Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Martian suggesting we're looking at bringing in Sam Gagner for a Belleville tryout


Eh ok

Gagner and Staios played together in Edmonton.

It's probably just a case of Staios doing a solid for a colleague.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

karlsson isn't even that good a pp quarter back so i doubt teams are looking to get him specifically for that.

they would get him for his 5 on 5 playmaking, which frankly is something we could use pretty badly. especially if getting a winger for Stutzle is hard.

Sanderson-Zub
Chabot-Jensen
Kleven-Karlsson

is pretty solid though.

like which pairing would be the best on any given night?

but i don't think he is coming. Yakemchuk is ready next year so our RD is set for the long term. we prob re up Jensen too since he has become an important part of the teams new culture.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Finding the recent trade comparables for J.T. Miller and Elias Pettersson

The Vancouver Canucks have a problem. Actually, that’s a wild understa...

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Love the player... not so sure about the fit in the room

f*** the room room is bad in VaN and they still have a better record than us

Need skill something Ottawa severely lacks these days.

I’d offer up Batherson for Miller.

 

[HSF]

f*** the room room is bad in VaN and they still have a better record than us

Need skill something Ottawa severely lacks these days.

I’d offer up Batherson for Miller.

batherson? you mean Norris?

 

[OttawaSenators11]

batherson? you mean Norris?

I’d do either one

 

[Sun God Nika]

I’d do either one

id do both

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

I don't take Norris if I'm Vancouver, but maybe I'd be tempted if the best return was going to be Lindgren, Chytil, and a heavily protected 1st.

Miller almost certainly isn't waiving to come here, so it's a moot point.

 

[ottawagm]

I think we make Karlsson work with retention, if not at the deadline, then in the summer when we have room.

For those worried about the chemistry, what chemistry? We can't find any forward lines that work for more than a few games, can't score on the PP and have barely any offense from the back end. We'll be fine.

 

[OmniSens]

Please go after Miller. We're in desperate need of an offensive spark.

 

[Icelevel]

Please go after Miller. We're in desperate need of an offensive spark.

Norris + ??

Problem is I really doubt he wants to come here.

 

[Golden_Jet]

f*** the room room is bad in VaN and they still have a better record than us

Need skill something Ottawa severely lacks these days.

I’d offer up Batherson for Miller.

Senators have more points and a better points percentage.

 

[OmniSens]

Norris + ??

Problem is I really doubt he wants to come here.

He might be as desperate for a chance of scenery too, with everything that's happened over the last year or so. If the price is Norris and a light-medium plus, you do it. I hate to lose Norris, but his health is still at question, his production likely can't match Miller's too. Vancouver also got dealt a shitty hand and they'll be taking a hit of the return.

 

[Golden_Jet]

f*** the room room is bad in VaN and they still have a better record than us

Need skill something Ottawa severely lacks these days.

I’d offer up Batherson for Miller.

I read he would waive for a few American teams in the north east only, and would consider Florida.

Not too mention cap wise, that trade doesn’t work.

 

[Good in Osgoode]

He might be as desperate for a chance of scenery too, with everything that's happened over the last year or so. If the price is Norris and a light-medium plus, you do it. I hate to lose Norris, but his health is still at question, his production likely can't match Miller's too. Vancouver also got dealt a shitty hand and they'll be taking a hit of the return.

Miller is 31 and has 5 years left at $8/m. I am not exactly sure what the deal in terms of the issues he is having in Van. It seems to me like he is an emotional player who really wants to win and has a low threshold for what he sees as a lack of passion/drive. This is not necessarily a bad thing unless in this case where your top paid player (E Petersson) is maybe a little more laid back and I think is what has created the conflict. I don't see this being an issue because it seems to me that players like Tkachuk & Stutzle and others in Ottawa have that same drive. It is the fact that he is 31 and 5 years @ $8m that would be the concern.
I would be more inclined to go after Boeser, who is only 27 but is going to be UFA, so a deal would need to be worked out.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Miller is 31 and has 5 years left at $8/m. I am not exactly sure what the deal in terms of the issues he is having in Van. It seems to me like he is an emotional player who really wants to win and has a low threshold for what he sees as a lack of passion/drive. This is not necessarily a bad thing unless in this case where your top paid player (E Petersson) is maybe a little more laid back and I think is what has created the conflict. I don't see this being an issue because it seems to me that players like Tkachuk & Stutzle and others in Ottawa have that same drive. It is the fact that he is 31 and 5 years @ $8m that would be the concern.
I would be more inclined to go after Boeser, who is only 27 but is going to be UFA, so a deal would need to be worked out.

Given how people perceive our room, that seems like the wrong player to bring in. He will want a trade again in a week.

There are multiple teams in on him that he already has presumably waived for or would waive for. We don't seem to be one of them. Vancouver was already apparently offered a package with a 1st from the Rangers, which is probably the best they can hope for when dealing a disgruntled player with a NMC.

Ignoring speculation about his fit in our room (based on the many hours I have spent in our locker room in NHL 25), I think when you consider the risk of his age+term, that would be offset by the risk of the injury history of Norris. Ironically, Norris has already had a greater decline at a younger age than JT Miller. So unless we have an offer for a team to take Norris off of our hands without sending cap back, moving out Norris for Miller offsets any risk since we're already moving a risky asset.

Again, while it's fun to speculate about everything (Karlsson, Miller, etc), I don't think it's remotely realistic to expect him to waive for Ottawa. I also don't think Vancouver is in a scenario where the market will fall out on them and they would have to beg him to waive for Ottawa.