Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[HSF]

seen a lot of people want Carrier...isnt he just another undersized defensemen. I get he is a RD but we don't need another year of people complaining about having another undersized D

 

[Senator Stanley]

I wonder if any part of letting Brannstrom walk now has to do with Alex Carrier being their top UFA target for the 2nd RHD slot, and they're preparing to bulk up the rest of the group. A kind of "you can have one undersized guy" line of thinking.

Carrier makes a lot of sense for us. He's a French Canadian guy who might actually want to come here, he played in Gatineau for juniors, he looks to be friends with Mathieu Joseph, he's the same age as Chabot so I'm guessing they know each other. He's a different player than Tanev, that's for sure, but he could be a nice stabilizing presence next to Chabot, in the same way Demelo was.

 

[BondraTime]

seen a lot of people want Carrier...isnt he just another undersized defensemen. I get he is a RD but we don't need another year of people complaining about having another undersized D

No, he’s strong defensively and very smart, a perfect guy to play 19 a night in your 2nd pair.

He’s not bruising, but we need a stabilizing presence. He was extremely strong in the playoffs playing 20+ a night, he’d be able to be that guy for Ottawa as well.

He’s likely the best realistic option for the Sens.

He’s going GM to make some GM look very smart

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Relax, there are always strong opinions on draft day….Back in 2018 a lot of people in this forum had their heads on fire because the Sens passed on Zadina….. and took some other guy instead…… the Sharks just passed on giving Zadina a QO, and the guy Dorion selected is still playing in Ottawa.

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I wasn't referring to myself. Just the general vibe here this time of year. There is always a lot of initial disappointment with the draft, FA & Ottawa not getting any of the big fish.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Don’t be surprised if the Senators make an aggressive pitch to Los Angeles Kings blueliner Matt Roy. He’s a name on the club’s list along with Brandon Montour of the Florida Panthers. The Senators need a right shot blueliner, but they also have to convince these players to come here.



A league source told us that the Senators may have had some level of interest in Carolina Hurricanes’ defenceman Brett Pesce, but it would appear he’s all but settled on going to the New Jersey Devils.

From League executive.

 

[GCK]

Apples and oranges.

Using up draft capital on potentially underwhelming players isn' the same as taking a chance on a player without giving up assets.

Zadina wasn’t qualified by SJ, the worst team in the league with lots of cap space. There is no upside, time to let it go, he is Rudolph Balcers.

 

[HSF]

No, he’s strong defensively and very smart, a perfect guy to play 19 a night in your 2nd pair.

He’s not bruising, but we need a stabilizing presence. He was extremely strong in the playoffs playing 20+ a night, he’d be able to be that guy for Ottawa as well.

He’s likely the best realistic option for the Sens.

He’s going GM to make some GM look very smart

if you are looking to overhaul the defense to be tougher to play against then you are going to need some guys who have some size to them and uses that size. Carrier might fit but there needs to be more around him. Kleven if he is ready can provide that in the bottom pair but I think there needs to be a significant shift in the top 4

I guess though if you miss out on Tanev and Roy then there isn't much option

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Apples and oranges.

Using up draft capital on potentially underwhelming players isn' the same as taking a chance on a player without giving up assets.

Lol is this how you think you characterize things in the moment?

 

[Senator Stanley]

No, he’s strong defensively and very smart, a perfect guy to play 19 a night in your 2nd pair.

He’s not bruising, but we need a stabilizing presence. He was extremely strong in the playoffs playing 20+ a night, he’d be able to be that guy for Ottawa as well.

He’s likely the best realistic option for the Sens.

He’s going GM to make some GM look very smart

One thing I didn't realize is how little Carrier has played in the NHL. He's only at 217 NHL games, which is remarkably low for a 27 year old who's about to get paid. Brannstrom, in comparison, has already played 266 games.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

This is meant as a good natured rib over the league executive line he keeps using. I feel the need to clarify that, because sometimes people are hard on Garrioch over things that aren't directly related to his work.

 

[HSF]

wow leafs getting domi for 3.75 for 4 years is solid

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

So the Sharks didn't qualify Zadina.

I don't think he'll ever become a top 6 forward, but I wouldn't mind signing him a cheap scoring winger for our 3rd line.

What do you like about his game other than being a former 6th overall pick?

San Jose, the worst team in the league by far, doesn't see any value in keeping him around. That should tell you a lot about his game.

 

[Cosmix]

If the return is that horrible for Chychrun just keep him as a self-rental and run the 3 lefties on separate pairs ala Tampa Bay

Or try Sanderson on RD with either Chabot or Chychrun at LD.

 

[Cosmix]

I think no one asked because the difference between that first and our second was 14 spots, and getting rid of Korpisalo was easily worth paying more.

Yes it was.

Having 3 goaltenders at $5M + $4M + $2.75M = 11.75M would be ridiculous; we had to get rid of one of them, preferably Korpisalo due to his higher salary.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

We can't keep Chychrun. We have to move him or Chabot, and bring in a stabilizing RHD. Ideally, we bring in the RHD to be Chabot's "Methot".

If we move Chabot instead of Chychrun, we create a possible complication where if Chychrun walks at the end of the season, we lose both of them in the span of one season.

We could possibly squeeze in a RHD at 5M-6M, bridge Pinto, and do nothing else while still coming in under the salary cap with 21 players. That is far from ideal because then we're paying Chychrun to be our #5 defenseman, in a role where he would be redundant.

You have to keep in mind that the return on Chychrun also includes whatever his near 5M in cap is used to add to our roster. The dynamic is that Chychrun is not staying after this season. So even if the return is similar to Marino, if it opens up the cap space for us to add a RHD in free agency, that RHD is part of the overall return, even if it is indirect.

It doesn't make sense to deliberately make our team worse for an important season just because we're going to have to take a massive haircut on what we paid for Chychrun. Chychrun either playing instead of a RHD, or using the last bit of cap space on that RHD and having Chychrun playing on the bottom pair which prevents us from adding a forward would not be good.

If they can get a RHD in free agency, they just need to make the best deal they can for Chychrun and move on.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Without Jacob being moved, our options in free agency are very limited tomorrow.

I’m shocked that he hasn’t been traded yet tbh.

 

[GCK]

Or try Sanderson on RD with either Chabot or Chychrun at LD.

No thank you.

wow leafs getting domi for 3.75 for 4 years is solid

Solid deal but do they wind up with the vagabond Domi or the 2nd half of last year Domi ?

 

[Micklebot]

Skinner, Schmidt, Boqvist bought out
A.Nylander and T.Raddysh not qualified

Any potential fits?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Skinner, Schmidt, Boqvist bought out
A.Nylander and T.Raddysh not qualified

Any potential fits?

I think skinner could be a fit if he wants to come here. That Norris sitch is hard to read.
Schmidt I like. But I liked him two years ago I don’t know what he is now

 

[Micklebot]

I think skinner could be a fit if he wants to come here. That Norris sitch is hard to read.
Schmidt I like. But I liked him two years ago I don’t know what he is now

Yeah, I haven't paid much attention to any of these guys, so aside from Skinner I'm unsure.

Boqvist and Schmidt don't exactly fit the architype of who were looking for but maybe for depth?

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Schmidt as the 3rd pairing RD could be good.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Yeah, I haven't paid much attention to any of these guys, so aside from Skinner I'm unsure.

Boqvist and Schmidt don't exactly fit the architype of who were looking for but maybe for depth?

Brannstrom is better than boost and we just let Branny go

 

[Micklebot]

Schmidt as the 3rd pairing RD could be good.

Does he play his off side?

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Does he play his off side?

I think he’s primarily a RD. Always plays his off side in Vegas and Winnipeg.

 

[Micklebot]

Brannstrom is better than boost and we just let Branny go

Brannstrom was let go because a) were loaded at LD, b) he had a case for a raise, and c) he's too small.

Boqvist is a RHD, we can make an offer at what we're willing to pay without worrying he'll be awarded more, and c) he's bigger...

I don't want him as a regular in the lineup, but maybe as a 7th d? Probably not since Hamonic is likely filling that role.