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People keep saying they wanted to build like Canes but keep defending getting middle 6 players.

Aho - 80 points
Svech - 70 points
Ehlers - 70 points (playing also on the 3rd line)
Jarvis - 66 points

that doesn't include Stank who is a star potential player whose coming out party was the playoffs. Hall and Blake at 50 points

Ottawa is still missing a high end winger who will get you those 70 points now with Brady gone


The canes also got slapped by the panthers so it might not even be enough to build this way
 
People keep saying they wanted to build like Canes but keep defending getting middle 6 players.

Aho - 80 points
Svech - 70 points
Ehlers - 70 points (playing also on the 3rd line)
Jarvis - 66 points

that doesn't include Stank who is a star potential player whose coming out party was the playoffs. Hall and Blake at 50 points

Ottawa is still missing a high end winger who will get you those 70 points now with Brady gone


The canes also got slapped by the panthers so it might not even be enough to build this way
If there is a top line winger available to us, we should absolutely try to get them. But I think many of us recognize there simply might not be one, in which case, getting a middle six player for now isn’t worse than doing nothing.

How many top line wingers are even available at this point? Robertson, maybe Marchenko, Knies… anyone else? It’s slim pickings here.
 
These teams are maximizing their assets

They have assets to maximize. We've had no prospects and for years now.
People keep saying they wanted to build like Canes but keep defending getting middle 6 players.

Aho - 80 points
Svech - 70 points
Ehlers - 70 points (playing also on the 3rd line)
Jarvis - 66 points

that doesn't include Stank who is a star potential player whose coming out party was the playoffs. Hall and Blake at 50 points

Ottawa is still missing a high end winger who will get you those 70 points now with Brady gone


The canes also got slapped by the panthers so it might not even be enough to build this way

Stank, Hall and Blake were a whole lot of nothing prior to this postseason lol.

Those guys caught lightning in a bottle. This is like Eklund, Pinto and Greig being our leading scorers in a playoff series. Sometimes the depth steps up.
 
If there is a top line winger available to us, we should absolutely try to get them. But I think many of us recognize there simply might not be one, in which case, getting a middle six player for now isn’t worse than doing nothing.

How many top line wingers are even available at this point? Robertson, maybe Marchenko, Knies… anyone else? It’s slim pickings here.
We should really be exploring Pettersson.... if Robertson is a no go. Even with him retained he can get back to 70 point season on a better team like ours imo

We should really be spending assets on players who can pop like Laf

Not go after guys like Debrusk. We already have a bunch of 40 point players in Foegele and Zetterlund who can't even get ice
 
They have assets to maximize. We've had no prospects and for years now.


Stank, Hall and Blake were a whole lot of nothing prior to this postseason lol.

Those guys caught lightning in a bottle. This is like Eklund, Pinto and Greig being our leading scorers in a playoff series. Sometimes the depth steps up.
Stankoven was a high ceiling prospect though hence why Dallas had to trade him for Rantanen.

He is not just some normal 40 point player. He is a guy who has scored tons in junior and in the ahl aswell as for canada in the world juniors.

Regardless of that Sens still need another 70 + point winger if they want to get back in the realm of the Canes.

We pretty much lost our Svech who is a big winger who plays a more power game
 
It’s crazy how the difference between being a physical team and a soft team is 1 player.
I dont think soft is the right word, but we don’t have any guys that can fight and hit.

Who on this team can lay the boom? Kleven for sure, other then that maybe Foegle? Grieg will cheap shot opponents but doesn’t hit a lot.

we do have a fast team with a lot of good forechecker though
 
They have assets to maximize. We've had no prospects and for years now.


Stank, Hall and Blake were a whole lot of nothing prior to this postseason lol.

Those guys caught lightning in a bottle. This is like Eklund, Pinto and Greig being our leading scorers in a playoff series. Sometimes the depth steps up.
We have picks prospects and money now

no more excuses. We blew our 9th on eklund so lets see what else we do.
 
Yeah, maybe find a better word, because multiple coaches have talked about him being tough as nails with what he plays through, the guy isn't soft. He's not physically imposing, or intimidating anybody but he's not shying away from contact or bailing on plays to avoid hits.

Let's go with physically imposing then. I don't disagree with what you said here for the rest of your post describing him, but I'll also add that an opposing player is likely going to have an easy time in the crease area battling against Chabot. His coverage there is fairly loose for my liking. I think he's the worst on the blue line in that regard. He's also pretty easy to pressure in our zone into making a mistake.

The Jensen pairing in the first season together mitigated a lot of this.

Its crazy how the difference between being a physical team and a soft team is 1 player.

Nobody claimed that? I think the team overall is not physically imposing. I just said Chabot is the first to come to mind. We're still not physically imposing even if Chabot is traded today.
 
We should really be exploring Pettersson.... if Robertson is a no go. Even with him retained he can get back to 70 point season on a better team like ours imo

We should really be spending assets on players who can pop like Laf

Not go after guys like Debrusk. We already have a bunch of 40 point players in Foegele and Zetterlund who can't even get ice
Rangers beat writer said Laf won’t be traded this summer today, so that’s probably off the table.

Pettersson I wouldn’t do at this point. Too risky. He probably wouldn’t come here either.
 
Stankoven was a high ceiling prospect though hence why Dallas had to trade him for Rantanen.

He is not just some normal 40 point player. He is a guy who has scored tons in junior and in the ahl aswell as for canada in the world juniors.

Regardless of that Sens still need another 70 + point winger if they want to get back in the realm of the Canes.

We pretty much lost our Svech who is a big winger who plays a more power game

There are tons of high ceiling prospects that don’t hit their potential. Like yeah he’s a good prospect but he’s also a pipsqueak and there were questions about his game.

I agree in a perfect world we need first line wingers but they aren’t available and if they are we either can’t afford them or they won’t come here. So is what it is.

Svech has always been light years better than Brady.
 
I think we NEED to do something about our RD before another forward. I like our top 9. Need a 4th liner

but i think we have to get a 20min RD. Spence doesn't mesh with Chabot or Sanderson imo and could regress as well back to a bottom pair guy,
 
We have picks prospects and money now

no more excuses. We blew our 9th on eklund so lets see what else we do.

What prospects? Yak is the only one that maybe has top 10 first round pick value. We absolutely should have traded him with the 9OA but we didn’t so now we’re back to square 1.

Yak + 25th probably gets us like Laf or MacTavish. Is that worth it? Maybe.
 
I dont think soft is the right word, but we don’t have any guys that can fight and hit.

Who on this team can lay the boom? Kleven for sure, other then that maybe Foegle? Grieg will cheap shot opponents but doesn’t hit a lot.

we do have a fast team with a lot of good forechecker though
Maybe that’s why they are looking to replace Spence with a more physical D.
 
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Its crazy how the difference between being a physical team and a soft team is 1 player.
They were soft last year as well. It was open season on Sens defenders down the stretch when Sanderson, Chabot, Yakemchuk and Gilbert were all injured on plays that nobody had to answer for.

I wouldn't even bother adding a guy like AJ Greer, honestly. Adding one middleweight punching bag isn't going to change much.

Soft Skill Staios has a different vision for the team.
 
People keep saying they wanted to build like Canes but keep defending getting middle 6 players.

Aho - 80 points
Svech - 70 points
Ehlers - 70 points (playing also on the 3rd line)
Jarvis - 66 points

that doesn't include Stank who is a star potential player whose coming out party was the playoffs. Hall and Blake at 50 points

Ottawa is still missing a high end winger who will get you those 70 points now with Brady gone


The canes also got slapped by the panthers so it might not even be enough to build this way
I mean,

Stu 83 pts
Batherson 71 pts
Cozens 59 pts
We had Brady as another 70-80 pts guy, so pretty damn similar top end before the trade.

Eklund was coming off an injury this year scoring only 53 (56 pts pace) but last year he played at a 62 pts pace, and is 23, 70 pts is certainly possible from him.

We certainly need to keep improving, I'm sure you'd lament adding a 33 year old pacing at 43 pts as just some middle 6 player at best like Hall was when Car added him.

There seems to be a pretty constant grass is always greener theme going on around here. Like, we aren't as good as the Stanley cup champs who only lost three games? Oh no, we must be the worst team ever....
 
What prospects? Yak is the only one that maybe has top 10 first round pick value. We absolutely should have traded him with the 9OA but we didn’t so now we’re back to square 1.

Yak + 25th probably gets us like Laf or MacTavish. Is that worth it? Maybe.
That’s not true. Yak has way more value than that and he’s not being moved unless it’s for a great player.
 
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Maybe that’s why they are looking to replace Spence with a more physical D.
Personally I don’t think the team is looking to replace Spence. He and Kleven Spence were great last year. Why change that. i think they are testing the market while trying to get him to lower his contract demands.

Another heavy top 4 D would be great. Look how well that worked out for Carolina this year when the brought in Miller.
 
That’s not true. Yak has way more value than that and he’s not being moved unless it’s for a great player.

He was a 7OA pick and at best that’s what his value is today. There are a lot of good dmen in this draft.

He could have been packaged with the 9OA and the 25OA for a really big fish but I don’t think there are any available. And the ones who are, like Knies and Robertson, are not gonna come here or be traded to us.
 
They were soft last year as well. It was open season on Sens defenders down the stretch when Sanderson, Chabot, Yakemchuk and Gilbert were all injured on plays that nobody had to answer for.

I wouldn't even bother adding a guy like AJ Greer, honestly. Adding one middleweight punching bag isn't going to change much.

Soft Skill Staios has a different vision for the team.

This is my only criticism of Steve so far. I think he's done a great job at adding to the team despite the limitations placed on him by his awful predecessor.

But I don't think this team is physically imposing enough to do anything in the playoffs even if our skill level goes up. I'm not advocating for a team full of 6'5 230 pound players, but there needs to be a balance between grit and skill. We don't have that balance at all.

I still trust Steve, I'm just being critical.
 
He was a 7OA pick and at best that’s what his value is today. There are a lot of good dmen in this draft.

He could have been packaged with the 9OA and the 25OA for a really big fish but I don’t think there are any available. And the ones who are, like Knies and Robertson, are not gonna come here or be traded to us.
Knies has no clauses and Toronto was about to trade him to Montreal, and speculation is possibly with Buffalo. I don’t think Knies to Ottawa would have been out of the question.
 
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Knies has no clauses and Toronto was about to trade him to Montreal, and speculation is possibly with Buffalo. I don’t think Knies to Ottawa would have been out of the question.

I don’t trust the Montreal rumor personally.

Edit: but to be clear, if he was, Yak+9OA+something would have been a win for us
 

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