Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

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I mean... he acquired Ullmark and got rid of Korpisalo in a single transaction...

From a team that was barely able to sign 1 goalie

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Things I’d imagine would be seen as a plus for Cozens over Norris

2 years younger
1 mill cheaper AAV
1 year extra under contract
2.5 million less in real dollars per year for the next 4 years
Bigger
NTC further away
No injury history close to Norris, he’s missed 130 games over the past 4 seasons

Better 5on5 producer as well, but I attribute a big part of that to Buffalo's unstructured run and gun system that allows speedy forwards to thrive (If anything that's a red flag for Cozens, as he's basically a speedy not very smart forward and still not producing well).

 

[DackellDuck]

From a team that was barely able to sign 1 goalie

From a team in the division who had a goalie that was in-demand around the league while managing to ditch a very bad contract and terrible goalie.

Convincing someone to take on 4 more years of Korpisalo is something no one here thought could be done.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

There's always resources. Don't need to make apologies for him. He runs this team. There's always a way

I mean, no, there really aren't very many resources at all in terms of picks and prospects. You can blame Dorion for that, almost entirely so in fact.

Not that I think Staios has done a great job so far, but you can't pull picks out of your ass no matter who you are lol.

 

[DackellDuck]

My prediction is we get Donato for a 2nd and 3rd (same price as Toffoli last year) but he comes with an extension (3x4M). Brady helps convince him to sign (his wife is Donato's cousin).

He's well liked in Chicago so they send him to a team that's willing to reward him for his good season. He gets his first real payday and a bit of security. Staios makes his trade deadline and UFA acquisition in one go. And depending on how the rest of the year goes, he gets some insurance if he decides to move Norris or Batherson this summer. We hope Donato can be a similar under-the-radar add that MacArthur was.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

The Laughton prophecy will be fulfilled.

 

[BigRig4]

My prediction is we get Donato for a 2nd and 3rd (same price as Toffoli last year) but he comes with an extension (3x4M).

He's well liked in Chicago so they send him to a team that's willing to reward him for his good season. He gets his first real payday and a bit of security. Staios makes his trade deadline and UFA acquisition in one go. We hope Donato can be a similar under-the-radar add that MacArthur was.

I’d be so pumped if this was the case

 

[Ouroboros]

The Laughton prophecy will be fulfilled.

Laughton for Yakemchuk.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I mean, no, there really aren't very many resources at all in terms of picks and prospects. You can blame Dorion for that, almost entirely so in fact.

Not that I think Staios has done a great job so far, but you can't pull picks out of your ass no matter who you are lol.

And if he pays the high prices with their barren pool of assets, he'll be criticized just the same. No win situation imo.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Another Vegas 1st rounder on the scrap heap.

Vegas isn't all that great at drafting.

Brisson is a bust, so a 3rd for Smith ain't that bad considering the insane prices right now.

 

[BondraTime]

And if he pays the high prices with their barren pool of assets, he'll be criticized just the same. No win situation imo.

He’s stuck in a catch 22. He’s going to be criticized if he doesn’t add someone, and he’s going to be criticized if he gives up things to get someone.

He’s in a lose-lose, the only pieces he can afford without giving up very valuable assets are guys who are no different than what they have now.

 

[ottawagm]

Staios isn't going to do anything guys. Just put that thought out of your head. He doesn't have the creativity or instincts required

Are we sure that he knows it's the trade deadline?

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

My prediction is we get Donato for a 2nd and 3rd (same price as Toffoli last year) but he comes with an extension (3x4M). Brady helps convince him to sign (his wife is Donato's cousin).

He's well liked in Chicago so they send him to a team that's willing to reward him for his good season. He gets his first real payday and a bit of security. Staios makes his trade deadline and UFA acquisition in one go. And depending on how the rest of the year goes, he gets some insurance if he decides to move Norris or Batherson this summer. We hope Donato can be a similar under-the-radar add that MacArthur was.

It's a good prediction, but I think it's too low in terms of cost. It's not impossible, Chicago could mis-time the market, but it seems too low given what other players are going for.

Maybe we give up Ostapchuk and a 2nd instead of a 1st?

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Things I’d imagine would be seen as a plus for Cozens over Norris

2 years younger
1 mill cheaper AAV
1 year extra under contract
2.5 million less in real dollars per year for the next 4 years
Bigger
NTC further away
No injury history close to Norris, he’s missed 130 games over the past 4 seasons

Things seen as a negative:

Significantly worse player.

I find it hilarious that Peterka, Tuch, and Cozens keep getting thrown around on this forum as players to target. These guys make up the worst team in the Eastern Conference, and somehow trading out someone like Norris or Pinto for one of them is going to make our team better? I highly doubt it.

You'd think if Buffalo had all these golden assets they'd be a much better team.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Not that I think our management will ask Hamonic to waive his NMC, but I wonder what he could fetch at half retained given the price of rentals this draft

they definitely should be asking him if they can get a 3rd for him

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

He’s stuck in a catch 22. He’s going to be criticized if he doesn’t add someone, and he’s going to be criticized if he gives up things to get someone.

He’s in a lose-lose, the only pieces he can afford without giving up very valuable assets are guys who are no different than what they have now.

He really is. Not to mention the cap issue. I'm not expecting anything. Maybe a warm body for a mid to low pick.

 

[DackellDuck]

It's a good prediction, but I think it's too low in terms of cost. It's not impossible, Chicago could mis-time the market, but it seems too low given what other players are going for.

Maybe we give up Ostapchuk and a 2nd instead of a 1st?

Yeah I could see Ostapchuk being offered if a guy like Donato comes with an extension, or for another player with some term.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Given the rumours we're looking for a fighter who can drop the gloves instead having to have Brady do it, do we put in a claim for Reaves?

 

[stempniaksen]

My prediction is we get Donato for a 2nd and 3rd (same price as Toffoli last year) but he comes with an extension (3x4M). Brady helps convince him to sign (his wife is Donato's cousin).

He's well liked in Chicago so they send him to a team that's willing to reward him for his good season. He gets his first real payday and a bit of security. Staios makes his trade deadline and UFA acquisition in one go. And depending on how the rest of the year goes, he gets some insurance if he decides to move Norris or Batherson this summer. We hope Donato can be a similar under-the-radar add that MacArthur was.

Honestly, I'd give up more in the trade and give Donato a better contract (whether that's term or money or both) so I'm on board with this. Interesting tidbit about the family connection to Brady. Can't hurt to bring in more connections for our captain, especially if Staois' goal is to eventually unload Norris.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Given the rumours we're looking for a fighter who can drop the gloves instead having to have Brady do it, do we put in a claim for Reaves?

Not with that contract.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Vegas isn't all that great at drafting.

Brisson is a bust, so a 3rd for Smith ain't that bad considering the insane prices right now.

Brisson is probably worth a late pick at best. I believe this was his last season of waiver exemption, and he was unlikely to crack the Vegas roster.

Hilariously, Vegas got a 3rd when they traded him before. They basically loaned him away for a season and a half and now get him back when it's doable cap wise.

 

[BondraTime]

Things seen as a negative:

Significantly worse player.

I find it hilarious that Peterka, Tuch, and Cozens keep getting thrown around on this forum as players to target. These guys make up the worst team in the Eastern Conference, and somehow trading out someone like Norris or Pinto for one of them is going to make our team better? I highly doubt it.

You'd think if Buffalo had all these golden assets they'd be a much better team.

Norris was on the worst/one of the worst team every year of his career until this season…

Any one of those guys were up for Norris (they wouldn’t be) you’d drive him to the airport and pay his carry on.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Given the rumours we're looking for a fighter who can drop the gloves instead having to have Brady do it, do we put in a claim for Reaves?

I was going to suggest this but I'm taking some heat the last few days so I thought I'd leave it for Aragorn.

 

[Bileur]

He’s stuck in a catch 22. He’s going to be criticized if he doesn’t add someone, and he’s going to be criticized if he gives up things to get someone.

He’s in a lose-lose, the only pieces he can afford without giving up very valuable assets are guys who are no different than what they have now.

Particularly when you’ve got former NHL’ers like Gazdic and Armstrong going on about how the team earned an acquisition during the intermissions.