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Ottawa should be looking for someone who can fit a need, doesn't cost much, has experience & he can take the punishment of playoff hockey. I doubt they can afford someone expensive & we certainly should not be giving away a 1st or 2nd rd pick.

Nick Bjugstad C/RW - UFA - makes $2.1 mil. affordable (likely under $1 mil) experienced, is in his last yr & can play C or RW. He's 6'5", 205 lbs, former 1st rd pick & 32 yrs old & could be re-signed cheaply for a yr to give Halliday more time to ease him into the lineup. He only has 12 pts right now, but last yr had 45 pts in 76 games (22 goals & 23 assists). He brings size, he brings scoring, he brings experience, he can be moved up & down the lineup & he can play two positions where Ott needs more depth C & RW.

Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Stutzle - Pinto - Gaudette
Perron/Cousins - Greig - Giroux
Ostapchuk - Bjugstad - Amadio/MacEwan/Gregor
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
It would be nice if we acquired a piece that we thought we might be a good long-term fit, because we aren't the most successful UFA destination, but we usually do okay with convincing players to stay once they are here.

If the cap does indeed go up to 97M+, we will have about 18M with 9 spots to fill and Giroux as our only significant free agent. I wouldn't say that is a lot of cap flexibility, but it is more than expected when the cap was projected to be in the low 90s. We might be able to make something work if we acquire a solid middle 6 forward or a #4-5 type D and they want to stay.
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add 2 million for injuries or TDL deal, it’s still should be listed as 92.5 million, unless there is a agreement to go higher ( which may or may not happen).
There is not a lot of flexibility until maybe the year after, but that was known when Andlauer bought team, that cap would be tight.
 
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We need a LW to play with Stutzle and a LD for depth. Then I'd look to move Forsberg in a deal for a cheaper NHL backup in return so we can use the cap difference. Someone like Reimer who is making 1M.
 
15 games before trade deadline, if team will be good position in top 8, we should be add something good for our offensive game, because team need it, Gaudette will not be solution for top 6 in playoffs,
 
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I think we need cap space, draft picks and prospects to make anything happen at the trade deadline. We don't have any of that. I like how everybody thinks we can add. It's cute. We could of had those things, but the guy on the radio in Hull fckd it all up. We got a ways to go.
 
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Karlsson @ 5 million, Filip Larsson, for Amadio, Forsberg, a 2027 2nd Round Pick, and a B or C prospect (Tyler Boucher for optics so Pittsburgh can say they got a prospect selected at a similar point to the pick they gave up got Karlsson).

Not advocating we get Karlsson, but if we did, I think that's the best Pittsburgh could do. Ultimately, I think he ends up on Montreal. They seem to have no problem buying low on risky high-skilled players who have negative value contracts. They also have a lot of bad contracts that they could send to Pittsburgh. They could potentially do Josh Anderson for Erik Karlsson, straight up, and Pittsburgh saves a lot of money without burning a retention spot. I assume Karlsson would waive to go there, since it's two hours away from his home in Ottawa.
 
I think you have to find teams who have a bad contract with term Pittsburgh can take (in addition to retaining), and who also have the cap flexibility not to worry about the third year of Karlsson's contract, where he might not be very good. He has a NMC and is buyout proof.

Then it has to be one of the teams that every player wants to go to, or it has to be a team near Ottawa. It can't be a worse situation than Pittsburgh, otherwise, he doesn't waive.

Toronto can't really make it work. The Rangers were a team he apparently liked before, but I doubt he waives to go there with how much of a shit show they are right now. Unless Florida wants to do something like Knight for Karlsson @ 5M, I don't see how it works.

Montreal makes the most sense to me because they are trending up and have bad contracts to swap.

We were one of the teams in on Klingberg. On paper, Karlsson to Ottawa could make sense, but the cap and term would be difficult to square up. Not to mention, bringing him back would be a major risk as far as chemistry is concerned. They would bring back their former face of the franchise, who would have to conform to norms created by an entirely different leadership group.
 
BonHoonLayneCornell said:
Anywhere but Montreal or Toronto please. Have to hate on him if he lands on either of those teams.
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Toronto doesn't work, but Montreal makes too much sense. Seeing him in a Canadiens jersey would be putrid.

The Rangers are another destination that might make sense since they were apparently a team he was willing to go to before (unless I am misremembering), and they are willing to move anybody. If the Rangers add Karlsson and Miller, that is a pretty big change in a short period of time. With how negative the players seem to be on Drury, I'd imagine that he might not waive to go there.

I can't help but feel there is a chance that he will end up back here. The fact that we wanted Klingberg shows that we might feel the need to add some offense from the backend. We need help scoring. Alfredsson is on the coaching staff. If he can fit into whatever the room is now, a motivated Karlsson in a bit more of a sheltered role could dramatically improve the team. But it would come down to whether Pittsburgh is willing to heavily retain and take back contracts. I don't think Norris for Karlsson makes us better right now. Amadio+Forsberg for Karlsson (w/ retention) and a waiver exempt 3rd string goalie might. I doubt Karlsson will cost much in terms of actual assets, they won't be able to get a market going for him. Dumping half of the contract will be the return for them.
 
frightenedinmatenum2 said:
Toronto doesn't work, but Montreal makes too much sense. Seeing him in a Canadiens jersey would be putrid.

The Rangers are another destination that might make sense since they were apparently a team he was willing to go to before (unless I am misremembering), and they are willing to move anybody. If the Rangers add Karlsson and Miller, that is a pretty big change in a short period of time. With how negative the players seem to be on Drury, I'd imagine that he might not waive to go there.

I can't help but feel there is a chance that he will end up back here. The fact that we wanted Klingberg shows that we might feel the need to add some offense from the backend. We need help scoring. Alfredsson is on the coaching staff. If he can fit into whatever the room is now, a motivated Karlsson in a bit more of a sheltered role could dramatically improve the team. But it would come down to whether Pittsburgh is willing to heavily retain and take back contracts. I don't think Norris for Karlsson makes us better right now. Amadio+Forsberg for Karlsson (w/ retention) and a waiver exempt 3rd string goalie might. I doubt Karlsson will cost much in terms of actual assets, they won't be able to get a market going for him. Dumping half of the contract will be the return for them.
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Rags definitely have a contract like Zibby (assuming he waives) to send back. MTL have bad contracts like Anderson and Gallagher. CBJ could probably pull off a deal to with Severson going the other way. Trying to think if there's any other teams with bad contracts that are a lesser caphit than EKs that they cans end back (like CGY won't work because Huberdeau has a worse contract)

If EK wants to be moved, he might have to open up to places that aren't high up on his list.
 
Any team acquiring EK would be doing so to have him QB their top PP, so teams like NYR or MTL with a quality top PP QB won't be interested.

DAL, FLA and DET look like the most likely potential destinations to me, assuming PlT is not only willing to retain a significant amount of salary but also take on a bad contract.

I doubt we're interested. Maybe would make sense if we didn't just draft a right handed offensive defenseman that is probably a year or so away.
 
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Any team acquiring EK would be doing so to have him QB their top PP, so teams like NYR or MTL with a quality top PP QB won't be interested.

DAL, FLA and DET look like the most likely potential destinations to me, assuming PlT is not only willing to retain a significant amount of salary but also take on a bad contract.

I doubt we're interested. Maybe would make sense if we didn't just draft a right handed offensive defenseman that is probably a year or so away.
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You need to find a team that also has a bad contract with term to offset the risk of holding Karlsson.

He doesn't feel old but he is turning 37 on the final year of his contract. Teams will be afraid of a possible decline and being stuck with the dead cap for that last year.
 
Hale The Villain said:
Any team acquiring EK would be doing so to have him QB their top PP, so teams like NYR or MTL with a quality top PP QB won't be interested.

DAL, FLA and DET look like the most likely potential destinations to me, assuming PlT is not only willing to retain a significant amount of salary but also take on a bad contract.

I doubt we're interested. Maybe would make sense if we didn't just draft a right handed offensive defenseman that is probably a year or so away.
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Forgot about that key aspect. That shortens the list even more. Not many teams that are competitive where EK coming in mean they get an upgrade for their PP QB. Maybe a team like St.Louis? They can still compete for a WC spot, he'd be an upgrade on Faulk as their PP QB, and they have plenty of mid contracts they can send back (Faulk, Joseph, Saad, Faksa, although a few of those names would have to waive NMCs)
 
frightenedinmatenum2 said:
You need to find a team that also has a bad contract with term to offset the risk of holding Karlsson.

He doesn't feel old but he is turning 37 on the final year of his contract. Teams will be afraid of a possible decline and being stuck with the dead cap for that last year.
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Dumba for DAL

Chariot/Holl/Copp for DET

Not sure if FLA has any bad contracts besides Bob, which would make a deal more difficult
 
frightenedinmatenum2 said:
Toronto doesn't work, but Montreal makes too much sense. Seeing him in a Canadiens jersey would be putrid.

The Rangers are another destination that might make sense since they were apparently a team he was willing to go to before (unless I am misremembering), and they are willing to move anybody. If the Rangers add Karlsson and Miller, that is a pretty big change in a short period of time. With how negative the players seem to be on Drury, I'd imagine that he might not waive to go there.

I can't help but feel there is a chance that he will end up back here. The fact that we wanted Klingberg shows that we might feel the need to add some offense from the backend. We need help scoring. Alfredsson is on the coaching staff. If he can fit into whatever the room is now, a motivated Karlsson in a bit more of a sheltered role could dramatically improve the team. But it would come down to whether Pittsburgh is willing to heavily retain and take back contracts. I don't think Norris for Karlsson makes us better right now. Amadio+Forsberg for Karlsson (w/ retention) and a waiver exempt 3rd string goalie might. I doubt Karlsson will cost much in terms of actual assets, they won't be able to get a market going for him. Dumping half of the contract will be the return for them.
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I’d love Montreal to get Karlsson. Very redundant.
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
Toronto doesn't work, but Montreal makes too much sense. Seeing him in a Canadiens jersey would be putrid.

The Rangers are another destination that might make sense since they were apparently a team he was willing to go to before (unless I am misremembering), and they are willing to move anybody. If the Rangers add Karlsson and Miller, that is a pretty big change in a short period of time. With how negative the players seem to be on Drury, I'd imagine that he might not waive to go there.

I can't help but feel there is a chance that he will end up back here. The fact that we wanted Klingberg shows that we might feel the need to add some offense from the backend. We need help scoring. Alfredsson is on the coaching staff. If he can fit into whatever the room is now, a motivated Karlsson in a bit more of a sheltered role could dramatically improve the team. But it would come down to whether Pittsburgh is willing to heavily retain and take back contracts. I don't think Norris for Karlsson makes us better right now. Amadio+Forsberg for Karlsson (w/ retention) and a waiver exempt 3rd string goalie might. I doubt Karlsson will cost much in terms of actual assets, they won't be able to get a market going for him. Dumping half of the contract will be the return for them.
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If he goes to Montreal, I'll have no choice but to boo him. The thought of it just feels icky.

I don't think it's in the cards for the Senators, but crazier things have happened, and they could use some additional offense from the back end. I'll give it a 0.01% chance of landing in Ottawa.
 
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