Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

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Do we flip one of Jensen/Zub in this scenario?

No. We're all in, united in red.

Green basically doesn't play Mantinpalo+Kleven. Also, Karlsson is very different from both Zub and Jensen. It's not a Chabot/Chychrun type scenario because Karlsson plays a different role than those two. I don't think it would be difficult to roll with the three of them on the right side playing 18-22 minutes a night depending on how each game plays out.

Based on how Green handles deployment, we would have Kleven play 10 minutes a night, and then the other 110 minutes would be divided between some combo of Sanderson/Zub/Chabot/Jensen/Karlsson. Green already runs what is almost a 5 man unit when everybody is healthy, so adding another defenseman who can eat up 20+ minutes works.

Mantinpalo would be the one who gets boxed out by this trade on the right side, but it isn't like Green plays him regardless.
 
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  • Drake Batherson (5M, 3 years)
  • Josh Norris (8M, 6 years)
  • Jacob Bernard-Dock (800k, RFA)
  • Conditional 2026 OTT 1st Round Pick or 2027 3rd Round Pick*
Cap In = 13.800M - 3 Roster Spots

*This pick transfers if Ottawa wins the Stanley Cup in 2025 or 2026 and Erik Karlsson plays in at least half the playoff games.
**If Ottawa does not have their 2026 First Round Pick, they can give Pittsburgh their 2027 1st Round Pick unprotected.
***If none of the conditions are met, Pittsburgh receives a 2027 3rd Round Pick instead of a 2026 1st Round pick.

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  • Erik Karlsson (8M, 3 years)*
  • Rickard Rakell (5M, 4 years)
  • Emil Bemstrom (775k, RFA)
Cap In = 13.775M - 3 Roster Spots

*Pittsburgh Retains 2M.

  1. Batherson and Crosby train together. In my Sens fan fic they are buddies and Crosby would welcome Batherson to the team.
  2. Rakell is Swedish.
  3. There is no market for Karlsson. Norris is younger, maybe can pick a thing or two up under Crosby and figure into Pittsburgh's current rebuild long-term.
  4. Pittsburgh can pump Batherson's numbers with butter soft deployment and flip him next year or the year after and possibly get a 1st.
  5. Conditional 1st is in there as a face saving move for Dubas. In all likelihood, it turns out to be a 2027 3rd. Just like we did with the original Karlsson trade where we got to say that we got three possible first round picks for him, when the reality is we got one.
  6. Bemstrom is a fringe NHLer who produces in the AHL but hasn't made an impact in Pittsburgh. He is not waiver exempt. He is right handed and we are going to need depth on the right side if we lose Batherson.
  7. In short, Batherson for Rakell combined with Norris @ 8M for Karlsson @ 8M, with a pick going Pittsburghs way because that sort of thing always happens with Dorion.

Ottawa wouldn't need to add a 1st round pick to this trade... I also don't think Karlsson, as much as I loved watching the guy, has that much value.
 
Ottawa wouldn't need to add a 1st round pick to this trade... I also don't think Karlsson, as much as I loved watching the guy, has that much value.

It's a fake 1st round pick. It's a 2027 3rd dressed up as a 1st.

With that said, you can take it out and it doesn't change much about the trade. It's more about the base and logic of the deal. Which people are fine to disagree with, but the point is the conditional 1st if we win the cup is incredibly unlikely to be met.

Just like when we got two 1sts for Duchene, but one was conditional on him re-signing in Columbus, and everybody knew going in that wasn't going to happen. It was more for optics.
 

Ryan Donato, Chicago Blackhawks, C/LW

Stats: 58 GP, 21 goals, 43 points

Cap hit: $2 million (UFA 2025)


Donato’s name has been linked to the Senators in recent weeks. He even came up as a trade possibility in our recent callout to The Athletic subscribers. He’s a versatile forward who can play all three positions and has some good underlying metrics. His size could be a bit of a detriment but his offence would be a welcome addition to a team that sometimes struggles to score. The biggest hold-up for Ottawa is that Donato should be attractive enough of a commodity that his asking price could rise. For those who read our Senators’ trade proposals piece from last month, you’ll know that Chicago could be asking for a second-round draft pick for Donato.

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Karlsson back to Ottawa? Dylan Cozens? Ryan Donato? Who says no?

Brandon Tanev, Seattle Kraken, LW

Stats: 59 GP, 9 goals, 17 points

AAV: $3.5 million (UFA 2025)


Tanev would be relied upon as an energy winger who would be leaned upon to bolster the Sens’ bottom six forward core and for his playoff experience. The Athletic’s Pierre LeBrun mentioned Friday that Tanev was getting interest from “Cup contenders and bubble teams” ahead of the deadline. If Seattle is willing to retain salary or take in another contract at a similar rate, maybe the Senators have a chance at Tanev. But Tanev has some control over his next destination thanks to his modified no-trade clause.

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Why your NHL team won't — but should — make a trade deadline blockbuster


Rickard Rakell could give the Senators a top-six boost. (Charles LeClaire / USA Today)

Rickard Rakell, Pittsburgh Penguins, RW​

Stats: 62 GP, 28 goals, 52 points

AAV: $5 million (UFA 2028)


Yes, we’ve said that you shouldn’t expect the Senators to go big-game hunting at the deadline. But humour us for a moment if you will.

Rakell would provide such a boost to the Senators offensively. The Swedish winger is in the midst of a productive year for the Penguins and is one point away from 500 for his career. He’d likely be given a chance to play with Tim Stützle on Day 1 as a Senator. This is a trade where the Senators would have to flip a roster player and add assets to make it work. And depending on who jumps into the fray, the Senators could be outbid by other suitors. But this could be a shock to the system the Senators might need as they make their charge for the postseason.

Tommy Novak, Nashville Predators, LW​

Stats: 51 GP, 12 goals, 21 points

AAV: $3.5 million (UFA 2027)


Novak is in the first year of a three-year deal. But with the Predators toiling near the bottom of the standings, it makes sense to see them sell off assets. Gustav Nyquist was a potential trade target for the Senators before he was shipped to the Minnesota Wild on Saturday. If the Predators continue selling, the Senators should consider giving the Predators a call on Novak. A potential trade might require the Senators to flip a player or two to accommodate his salary, but Novak could be a middle-of-the-lineup scorer this team could surely use.

Trent Frederic, Boston Bruins, LW

Stats: 57 GP, 8 goals, 15 points

AAV: $2.3 million (UFA 2025)


The Bruins will be selling ahead of the deadline, making players like Frederic expendable. Another middle-of-the-lineup player who is in the midst of a down season. Frederic isn’t that far off from a 40-point campaign with the Bruins. But he’d be able to contribute to the Senators as a checking-line forward with occasional scoring production. However, he’s currently out week to week with a lower-body injury.

Michael McCarron, Nashville Predators, RW​

Stats: 52 GP, 3 goals, 8 points

AAV: $900,000 (UFA 2026)


A year removed from a career-best 22-point season with Nashville, McCarron is an affordable, massive forward who can be counted on to win faceoffs. He’s won over 52 percent of his faceoffs through his eight-year career. The biggest holdup with McCarron is that his offensive contributions are limited, especially this season with three goals in Nashville. But if the Senators desperately wanted to make a move and were intrigued about a potential bounce-back, McCarron could be worth taking a flier on.

Luke Kunin, San Jose Sharks, LW

Stats: 61 GP, 11 goals, 18 points

AAV: $2.75 million (UFA 2025)


Kunin’s ceiling is that of a secondary contributor and he’s accomplished that in Minnesota, Nashville and San Jose through his eight-year career. He’s a right-shot forward who would fit in the Senators’ bottom six. His 11 goals would have him tied for sixth on the Senators, just as many as Claude Giroux has to this point in the season and more than Ridly Greig, Michael Amadio, and Noah Gregor just to name a few players.

Anthony Beauvillier, Pittsburgh Penguins, LW​

Stats: 62 GP, 13 goals, 20 points

AAV: $1.25 million (UFA 2025)


Beauvillier has bounced around in recent years with very limited production. But in Pittsburgh, he’s reached the double-digit goal plateau for the first time since the 2021-22 season with the New York Islanders. Some shine has worn off the Quebecois forward but he could be worth considering as an addition for his offence.


without looking into their contracts ... Any of the above could replace someone in our bottom 6 and be a decent upgrade. I pay 1$ / month for this you can send me 3 cents when you get around to it
Lots of names many on here have written about - The Athletic is lurking in here!!
 
If there is any chance at all they can get Donato, they have to do it.

With that said, there's probably going to be about 15 other teams looking to snag him up, and they probably all have more to offer. He'd really solidify our scoring depth though.
 
I don't expect Staios to make a big splash in the trade market. He might do something in the off-season when we have salary cap dollars available.
 
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Norris has not been delivering; he has been injured too often.

His overall game is good and he’s our Chris Drury when we need a goal he always delivers - I don’t believe the rumours the Sens want to trade him, I think they only are tjere when the Sens struggle
 
His overall game is good and he’s our Chris Drury when we need a goal he always delivers - I don’t believe the rumours the Sens want to trade him, I think they only are tjere when the Sens struggle
My view is that he has been a good player but is overpaid at $8M and likely will be overpaid over his remaining contract years. I do not recall seeing the rumours of his trade from a credible source. Has anyone? Which credible source?
 
Selling low on a 26YR old Batherson after a cold streak and buying high on a 31YR old Rakell after a career year is an absolutely terrible idea.

I don't make these trades, they come to me through the ether. It's a problem I've had since childhood. You should have seen some of the Spezza proposals written down on my schoolbooks.
 
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ya if you can't get rid of Norris you arent a good gm.

He is 100% moveable and should be able to clear most of that cap if he remains healthy this year
If Norris has an albatross contract like some say, then I can’t see a huge interest for him from other teams, and the majority/most of the other teams don’t have enough cap space and will need to send some cap back.

Your theory doesn’t make much sense.

If they want to get rid of Norris for whatever reasons, they can & will. Whether they end up with all of Norris’s salary to spend on another player, and/or end up being better is not automatic and is the harder part. Easy buttons that some possess are powerful though no doubt.
 
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If we had held onto Joseph and he had the season he's having with us instead of STL, people would be criticizing Staios for not trading him in the offseason when we could have gotten assets for him...
I'm sure they would.
Yeah I'll definitely eat crow. Didn't see him regressing so much after last season.

But Joseph + 3rd + 1M cap space > Perron is a hill I will die on.
Well, tbh, neither did I. I did think it was likely he regressed back more towards the 10goal, 25 point winger he was most of his career, but didn't think he'd have the stat line of Andre Roy.

Hard to argue for Perron atm, but I'm still hopeful there's some juice to squeeze. Regardless, not a hill I'd die on defending. I do think Amadio is fine though.
 
This proposal makes me miss Norris for Soucy and Hoglander. You’ve outdone yourself.
He pays a lot of attention to making the cap dollars work, but very little on improving the team. And, yes we do understand that the salary cap is a thing (thought I’d say that before someone goes there).
 
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