Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Sens of Anarchy]

I wonder if the leafs would trade us liljegren and robertson in a package deal.

I don't see why not .. who we giving them
Hamonic and MacKewen?

 

[Icelevel]

I wouldn't overpay but if I could add Ian Cole ... he's the exact type of SOB we need more of in this team

I was a bit shocked and confused when we traded him away so quick.

 

[LiseL]

We didn't acquire Lassi Thomson in the Duchene trade. We got him for free from Anaheim off of waivers. Sometimes I think some of you guys like to fudge the facts to make Pierre Dorion look bad!

Ottawa drafted Thomson 19th overall in 2019 draft. I believe they used the the first round pick they acquired from Columbus when they traded Duschene. Ottawa then put him on waivers on Sept 20, 2023. Anaheim picked him up off waivers on Oct 1st then they put him back on waivers on Oct 9th whereby Ottawa claimed him back.

 

[dumbdick]

I don't see why not .. who we giving them
Hamonic and MacKewen?

Picks, ideally.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Ottawa drafted Thomson 19th overall in 2019 draft. I believe they used the the first round pick they acquired from Columbus when they traded Duschene. Ottawa then put him on waivers on Sept 20, 2023. Anaheim picked him up off waivers on Oct 1st then they put him back on waivers on Oct 9th whereby Ottawa claimed him back.

I always appreciate people sharing info. Your heart was in the right place, but my post was meant as a joke where the punch line is about fudging the facts, as I ironically did in the post.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Ottawa drafted Thomson 19th overall in 2019 draft. I believe they used the the first round pick they acquired from Columbus when they traded Duschene. Ottawa then put him on waivers on Sept 20, 2023. Anaheim picked him up off waivers on Oct 1st then they put him back on waivers on Oct 9th whereby Ottawa claimed him back.

Set him straight Lise

 

[Rodzilla]

We need players like Trocheck, Bennett.

Chipy players that can also play great hockey.

I said we shouldve paid the price for Reinhart back then which imo wasnt very expensive, he’s another player I really like.

Obviously easier said than done and most wouldnt come here but I think thats the style of players this team doesnt have a lot of

 

[HSF]

In terms of a UFA top-4 RD, how about Jalen Chatfield of Carolina?
Might be as a result of Pesce's injury, but he has been playing 20+ minutes/game in the playoffs.

I will admit that I don't know a ton about him but looks to have decent size, will be 28 on Wednesday, played for TG in Vancouver, is making league minimum, put up 22pts in 72games this year.

I just get the sense that we are not going to be in the running for RD's like Montour, Roy, Pesce, Walker, Tanev, etc. We are likely going to have to be considering options like Chatfield, who might not be considered a top 4 D-man right now but have the tools to do so given the chance. Would probably jump at a deal like 3 x $3m, which gives flexibility to still grab a top 9F and/or a 1B Goalie. Thoughts on Chatfield?

was gonna bring him up aswell

not sure if he can be a full time top 4 guy but he might be able to

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Quality over Quantity in Chychrun trade.

A 1 for 1 trade brings back best value

Sens gotta find their Hossa Heatley trade




Sam Bennett for Chychrun

Nicholas Hague for

Radek Faksa for Chychrun

Morgan Geekie for Chychrun

I’d rather keep him and risk having him walk than do these two trades.

 

[HSF]

We need players like Trocheck, Bennett.

Chipy players that can also play great hockey.

I said we shouldve paid the price for Reinhart back then which imo wasnt very expensive, he’s another player I really like.

Obviously easier said than done and most wouldnt come here but I think thats the style of players this team doesnt have a lot of

need to grab a player like this when they are avaliable

 

[redbrick98]

need to grab a player like this when they are avaliable

A couple will be this summer in free agency:

Brandon Tanev - Seattle Kraken looking to offload

Nick Cousins- UFA

Ryan Lomberg - UFA

Ian Cole - UFA

 

[Golden_Jet]

I wouldn't overpay but if I could add Ian Cole ... he's the exact type of SOB we need more of in this team

We shouldn’t of traded him away.

I wonder if the leafs would trade us liljegren and robertson in a package deal.

No thanks.

 

[bicboi64]

A couple will be this summer in free agency:

Brandon Tanev - Seattle Kraken looking to offload

Nick Cousins- UFA

Ryan Lomberg - UFA

Ian Cole - UFA

I'd take BTanev, but huge no to Cousins or Lomberg. Those guys are slimeballs

I don't see why not .. who we giving them
Hamonic and MacKewen?

Maybe Treliving is dumb enough to think Korpisalo is an upgrade on Samsonov.

They take Hamonic, Korpisalo and a 2nd for Knies or Robertson after Bertuzzi and Domi get signed to inflated deals lol

 

[Micklebot]

We shouldn’t of traded him away.

He was UFA, no reason to keep him for 20 games.

 

[bicboi64]

If the Avs get taken out in 5 and Georgiev lets in some stinkers, I wonder if we could move Forsberg for Georgiev. They get some cap savings, we get a chance on a goaltender that is better than our current tandem.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

If the Avs get taken out in 5 and Georgiev lets in some stinkers, I wonder if we could move Forsberg for Georgiev. They get some cap savings, we get a chance on a goaltender that is better than our current tandem.

It's too difficult to get goalies right now. I can't see them moving on from Georgiev unless it's a blockbuster where they get a legitimate #1. His cap hit is low enough that they could bring in a second veteran goalie.

I could see Colorado or another team going after Forsberg as a #2 goalie. Forsberg has been very good on Ottawa up until this season. There aren't enough goalies to go around. Most teams have moved towards tandems, so they want 2 good goalies. Forsberg is on the final year of his contract, which should make him more desirable to some teams who just need a short term solution because an equivalent goalie in free agency is going to want term.

I am not suggesting we will get much of a return, but I don't think Forsberg is a negative value asset. Maybe we can get a 4th round pick or something like that.

If it's Chychrun for Ullmark, I could see something like Forsberg bundled in the trade to give Boston a veteran backup.

 

[bicboi64]

It's too difficult to get goalies right now. I can't see them moving on from Georgiev unless it's a blockbuster where they get a legitimate #1. His cap hit is low enough that they could bring in a second veteran goalie.

I could see Colorado or another team going after Forsberg as a #2 goalie. Forsberg has been very good on Ottawa up until this season. There aren't enough goalies to go around. Most teams have moved towards tandems, so they want 2 good goalies. Forsberg is on the final year of his contract, which should make him more desirable to some teams who just need a short term solution because an equivalent goalie in free agency is going to want term.

I am not suggesting we will get much of a return, but I don't think Forsberg is a negative value asset. Maybe we can get a 4th round pick or something like that.

If it's Chychrun for Ullmark, I could see something like Forsberg bundled in the trade to give Boston a veteran backup.

I lurked on the Avs forum and some fans want to move Rantanen for some assets so they can do a quick retool. I knew Rantanen was underwhelming these playoffs, but didn't know some fans viewed him as Marneresque.

I'd offer Chycrun, Forsberg, Norris, Kastelic and Boston's first for Rantanen and O'Connor.

If Sakic is smoking crack and accepts, I'll go nuts lol

Would love a Chycrun & Forsberg for Ullmark type deal too

 

[Loach]

I lurked on the Avs forum and some fans want to move Rantanen for some assets so they can do a quick retool. I knew Rantanen was underwhelming these playoffs, but didn't know some fans viewed him as Marneresque.

I'd offer Chycrun, Forsberg, Norris, Kastelic and Boston's first for Rantanen and O'Connor.

If Sakic is smoking crack and accepts, I'll go nuts lol

Would love a Chycrun & Forsberg for Ullmark type deal too

He has 1 year left on his deal I think.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

I lurked on the Avs forum and some fans want to move Rantanen for some assets so they can do a quick retool. I knew Rantanen was underwhelming these playoffs, but didn't know some fans viewed him as Marneresque.

I'd offer Chycrun, Forsberg, Norris, Kastelic and Boston's first for Rantanen and O'Connor.

If Sakic is smoking crack and accepts, I'll go nuts lol

Would love a Chycrun & Forsberg for Ullmark type deal too

Context might be that they would rather get assets than sign Rantanen at 13M+ with term.

I also think fans overrate what they will get for players, and that makes the prospect of moving them more tantalizing than it would be in reality.

They would be foolish to trade Rantanen if he wants to stay.

Unless we're acquiring him as a 1 year win or rebuild type move, I don't think he re-signs here.

 

[BigRig4]

A couple will be this summer in free agency:

Brandon Tanev - Seattle Kraken looking to offload

Nick Cousins- UFA

Ryan Lomberg - UFA

Ian Cole - UFA

Would happily take all 4.

 

[bicboi64]

He has 1 year left on his deal I think.

We'd get out of the Norris and Korpisalo contracts, that alone would be the plus. If we decide to move Rantanen for assets or other players, we could come out like bandits.

Its all moot though. Sakic has to go full Dorion to make a move like that lol

 

[Golden_Jet]

He was UFA, no reason to keep him for 20 games.

Then just sign him, unless he stated he wouldn’t sign.

 

[Senator Stanley]

It's too difficult to get goalies right now. I can't see them moving on from Georgiev unless it's a blockbuster where they get a legitimate #1. His cap hit is low enough that they could bring in a second veteran goalie.

I could see Colorado or another team going after Forsberg as a #2 goalie. Forsberg has been very good on Ottawa up until this season. There aren't enough goalies to go around. Most teams have moved towards tandems, so they want 2 good goalies. Forsberg is on the final year of his contract, which should make him more desirable to some teams who just need a short term solution because an equivalent goalie in free agency is going to want term.

I am not suggesting we will get much of a return, but I don't think Forsberg is a negative value asset. Maybe we can get a 4th round pick or something like that.

If it's Chychrun for Ullmark, I could see something like Forsberg bundled in the trade to give Boston a veteran backup.

Another way of putting it is, Forsberg has been very good* in Ottawa up until he blew out both knees. I just can't imagine a team - especially a team trying to win - having any desire to take on Forsberg and his cap hit. He didn't look like he belonged in the NHL last year.


*He really only had one good year, which of course Dorion extended him off of.

 

[Micklebot]

Then just sign him, unless he stated he wouldn’t sign.

I think you answered your own question.

He wasn't likely to extend, so we took the pick.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Another way of putting it is, Forsberg has been very good* in Ottawa up until he blew out both knees. I just can't imagine a team - especially a team trying to win - having any desire to take on Forsberg and his cap hit. He didn't look like he belonged in the NHL last year.


*He really only had one good year, which of course Dorion extended him off of.

Beggars can't be choosers.

There aren't many proven backup or #2 type goalies available. Forsberg played 30 games this season with an .890 save percentage. Here is a list of upcoming UFA goalies who played 10+ games with an .890+ save percentage.

PLAYER	TEAM	AGE	POS	HANDED	GP	G	A	P	P/GP	+/-	Sh	Sh%	TOI	W	L	SO	GAA	Sv%	CLAUSE	EXPIRY	CAP HIT	SALARY
1. Laurent Brossoit	WPG	31	G	Left	23	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	15	5	3	2.00	.927		UFA	$1,750,000	$1,750,000
2. Anthony Stolarz	FLA	30	G	Left	27	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	16	7	2	2.03	.925		UFA	$1,100,000	$1,100,000
3. David Rittich	LAK	31	G	Left	24	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	13	6	3	2.16	.921		UFA	$875,000	$875,000
4. Cam Talbot	LAK	36	G	Left	54	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	27	20	3	2.50	.913	NTC	UFA	$1,000,000	$1,000,000
5. Calvin Pickard	EDM	32	G	Left	23	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	12	7	1	2.45	.909		UFA	$762,500	$775,000
6. Kevin Lankinen	NSH	29	G	Left	24	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	11	6	1	2.82	.908		UFA	$2,000,000	$2,000,000
7. James Reimer	DET	36	G	Left	25	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	11	8	2	3.11	.904	M-NTC	UFA	$1,500,000	$1,500,000
8. Martin Jones	TOR	34	G	Left	22	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	11	8	2	2.87	.902		UFA	$875,000	$875,000
9. Alex Nedeljkovic	PIT	28	G	Left	38	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	18	7	1	2.97	.902		UFA	$1,500,000	$1,500,000
10. Scott Wedgewood	DAL	31	G	Left	32	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	16	7	0	2.85	.899		UFA	$1,000,000	$1,000,000
11. Kaapo Kähkönen	NJD	27	G	Left	37	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	7	24	1	3.64	.898		UFA	$2,750,000	$2,900,000
12. Ivan Prosvetov	COL	25	G	Left	11	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	4	3	0	3.16	.895		UFA Group 6	$775,000	$775,000
13. Casey DeSmith	VAN	32	G	Left	29	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	12	9	1	2.89	.895		UFA	$1,800,000	$1,900,000
14. Ilya Samsonov	TOR	27	G	Left	40	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	23	7	3	3.13	.890		UFA	$3,550,000	$3,550,000

Once you take away the top 3-5 goalie free agents, who will be in a position to get term and pick their destination, it's a real bottom of the barrel type crop. There simply are not a lot of options for proven NHL goalies. A chunk of these goalies will stay with their current teams. There might only be a few realistic options for someone who wants a proven 20-30+ game backup, but doesn't want to get into a bidding war for Stolarz, or given out a lot of term.

Come the draft, if a team can throw Ottawa a late pick for Forsberg, that's something someone is going to consider when you look at the above crop. If he had 2 or 3 years of term, I don't think he would be moveable. As a pending UFA, he will be a fit somewhere.