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Overpay for a vet in UFA on a 2-4 year deal.

Palmieri, Zucker, Mangiapane, Granlund, Smith, Frederic, Roslovic, Greenway... sign one of them for $3-$5.5m x 2-4yrs.

We have no assets and no cap space. In the summer, we will still have no assets but we will have cap space. Alternately, find a deal involving one of our high-salary players with term (likely Norris, Batherson, or an outside shot at Chabot) in a change of scenery swap.

Boeser is too expensive, though, and will need too much term.
Bryan Rust 2years left 5.125 aav
Eberle 1 year left 4.75

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Yanni Gourde as a rental ,, still on the shelf expected back mid march Seattle isn't making the playoffs , maybe get him cheap
 
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I would take Boeser as a rental for a collection of mid-range assets. No interest in trading anything significant for him or extending him.

Probably the only rental I would trade anything much for and want to re-sign is Marchand, which is not happening.

Rackell and Rust are on good contracts, Boeser will be an instant anchor. One season over 30 goals, one season over 56 points, and he just turned down $8mil a year. No thank you.

I wouldn't look at any of them seriously
Marchand has an upper body injury now.
 
Based on a quick glance, it looks like the Senator's have $77.8 m of cap next year with only 13 players signed. So, they have 8 - 10 players to sign with about $17.7 m to work with. Didn’t spend much time with this & didn’t look too closely though./
Your numbers are approximately right, I have them about $100k closer to the cap than you.

Merilainen, Ostapchuk, Halliday, MacEwen, Crookshank and Jenik should compete for a spot or two. Gregor, Cousins and Matinpalo should be under consideration for re-signing around $1m, and Kleven will likely be signable at around $1.25m. Giroux should be offered a performance-bonus-laden contract. I would also look at extending Forsberg under $1m.

If you incorporate Matinpalo, Merilainen/Forsberg, Ostapchuk, Gregor, Cousins and Kleven into the lineup for a combined $6.5m (very reasonable) and Giroux at $2.5m (+ performance bonuses), our roster looks like this with about $8.5m remaining under the cap:

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Perron - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Amadio
Cousins - Ostapchuk - Gregor

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Jensen
Kleven - Matinpalo

Ullmark
Forsberg/Merilainen

I expect us to keep at least $3m under the cap, but there is still room to add one good player or two middling ones.
 
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Overpay for a vet in UFA on a 2-4 year deal.

Palmieri, Zucker, Mangiapane, Granlund, Smith, Frederic, Roslovic, Greenway... sign one of them for $3-$5.5m x 2-4yrs.

We have no assets and no cap space. In the summer, we will still have no assets but we will have cap space. Alternately, find a deal involving one of our high-salary players with term (likely Norris, Batherson, or an outside shot at Chabot) in a change of scenery swap.

Boeser is too expensive, though, and will need too much term.
Palmieri is 34 and makes 5MM$
Mangiapane and Zucker are LW
Granlund was just traded and makes 5MM$
Frederik plays Center and has 8 goals
Smith is 34 and makes 5
Greenway is a LW

Roslovic is a good option though
 
Bryan Rust 2years left 5.125 aav
Eberle 1 year left 4.75

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Yanni Gourde as a rental ,, still on the shelf expected back mid march Seattle isn't making the playoffs , maybe get him cheap
I just read today that Seattle will only trade Gourde if they get a good return, which I am guessing puts us out of contention. I would love to add him, too.

I think Rust would cost an awful lot to acquire, but Eberle is a good option that I hadn't thought of. Tough to tell if Seattle would trade him, though... he's important to their group and I don't know that they would benefit from trading him now versus waiting til next deadline.
 
Palmieri is 34 and makes 5MM$
Mangiapane and Zucker are LW
Granlund was just traded and makes 5MM$
Frederik plays Center and has 8 goals
Smith is 34 and makes 5
Greenway is a LW

Roslovic is a good option though
As I said, I would target those players in FA, not in trade. We do not have the assets to acquire a top 9 forward by trade, imo.

Zucker, Frederic, and Mangiapane all play both wings. Frederic doesn't really play C. I get it, though, a RS would be nice. But not the be all end all imo
Marchand has an upper body injury now.
Yes, expected to be short-term though.

Either way, he isn't coming here via trade and he isn't signing with us either.
 
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I just read today that Seattle will only trade Gourde if they get a good return, which I am guessing puts us out of contention. I would love to add him, too.

I think Rust would cost an awful lot to acquire, but Eberle is a good option that I hadn't thought of. Tough to tell if Seattle would trade him, though... he's important to their group and I don't know that they would benefit from trading him now versus waiting til next deadline.
The TDL ia March 7 .. and Gourde won't be back in the lineup .. still could be enough interest to get a "good" return , but it would be worth a poke.
I am not sure they should be too greedy to risk getting nothing
 
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Your numbers are approximately right, I have them about $100k closer to the cap than you.

Merilainen, Ostapchuk, Halliday, MacEwen, Crookshank and Jenik should compete for a spot or two. Gregor, Cousins and Matinpalo should be under consideration for re-signing around $1m, and Kleven will likely be signable at around $1.25m. Giroux should be offered a performance-bonus-laden contract. I would also look at extending Forsberg under $1m.

If you incorporate Matinpalo, Merilainen/Forsberg, Ostapchuk, Gregor, Cousins and Kleven into the lineup for a combined $6.5m (very reasonable) and Giroux at $2.5m (+ performance bonuses), our roster looks like this with about $8.5m remaining under the cap:

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Perron - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Amadio
Cousins - Ostapchuk - Gregor

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Jensen
Kleven - Matinpalo

Ullmark
Forsberg/Merilainen

I expect us to keep at least $3m under the cap, but there is still room to add one good player or two middling ones.
We can sign Anthony Mantha to a performance bonus contract as well. Big bodied winger for Jimothy.
 
Your numbers are approximately right, I have them about $100k closer to the cap than you.

Merilainen, Ostapchuk, Halliday, MacEwen, Crookshank and Jenik should compete for a spot or two. Gregor, Cousins and Matinpalo should be under consideration for re-signing around $1m, and Kleven will likely be signable at around $1.25m. Giroux should be offered a performance-bonus-laden contract. I would also look at extending Forsberg under $1m.

If you incorporate Matinpalo, Merilainen/Forsberg, Ostapchuk, Gregor, Cousins and Kleven into the lineup for a combined $6.5m (very reasonable) and Giroux at $2.5m (+ performance bonuses), our roster looks like this with about $8.5m remaining under the cap:

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Perron - Norris - Batherson
Greig - Pinto - Amadio
Cousins - Ostapchuk - Gregor

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Jensen
Kleven - Matinpalo

Ullmark
Forsberg/Merilainen

I expect us to keep at least $3m under the cap, but there is still room to add one good player or two middling ones.
No way we get Giroux for 2.5 (I know signing bonuses) usually a good contract is 1 mil = 10 points and he's on pace for 45-50 so a 4.5-5 mil contract I'd expect. Still if you could bring in a 7.5/8mil top line winger you solve a lot of problems.
 
The Debrincat debacle should remains us to never go for rental again unless we appeared in conference finals the year before (meaning we are legit contender wich we are far from right now, far far from)
Boeser would be a great replacement for Giroux imo but he needs a trade-and-sign Stone style contract or pass
Rentals NEVER want to stay here

That is a different scenario entirely. We moved the equivalent of a top 5 pick in value for Debrincat.

There is probably almost no market for Norris. Assuming we want to get out of the contract, somehow getting Boeser (rental) as the return for some sort of swap where we trade Norris for bad contracts from Vancouver is pretty solid. It would be as much about moving the liability of his contract to a different team as it would be about getting Boeser as a rental.
 
No way we get Giroux for 2.5 (I know signing bonuses) usually a good contract is 1 mil = 10 points and he's on pace for 45-50 so a 4.5-5 mil contract I'd expect. Still if you could bring in a 7.5/8mil top line winger you solve a lot of problems.
It's not a signing bonus, it's a performance bonus. It's the exact contract Bergeron signed with Boston after his nearly PPG, Selke-winning season, and it can have major benefits for the player. If the bonus is for playing 10 games, for example, he gets paid in a lump sum in October or early November, rather than gradually throughout the season.

There's basically no reason for Giroux to hold firm against that type of deal, especially since there is a role in the organization for him if and when he wants it.
 
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It's not a signing bonus, it's a performance bonus. It's the exact contract Bergeron signed with Boston after his nearly PPG, Selke-winning season, and it can have major benefits for the player. If the bonus is for playing 10 games, for example, he gets paid in a lump sum in October or early November, rather than gradually throughout the season.

There's basically no reason for Giroux to hold firm against that type of deal, especially since there is a role in the organization for him if and when he wants it.
Speaking of which, the fact of the matter is after Chia left, the Bruins drafting has been predominantly shit outside of 2016, yet they did so well still because their core just refused to age. You can attribute part of that to previous management, but let's also be f***ing honest, no one can predict how someone's career will be way into the future, so part of it is them striking the jackpot. Like it's great that Bergeron and Krejci took their training seriously enough to be still be a 1 and 2C respectively past age 35, but that's very rare in this league. Oh and they have an elite goalie coach.
 
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I don’t think anyone *wants* to move Brady. It’s being discussed because someone could very well whisper in his ear “Hey… if you played in a major American market you could become the face of the league so maybe ask out of that small Canadian city…”

I don’t think he’ll do that. But the attention he’s getting right now has got to be intoxicating.

That doesn’t happen here when you get the 4pm time slot on Saturday because the Leafs are playing the Wild at 7.
People talk about trading him all the time, there is zero evidence that he wants out but the political climate & fans indirectly aiming their frustration with Trump have aimed there vitriol at Brady.
the problem is him wanting to be rid of us
There is zero evidence of this & just made up by fans because of the political crap going on. What about the other Americans on the team? Have people thought out that they could leave if Brady does? What does this end up meaning that we no longer draft American players? What is the future with all of this? How come we don't hear the reverse of Canadians wanting out of American cities? What happens with the Raptors & Blue Jays? We need to keep politics out of sports or this is going to spiral out of control if it hasn't already.
I think maybe we better get Tkachuk a big time winger, might be time.
He has Stutzle & Giroux on his line & Giroux will likely be re-signed.
4.5 is what I was expecting leading into the year, but it is a bit concerning that he's on pace for under 40 pts edit: I'm dumb....

No you are not, you are one of the better posters on here & very fair.
 
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Apparently we're linked to Boesser. Looking for term. Interesting but would require us to move big salary ie. Norris unless they retain 50% then it's a 3-4 mil contract.

Moving Norris has it's issues as the recent Pinto/Norris absence has illustrated.
If they really want Norris then I'd see something like:

Norris + ? for Chytil + Boeser @50%
 
Batherosn for Rakell, its like ziba-brassard but maybe not bad idea
 
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If they really want Norris then I'd see something like:

Norris + ? for Chytil + Boeser @50%
I hope Norris is not traded, I think it would hurt the team especially in the room without Norris. They may be able to move some guys without trading Norris that might make up the money such as Forsberg G ($.2.75) JBD ($.805K) & Amadio ($2.6) = $6.1 mil. Boeser makes $6.650 mil. I would expect that Ott would have to add either the 1st rd pick in 2025 or hopefully a later pick.

 
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I really don’t get why people want to trade Batherson. The guy is 2nd on the team in points, our only RW that isn’t on the cusp of retirement and has a good contract.

Yeah I get he’s had a tough stretch of hockey but be prepared to trade just about everyone if a bad stretch is the deciding factor.
 
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Damn, I wonder which team will go whale hunting and end up paying Boeser $8 million aav. He just doesn't score enough to warrant that cap hit, even with an increasing cap.
It's not just about pts with Boeser & if they were to place him with Tkachuk & Stutzle he could do very well. As the cap goes up so does the pay of players especially players who have a good history in the NHL, Boeser had 73 pts in the NHL last season. He turned down 5 yrs @ $8 mil & will likely want a little longer term. Bo Horvat is making $8.5 & his numbers are around the same as Boeser. My guess is that he will most likely make around the same as Horvat, if not a little more.
 
If they really want Norris then I'd see something like:

Norris + ? for Chytil + Boeser @50%

I still think we're getting boned. I expect something like us paying almost full price for Boeser, but getting away with giving them Ostapchuk instead of a 1st. Then we swap Norris+JBD or Hamonic for some combo of Soucy, Joshua, Chytil and Hoglander.

Norris+(JBD or Hamonic) for Soucy+Joshua
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Boeser (Half Retained) for Ostapchuk+2nd+B Prospect

Whatever little positive value Norris has with us taking back two contracts gets the price on Boeser down from a 1st+Ostapchuk to a 2nd+Ostapchuk.

Soucy, Joshua, and Boeser would be 9.825M in cap over 3 players. Norris, JBD, and another roster player sent down is about 9.6M. So that would be cap compliant. They could bring in a third team to retain on Boeser if needed.

Ostapchuk is a former Vancouver Giant, so there is a connection there that they might appreciate. He's probably worth at least a mid 2nd right now depending on the team. We get a slight discount on renting Boeser because of the bit of positive value Norris has when we subsidize him by taking some combo of Joshua, Soucy, Chytil, and Hoglander. Joshua would be the best gamble, because he brings toughness, which we badly need.

Then Boeser walks in the offseason, but that's our last push to try to win before we are forced to trade Tkachuk to the biggest possible market so that he can thrive under the spotlight as the new captain of the Kunlun Red Star.
 

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