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TL;DR: Bernmeister in his infinite wisdom thinks that Nieves and Kreider have "ultimate synergy" due to the fact that..... well just because they do and because bernmeister says so.
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TL;DR: Bernmeister in his infinite wisdom thinks that Nieves and Kreider have "ultimate synergy" due to the fact that..... well just because they do and because bernmeister says so.
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My argument would be different - if DD51 centered Kreider and Buch for a big chunk of the season, why not Nieves? #logic
He is not entitled to anything.
I am saying however, that he is here, Kreider is here, and that alone is a solid basis to experiment for a reasonable period of time, 5 wks min IMO.
If there is no chemistry between them, then by all means, Nieves can fight for whatever position he earns.
Be just as he deserves that, he also deserves a fair shot at chemistry w/Kreider.
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It's been proven that he didn't "inflate" his point values at the end of the year. That team was devoid of talent and happened to perform well after the UFA's were dealt
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David Desharnais, for all the shit he gets thrown at him, is a better player than Nieves.
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But why the experiment with Kreider and Nieves? What have they shown ever to warrant this? Because it's nothing other than your personal preference. We might as well try Howden at center with Kreider on his left, then. Because it makes as much sense.
Trying Lias at RW with Zib makes sense because they played some good games together 2 months ago. They were on the same line several times and Lias actually looked really good against pro hockey players in that role. Now that, actually has merit.
Nieves has not shown anything to deserve a shot with Kreider. They never played together. There is no chemistry/synergy etc. It's all in your head.
He wouldn't be extended based on one year.....in previous seasons he was basically a set-up guy with speedy wingers...all a fast winger needs is a split second or two to break away from a defender and his ability to maintain control of the puck for that split second or two was invaluable. Last season, he did the same when his wingers were Grabner and Miller....but AV (in his infinite wisdom) kept breaking them up and used him in more of a checking role. I think it's to his credit that he was able to continue producing while being used differently. Can't think of many players on this team that could (or did) do the same.
This is accurate, and I just want to remind that the notion of moving Zib and Lias is predicated on making a haul or strategic acquisition, not to reduce our pivot depth without a reason.
St. Lou has since gotten ROR, so it is no longer applicable. But when proposed, there was an idea of Zib + for Parayko+.
If we could do Lias/+ for Habs 2019 1st unprotected possibly + Juulsen, why not? We have Chytil as our go to.
I never claimed to have infinite wisdom, just a broader perspective, which is not always wrong, despite what some say.
On paper, Nieves and Kreider work.
I admit that is only on paper, but still, it works on paper.
No effin excuse not to try it.
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I'm not gonna detail it again.
Very short:
All Nieves has to do is be a facilitator betw. CK and the ideal RW [ultimately at this pt Krav, even though he shoots left].
He checks off the rest of what is needed
faceoffs
adequate or better D
has size, speed, toughness to go into corners
he is NOT a polished passer, but in limited opportunity with Buch, demonstrated basic ability to get him the puck.
Also, it would be smart not to let Kreider be the only one tipping in goals and getting beaten up in front of net. Not inclined to think Nieves has that level of stickhandling skill, but if there is so much speed on that line that room is being created.....
connect the dots.
Just give it 5 weeks.
I am serious, bern. Explain why they work on paper. I am curious.
All Nieves has to do is be a facilitator betw. CK and the ideal RW
that plus balance of my post
Some guys are being adamant about a finished MacKinnon type or other as the only solution. Sure, that would be nice, and if that were available, I would want to try that as well.
But it is not.
What I suggested is available.
Try it, you'll like it.
Worst that can happen is I was wrong, and I gotta hear it from you guys even more than I already am.
But if I'm right, while the shoe may then go on the other foot, our beloved Rangers will benefit.
5 weeks for a legit, dedicated effort to examine the premise, no bs.
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Are we talking about Nieves, Fogarty, Lias, Chytil, Howden? Because this applies, to different degrees, to all the centers we have in our system. And using toughness for Nieves is a stretch. And is he really that great at faceoffs? Fogarty is better at faceoffs.
I am trying to connect the dots but I don't see how
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my favorite part is he says hes not a great passer but would be able to get krieder the puck
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I was being facetious with that post after RB introduced (and kept repeating) the inflation argument.
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Let’s put Cody ‘’the sniper’’ Mcleod on the top line while we’re at it. f*** it let’s giving top power play time. These boards are unbelievable some times. How about giving Kampfer 30 minutes a night while you’re at it.
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Thinking boo is an excellent candidate for some fresh coaching to pick up his game. Book it!
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u kno its offseason when the entire thread is memeing bern on his nieves schtick
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f***!!! I walked right into that one hahahaha. I want McColgan to get a chance, man. Loved him when he was in the WHL and when we drafted him, I knew he'd be great, but he never got a chance. Can we sign him and give him 5 weeks with Kreider and Zibanejad? I feel McColgan has great synergy with Zibanejad. It just looks great on paper. Ticks all the boxes.
Another factor is Zibanejad.
Ziba have talked some about his concussions. His time off haven’t been precautionary. He have had issues. He is a big center. He doesn’t make a play and get out of the way like the 5’10 guys. He isn’t so big that he can make a play and put his stick up to deter runs.
The next time he get a concussion it will be a few months off, at least. Another while to get going. Like if you have big issues, it’s scary, so many have problems getting going again.
Ziba isn’t old. RHS. Why is he mentioned in trade rumors? Have our doctors been concerned with his concussion problems? No matter what it’s an issue.
Ziba should get all kind of time and opportunity offensively for us next season. He was darn good in the WCH with Rickard Rackell. There are a lot of scouts and GMs at the WCH. It’s a big scene. He was darn good for us late in the year with Kreider. 15 pts in 14 games in March.
Zibanejad is better than RyJo. What could Ziba fetch in a trade if he starts the year like he ended last season? I don’t think Gorts closing the door on that option. Chytil/Andersson/Hayes/Howden. If there was no concussion concerns you keep Ziba, but there is...
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I swear Bern is an AI bot. Not even trying to scale the AI learning curve. This is the final form and the sole purpose is to screw with us.
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