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I honestly don’t know what he would get, I didn’t think about it too deeply. He wouldn’t sign here anyway imo but I suspect it would be no less than 7 million with the cap going up. Hed have quite a few 60 pt+ seasons if he’d stayed healthy.
An American player, in a league of 25 USA based teams. Blond, Blue-eyed, mid western boy. A family that I believe is dealing with a child with developmental issues.

That will play amazingly well in the US.

Back home in Minnie..any Central division team. Someone will pony up 8-9 M and market around him. He can put 1000-2000 added butts in seats. That alone is 4-8 Million a year of added team revenue..

Imagine Brady in STL, how much do you think they would pay???? and for 2000-3000 added butts in seats.
 
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An American player, in a league of 25 USA based teams. Blond, Blue-eyed, mid western boy. A family that I believe is dealing with a child with developmental issues.

That will play amazingly well in the US.

Back home in Minnie..any Central division team. Someone will pony up 8-9 M and market around him. He can put 1000-2000 added butts in seats. That alone is 4-8 Million a year of added team revenue..

Imagine Brady in STL, how much do you think they would pay???? and for 2000-3000 added butts in seats.
Well and you could argue he’d take less to play in Minnesota but it should go without saying that we would have to overpay.
 
First, we don't know what he would want & second, I doubt it would be $9 mil. Who would you want to replace Giroux at RW who would be available, who wouldn't cost us any assets (free agent signing) & is a good point producer? Boeser had 73 pts last season & after being injured earlier this yr has rebounded & is having another good season.

I don't think it would cost quite that much either, but it does seem like it'd be a decent size and term that is a big commitment and I wouldn't do it if it did get that high. I'm luke warm on it. Watched a lot of Vancouver over the years. Really would come down to the cost and term for me. Not a lot out there, so I will give you that. Some other intriguing names are Ehlers, Hall and Nelson maybe, but pretty barren for forward UFA's. Ultimately, I don't think a big UFA will be in the cards either way, but we'll see. I'd peg Giroux coming back at about 95-99%.
 
An American player, in a league of 25 USA based teams. Blond, Blue-eyed, mid western boy. A family that I believe is dealing with a child with developmental issues.

That will play amazingly well in the US.

Back home in Minnie..any Central division team. Someone will pony up 8-9 M and market around him. He can put 1000-2000 added butts in seats. That alone is 4-8 Million a year of added team revenue..

Imagine Brady in STL, how much do you think they would pay???? and for 2000-3000 added butts in seats.
Minnie is at 102% capacity and has been for years. Brady is not the difference between selling out or not in STL, winning is.

Also, Brock Boeser is about as marketable as new wall paper in the GM's office. Nice player and all, but has never been marketing darling.
 
I don't think it would cost quite that much either, but it does seem like it'd be a decent size and term that is a big commitment and I wouldn't do it if it did get that high. I'm luke warm on it. Watched a lot of Vancouver over the years. Really would come down to the cost and term for me. Not a lot out there, so I will give you that. Some other intriguing names are Ehlers, Hall and Nelson maybe, but pretty barren for forward UFA's. Ultimately, I don't think a big UFA will be in the cards either way, but we'll see. I'd peg Giroux coming back at about 95-99%.
Whether they deal with Giroux leaving this yr or next they will have to eventually deal with it & replace him with a top six forward. And this is why I doubt they move Norris knowing they will be losing Giroux soon. The guys you mention are LWers, they need a RWer & I agree there is slim pickings in the UFA market this summer. Boeser seems like the most logical choice, but as others have said he might get a better offer somewhere else including his home state. Maybe Staois pulls a rabbit out of his hat, we'll see. I expect they will make three or four changes over the summer, maybe more.
 
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An American player, in a league of 25 USA based teams. Blond, Blue-eyed, mid western boy. A family that I believe is dealing with a child with developmental issues.

That will play amazingly well in the US.

Back home in Minnie..any Central division team. Someone will pony up 8-9 M and market around him. He can put 1000-2000 added butts in seats. That alone is 4-8 Million a year of added team revenue..

Imagine Brady in STL, how much do you think they would pay???? and for 2000-3000 added butts in seats.
I don’t think anyone would think Boeser can add 1-2k extra fans in the seats per game in the Central.
 
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Whether they deal with Giroux leaving this yr or next they will have to eventually deal with it & replace him with a top six forward. And this is why I doubt they move Norris knowing they will be losing Giroux soon. The guys you mention are LWers, they need a RWer & I agree there is slim pickings in the UFA market this summer. Boeser seems like the most logical choice, but as others have said he might get a better offer somewhere else including his home state. Maybe Staois pulls a rabbit out of his hat, we'll see. I expect they will make three or four changes over the summer, maybe more.
It is not a bad idea in general, I'll give you that, just would want to keep it within reason. They will need to add, but he's not a player I'd want the brinks truck backed up for necessarily.
 
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Boeser got 8.06% of the cap when signing as an RFA. At a 92.5M cap that’s 7.1M. Since he’s UFA and the cap will likely be higher the only way he gets under 8M is by taking a discount to play in Minny or a no-tax state.
 
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Gage Gonclaves on waivers by Tampa, recent 2nd round pick that has produced well in the AHL, could be an interesting low risk gamble. At worst we lose him on waivers again or he helps out Bingo as a top 6 forward.
 
Staios doesn't have the balls to Robidas Island Perron. He's the one who signed him so he'll do whatever he can to help Perron get to a place where he feels he can play. It's just poor player evaluation.

Having said that, if we Robidas Island Perron, odds are the league cracks down and takes away another first round pick lol especially with Andlauer openly speaking up about the B's sale process of the Sens + league not mentioning the penalty.
 
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Ahhhh. I’m seeing now why I was thinking they couldn’t offer less. It makes no sense whatsoever for a player to sign for less than his QO, when he will get his QO in arb.
The only "sense" is that the player might want to stay with the team he is on now and realizes that he will probably not get a better offer elsewhere than what his current team is offering (e.g., offering Brannstrom a $1M or $1.5M contract). I suspect that most players would gamble that they could get the same or a better contract elsewhere.
 
Whether they deal with Giroux leaving this yr or next they will have to eventually deal with it & replace him with a top six forward. And this is why I doubt they move Norris knowing they will be losing Giroux soon. The guys you mention are LWers, they need a RWer & I agree there is slim pickings in the UFA market this summer. Boeser seems like the most logical choice, but as others have said he might get a better offer somewhere else including his home state. Maybe Staois pulls a rabbit out of his hat, we'll see. I expect they will make three or four changes over the summer, maybe more.
Take Giroux's $6.5M plus $1M from Forsberg's salary and you have $7.5M to offer Boeser. Might be doable.
 
Staios doesn't have the balls to Robidas Island Perron. He's the one who signed him so he'll do whatever he can to help Perron get to a place where he feels he can play. It's just poor player evaluation.
I’m obviously crazy but I’d like to see Perron play before calling it a terrible signing. It’s not just you, it’s almost everyone judging the player without seeing him with this group.

Take Giroux's $6.5M plus $1M from Forsberg's salary and you have $7.5M to offer Boeser. Might be doable.
lol. Boeser isn’t coming to Ottawa for 7.5M.
 
I don’t see us adding a 8M forward through free agency.

I think we might add a lowkey player who’ll fit the group.
 
The only "sense" is that the player might want to stay with the team he is on now and realizes that he will probably not get a better offer elsewhere than what his current team is offering (e.g., offering Brannstrom a $1M or $1.5M contract). I suspect that most players would gamble that they could get the same or a better contract elsewhere.

That’s what I’m thinking. I can’t think of many players that would do that though.
 
If we sign Brock Boesner as a free agent, I'm not following this team anymore. Allocating that money to a player like him would be awful. He's constantly injured, prone to terrible cold streaks, and doesn't do a lot else other than score goals. Scored 40 once with a 20% shot pct and I can guarantee he'd never get 30 here
 
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Carrier would have been an absolute steal, would have helped shore up the D for the next few years. I have really liked him for a long time.

Easier said than done of course, he's not making too much, and is a steal at his contract, but in season with where the Sens are it would have been near impossible to make happen.

Montreal had an absolute bullseye. I have absolutely no clue what Trotz was doing, Carrier would have returned an absolute haul last year at the deadline, at least a late 1st + some ammo.

Those are the unsung hero's, the ~20 minute a night guys who are steady and shore up the D.
Money under the table or future favor from a very rich team.

My theory lives on.

No reason to trade carrier for Justin freaking Barron

Fabbro was never really given his due by Nashville under 2 different coaches. Trotz is trying to pivot and retool, he has moved Carrier and O’Reilly is next. At least Trotz hasn’t pulled a Muckler, he is giving the guys he signed this summer a say in where they are being moved to.
Best way to retool is to get rid of two good Right shot D for nothing in return. It’s always been said.
 
Money under the table or future favor from a very rich team.

My theory lives on.

No reason to trade carrier for Justin freaking Barron


Best way to retool is to get rid of two good Right shot D for nothing in return. It’s always been said.

I think you're right that it was a money thing, but I don't think it has to be as nefarious as you are making it out to be. Montreal was just in the right place at the right time.

There aren't many teams with cap space. Most of the teams with cap space are budget teams. Montreal took Carrier without sending back anything except for the contract of Barron, which is only a few 100k above league minimum. They relieved Trotz of a front-loaded contract with 3 years of term after he committed 100M+ to bad unmovable contracts this offseason.

Trotz signed a bunch of big contracts this summer and nothing was working. Carrier had minimal trade protection and was the easiest player to move. He had to do something to regain cap flexibility and make a change. So he made a really bad move. Montreal got the player for what they did because they had the cap space to take him, and the dollars to back him up. Nashville also may have overrated Barron.

It's a really annoying trade to see Montreal get Carrier for nothing, but I can see exactly how something like that materializes. Trotz signed all these massive contracts that are not producing, I can't imagine his job is very secure with how badly he messed up the team, most of the contracts are not moveable. There was probably pressure to get some of that cap/money off the books, or just to do something to change the complexion of the team.
 

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