am also a bit concerned about how many goalies we have signed. I kind of understand what Yzerman was doing trying to address a clear weakness through sheer numbers but it is a headache.

I don't think he is remotely done on the defense or goalie situation. I think at least 1 more D heads out the door, and Husso has his bags packed and is awaiting further instructions while Campbell is getting fitted for a Griffins jersey.

Seider
Edvinsson
Chiarot
Johansson
Gustafsson
(mystery Defenseman)

and 2 out of the following: Holl, Petry, Mattaa,

 

[Run the Jewels]

Going with 3 goalies is a necessity when one of them is named Husso.

No need to count Campbell. He will be in GR.

Good point. I'd assume Campbell can be called up if necessary like last season when Lyon was overextended and Husso was injured. It will be nice if/when Cossa and/or Augustine are able to become reliable NHL goaltenders.

It seems like they're making the 4th line more of a shutdown line this time around, probably in preparation of an offensive 3rd line with Berggren and a kid.

We've got $20 mil in cap space and need to sign Mo and Ray. I'm not sure we'll have enough cap space to fill out 12-13 forward spots without relying on a bunch of guys on ELCs. How much is Berggren expecting for his new deal? Sure, we can move some salary off the cap, but as we saw with Walman, it is expensive to do so.

 

[19 for president]

I do like the idea of getting another PK specialist for this team. I want Larkin off the PK if at all possible. He shouldn't be blocking shots and taking the hardest defensive minutes.

We need one of Ras or Compher to get their FO% decent enough to run the 2nd unit with Fisher being the fill in guy.

I think Joey V might end up as the odd man our with Danielson, Kasper, Mazur, and Soderblom competing for a spot.

I hated Cat and Kane together last year. Cat was a much more effective player with Larkin and Ray. He didn't score as much as I'd like but he helped create a bunch of offense & is an underrated passer.

Put Berggy and Kane together and hope they can do a bunch of damage offensively, because defensively that line is going to be IIIICCK.

Cat - Larkin - Raymond
Berggren- Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Ras - Kasper/Mazur
Motte - Copp - Fischer
--------------------------

Blargh on this defense. Lets hope that we still add someone. I think Holl gets waived and sent to GR. Maatta gets moved if we sign someone else. Petry/Aljo rotate as the 6th/7th if we do.

Chiarot - Seider
Edvinsson - Petry
Määttä - Gustafsson
--------------
Johansson - Holl
(Lagesson)


If we deal Husso maybe we keep 8 d up.
Talbot
Lyon/Husso

 

[Pavels Dog]

This team just sacrificed the only thing it was actually good at to get minimally better at defense. Red Wings are not a defensive stalwart because they signed Motte,Gust,Talbot.

Scoring goals, Red Wings held their own vs every good team in the league, they just needed to tighten up defensively.

They were 9th on the PP, 9th most goals per game. 25th or 24 in goals against at 3.33 per game. A good goalie could have shaved that number down with the same band in town.

Idk what's going on at all outside of Yzerman/Organization is hoping/trying to find someone in the draft to change things. Hopefully Edvinsson/Kasper/Danielson walk in and perform at very high levels.

Yzerman traded for DeBrincat late last year, maybe he's got a rabbit in the hat, Oilers need to hire a GM, Maybe Bowman will get hired and Yzerman/Bowman can rock the hockey world with a Draisaitl deal.

I really want to read something and be like "YEAH!" lol. I'm having a difficult time being a fan lately!

I think Yzerman was/is working on a trade to shore up D even further (Trouba/Ekblad). Other than that if you don’t think any of our prospects will be any good then you’ve already given up on the rebuild. Absolutely we should hope Edvinsson is ready to make a real difference and one of Kasper/Mazur/Danielson can contribute at a solid level.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Buffalo’s done nothing
Montreal added prospects but are still years away
Ottawa got worse
Tampa got worse
Boston got worse
Florida TBD, if they lose Ekblad they could be worse (also possible cup hangover)
Toronto arguably got worse

boston absolutely did not get worse. they’ll be better next season

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Any further word regarding a press conference?

When did he hold it in 2023?