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DackellDuck said:
Oliver Bjorkstrand on the block according to Friedman. Speculates that Seattle is even willing to retain to sweeten the pot.

Now that’s a winger who’d be a perfect fit. Can score, can pass, can skate, can play anywhere. Reminds me of Clarke MacArthur. A top 6 Swiss Army knife.
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Man he would be perfect and exactly what we need more of.

Rasmus Andersson
Oliver Bjorkstrand

Two big names I wish we had the assets to make either one happen.
 
HSF said:
klingberg doesnt make much sense imo unless its league min so it can be burried easily
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it pretty much has to be for league min/what ever the max dollar value is that can be buried with no penalty

considering the other teams that are rumored to be interested in him, i doubt a bidding war starts
 
Golden_Jet said:
Actually you didn’t, Players Ltd pointed out Minnie is at 102% capacity, so they can’t add 1-2k more fans per night, as we have both pointed out.


I only see “default” as an option under style settings. Do different browsers show different setting options.
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see revenue Minnesota

21 st

see debt as value of team value


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tell me again about Minnesota and their success?????

How does papering the stands sound? How does inflating numbers? How does piss poor prices, a team that has played in the playoffs and is 21st.
 
branch said:
How much do we have to overpay to get Peterka to Ottawa to play with our German fella
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Not saying he's untouchable, but he's their second highest scoring player this season and never takes a shift off. I think the Sabres move Quinn or Benson before they move Peterka. We just extended Greig and I figured if we wanted Peterka we'd probably have to move Greig. Now I'd say Pinto, but we need Pinto for the C depth.
 
PlayersLtd said:
You do you but what you are overestimating (or more accurately, not estimating at all) is how much a Brock Boeser is worth to a team relative to another $8-9M player who isn't from the midwest and doesn't have blonde hair and blue eyes...

The cost benefit model isn't Brock Boeser vs. an empty locker stall. It's Brock Boeser vs a replacement player of equal salary (actually less salary since you're advocating an overpayment for Boeser's blue eyes and midwest origins...). You're not factoring the opportunity cost of Brock Boeser.

So its more like, is Brock Boeser (plus the $1-2M premium Beech is willing to pay for his stunning good looks) THAT much more valuable to a team than say, I don't know, how about Mark Scheiffle?

The answer is no. Any marketing delta between Boeser and Scheiffle does not exceed the importance and value of building the best hockey team possible because winning trumps all.

Would Boeser be a nice story if he played at home in Minnesota? Absolutely. Does it make sense to invest in that over a superior player who gives you a better chance at winning but isn't doing 5 minute call in's on the local sports radio once a month? Absolutely not.

Also, I'm pretty sure Wayne did just fine chasing a last cup with Messier in Manhattan over going to a perennial late 90's cellar dweller in Toronto.
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you have a replacement player at 5-6 million.
Or Brock at 8-9 M

so you say, f*** 2-4 million.

Now add a local star. One who can sell 10,000-20,000 jerseys state wide with Minnie and Boeser/6. And at $100-$200. That is 2 M-4 M alone. Granted the bulk will be in year 1 and 2.

Now add other merchandise. Now add that 1-5% added eyes on media. So 2M - 4M in media.

Now add 1-5% price increases, as he keeps interest high... 2 M - 4 M.

Brock could add 6 M - 12 M... his 2- 4 M of added salary is? a deal!!!

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Columbus, Minnie, Utah, STL, Nashville. All Mid west, all bottom 11 in revenue. Now add Seattle, Colorado. Close enough and 19th and 20th in revenue.

2-4 M to Brock, 6-12 M for the club.

We will see. The CAP is climbing.
US born players are what Franco stars are to Montreal. A need.
Canadian CFL players make way more than their American counter parts. A need.
Left handed Pitchers make more money. A need
 
I know it's deserved, but it's wild to see Jarry going on waivers.

Definitely not someone we should put a claim in on, of course.
 
Beech said:
you have a replacement player at 5-6 million.
Or Brock at 8-9 M

so you say, f*** 2-4 million.

Now add a local star. One who can sell 10,000-20,000 jerseys state wide with Minnie and Boeser/6. And at $100-$200. That is 2 M-4 M alone. Granted the bulk will be in year 1 and 2.

Now add other merchandise. Now add that 1-5% added eyes on media. So 2M - 4M in media.

Now add 1-5% price increases, as he keeps interest high... 2 M - 4 M.

Brock could add 6 M - 12 M... his 2- 4 M of added salary is? a deal!!!

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The average NHL team is worth $1.92 billion, according to CNBC’s Official 2024 NHL Valuations.
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Columbus, Minnie, Utah, STL, Nashville. All Mid west, all bottom 11 in revenue. Now add Seattle, Colorado. Close enough and 19th and 20th in revenue.

2-4 M to Brock, 6-12 M for the club.

We will see. The CAP is climbing.
US born players are what Franco stars are to Montreal. A need.
Canadian CFL players make way more than their American counter parts. A need.
Left handed Pitchers make more money. A need
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There's a lot of assumptions here that don't really make a lot of sense.

Jersey sales, it has to be incremental to have any real impact. How many people that wouldn't have bout a jersey will buy one because Boeser now on the team, and from legitimate sources and not fakes from china.

Teams don't get $100-$200 markup on a jersey, for one, the team only generates revenue on markup of sales from the team store (so the local sports store selling a Boeser Jersey does nothing) or from NHL.com (which creates central revenue divided across the 32 teams, so shared). The league does collect licensing fees which again are central revenues shared, but that's about 10% of the wholesale cost which would typically be about half of the retail price.

1-5% increase in price? That's insane, one player isnt' letting you increase prices that much if at all unless it's a legit superstar. Boeser is a nice player, but Kaprizov is and will continue to be the money maker in Minnesota,

Left handed pitchers and Canadians in the CFL are paid more because they are scarce commodities, like a RHD, Boeser is a winger, the opposite of a scarce commodity.

If you're going to see a significant revenue increase due to adding a player, not counting generational talents or near generational, it's added playoff revenues due to improving the team, if you can make the case that Boeser gets you two more home games, that's where you might have a case, especially if you're a team that's already making it to the second round, the deeper you go, the more valuable those extra 2 games become.
 
Star players sell luxury boxes and attract sponsorship deals. For more fan driven markets like our own, they also help drive season tickets.

Crosby, Bedard (for now), Matthews, Ovechkin and McDavid might be some of the few players in that conversation. I'm sure I may have forgotten someone.

I think the closest thing to what you're taking about where it wasn't a top tier generational player might have been Columbus opening up their wallets to get Gaudreau. But I don't think Boeser is even at that level.

I could see Boeser getting 8M-10M if he doesn't get term (see Debrincat). But I don't think it will be because the team signing him thinks he will sell luxury boxes like signing McDavid would. It will just be a team overpaying for a 30 goal UFA because the cap jumped up to 97M.

It's a completely different world now, but part of why both Ottawa and Quebec wanted Daigle was because they felt his marketing impact would help secure funds to build the arenas needed to avoid relocation.

Burke infamously had people on the line ready to buyout their luxury boxes the moment Anaheim won the Crosby lottery (but they lost).

So there are many situations where the marketing impact of a player is going to be a consideration, but in this case I think you're vastly overestimating the popularity of Boeser.
 
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Rumored asking price for Ryan Donato out of Chicago is a 3rd round pick. I'd make that offer, and see if they'll take on Forsberg for the rest of the year (Donato makes 2M and Forsberg 2.75M so we'd come out ahead) if we chip in something else.

13 goals this year and can play all over the lineup.
 
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DackellDuck said:
Rumored asking price for Ryan Donato out of Chicago is a 3rd round pick. I'd make that offer, and see if they'll take on Forsberg for the rest of the year (Donato makes 2M and Forsberg 2.75M so we'd come out ahead) if we chip in something else.

13 goals this year and can play all over the lineup.
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Exactly my thought too. Donato is fiesty, can score and can kill penalties
 
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DackellDuck said:
Rumored asking price for Ryan Donato out of Chicago is a 3rd round pick. I'd make that offer, and see if they'll take on Forsberg for the rest of the year (Donato makes 2M and Forsberg 2.75M so we'd come out ahead) if we chip in something else.

13 goals this year and can play all over the lineup.
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Forsberg+3rd (2025) + 4th (2026) for Ted Donato's son. Get it done Staios, just do it!
 
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