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Speculation: Free Agent Frenzy Part III - Will EK stay or will EK go?

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Go Away Staal said:
We need more assets.

Cap space is THE asset but if you don't use it, it's really not. If you don't like the Toronto example, Arizona did this too and got some pretty nice pieces out of it.

Again, who is Callahan going to prevent them from signing?
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Everyone needs more assets. The Rangers can get assets by trading their own players. Hayes is probably on the block. Spooner is probably on the block. Zuccarello probably gets moved at the deadline. Etc That's how you get assets. They still have moves to make.

Callahan takes almost 6m out of the equation. I want that money available in case they need it. So the Rangers dont have to worry about creating space. The easiest thing to do is say no
 
BTW I don't think Callahan would be moved. It would be Ryan going to the Rangers.

but even then, what assets could make that tempting?
 
Go Away Staal said:
If they're talking to a team on his approved list, they don't need to approach his team about anything.
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My point is he has not been asked to submit that list yet. So Yzerman does not know yet where he would be willing to go.
 
Savant said:
Everyone needs more assets. The Rangers can get assets by trading their own players. Hayes is probably on the block. Spooner is probably on the block. Zuccarello probably gets moved at the deadline. Etc That's how you get assets. They still have moves to make.

Callahan takes almost 6m out of the equation. I want that money available in case they need it. So the Rangers dont have to worry about creating space. The easiest thing to do is say no
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Those moves would also open up additional space.

Again, taking on Callahan doesn't hamstring them in any way shape or form.
 
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Go Away Staal said:
Those moves would also open up additional space.

Again, taking on Callahan doesn't hamstring them in any way shape or form.
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More cap space is not a bad thing. My point is that the Rangers can acquire more assets with what they have on the roster, and not have to eat a bad contract to do. Taking a bad contract hamstrings them. Its 6m extra that they wouldnt have. That's the definition of hamstringing them.
 
Go Away Staal said:
Why would it be Ryan?

He isn't Tampa Bay property and they're the ones who need to clear the cap space, Not Ottawa.
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Because Ottawa would be looking to dump that salary and that'd be their only chance for their shitty owner

I'd think TB would trade someone with value to get draft picks/prospects back. Johnson, Palat Killorn, Miller etc.
 
GregSirico said:
On XM Sirius they are discussing Tyler Johnson coming back to the Rangers.
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That makes no sense, Johnson’s full NTC kicked in on July 1st. Yzerman had his window with the Tavares sweepstakes. Highly doubt TJ would waive to come to a rebuilding team.
 
duhmetreE said:
BTW I don't think Callahan would be moved. It would be Ryan going to the Rangers.

but even then, what assets could make that tempting?
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Carpinello already said that the Rangers have no interest in taking on Ryan’s contract. If they’re involved, it would be a contract coming from TB.
 
duhmetreE said:
Because Ottawa would be looking to dump that salary and that'd be their only chance for their ****ty owner
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Okay but it doesn't make any sense on Tampa's end for a Karlsson deal.

Ottawa may want to get rid of Ryan, but Tampa would need to clear a body.

Plus the Rangers aren't taking on that contract. If they're involved it's going to be Cally. He's not only expendable for Tampa but also makes the most sense for them to move (and of the no trade guys, probably the "easiest" to move.)
 
Tawnos said:
Callahan wouldn’t still be around when your “just in case” scenario cropped up.
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Yes he would. He is around in Summer 2019, when the Rangers want to spend (at least on Panarin). Who knows what else comes available. Not the best example, but Mike Hoffman became available for nothing but a cap dump. Obviously there were (unproven) circumstances around that, but players become available out of no where. No reason to waste cap.
 
jas said:
Carpinello already said that the Rangers have no interest in taking on Ryan’s contract. If they’re involved, it would abe a contract coming from TB.
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what would TB give us to help them become a super team? A team we will have to face for 5+ years.. What would be worth it?

Upgrading a conditional 1st to a guaranteed 1st is not worth it, especially considering they would be the favorites to win the cup. What prospects would be left that don't go to OTT?

The proposition needs to be tantalizing for us...
 
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duhmetreE said:
what would TB give us to help them become a super team? A team we will have to face for 5+ years.. What would be worth it?

Upgrading a conditional 1st to a guaranteed 1st is not worth it, especially considering they would be the favorites to win the cup. What prospects would be left that don't go to OTT?
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That’s the $64,000 question.
 
duhmetreE said:
Because Ottawa would be looking to dump that salary and that'd be their only chance for their ****ty owner

I'd think TB would trade someone with value to get draft picks/prospects back. Johnson, Palat Killorn, Miller etc.
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All guys who have NTC's except for Miller who has one that kicks in next year.

I don't know that Yzerman would trade a guy a few weeks after signing him.
 
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