GDT: Free Agency: Dr Strangedubas or How We Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Nerd

[OnMyOwn]

I’ve also been a supporter of nylander and hope he sticks around. He has the offensive skillset that group needs…if he can put it together.

 

[BigEezyE22]

I think it's @Empoleon8771 who likes Evolving Wild, but anyway, here's what they had to say:

Dude is retracting the statement that he was told Dubas didn't have a great day? So he wasn't told that?

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Dude is retracting the statement that he was told Dubas didn't have a great day? So he wasn't told that?

I think he's saying that he was told that, but that his numbers don't actually bear that opinion out.

 

[BigEezyE22]

I think he's saying that he was told that, but that his numbers don't actually bear that opinion out.

Then he wouldn't be retracting anything, just refuting opinions of others

 

[deakka]

Jarry signing was really bad. I ciuks have done without Eller.its not like he unmovable tho. And if we're out of it by the deadline in his last year he seems like a prime canditate a contender will give us a mid-round pick for at the deadline.

I'd say this tho. Werw. Ut secondary scoring gotta come from? And who will move up the lineup when injures hit?
We are absolutely void of talent in our bottom 6 it's almost embarrassing. Now we are out cap (over the cap even) but I would have liked for us to take a shot on a reclamation project that MIGHT provide offense (yamamoto, comtois)

 

[BusinessGoose]

No we aren’t.

Well, your username checks out at least

Half the fans will also check out by December

Then he wouldn't be retracting anything, just refuting opinions of others

Lol. The guy is obviously stupid anyway. Whether he thought or someone else thought Dubas "did well".... He or they are wrong

 

[Turin]

Saw this on another site…I didn’t watch…

“I happened to watch the Steve Dangle podcast last night on you tube. But he really lambasted KD for the Graves and Jarry signings. Graves too much term and possibly money. In fact during the podcast he supposedly got a text from an anonymous NHL executive that stated KD made a big mistake with this signing. The general thought was, what was KD thinking. With Jarry too much term and just not a good signing with his history.”

I get being surprised by the Jarry signing but the Graves signing was totally fair. That anonymous executive that texts him is probably someone quite insignificant lol

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Jarry deal is risky but so is the goalie market at large. Devil you know.

Jarry needs to perform. We know he can. Just needs to do it consistently. I fail to see the better option that was out there. Hellyebuck would’ve cost a lot of pieces plus a 8x9-10M extension.

I would have preferred a 2-3 year term but the 5 year length also gives you a nice price certainty if he does figure it out.

I think we’re gonna like Graves. Do not like Eller deal.

I still think Dubas hasn’t done what this team has so desperately needed for a long time, which is bringing in another star level option up front. I hope we bring in EK, but still doesn’t solve that.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Then he wouldn't be retracting anything, just refuting opinions of others

Sometimes when people say things like "I've been told that...", they aren't saying that they know something, but that the other person does and that they trust that other person's opinion. So I think we was saying that without knowing anything, he trusted that person's opinion, but then after looking into it, decided that that person was wrong and that he shouldn't have trusted their opinion.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Now that Twitter has stopped being shitty like it was yesterday, I can actually go through and look at the analytics opinions on the Penguins signings. The thing that surprised me was that Eller is actually not as washed as I thought he was.



Is he anything special? No, not particularly. But a 32% projected WAR% is around a 3rd liner or a borderline 3rd/4th liner, which really isn't bad. I thought Eller was completely spent and that contract was my least favorite move, but it actually seems like he's still an effective defensive bottom-6 center.

He's not an elite defensive 3C anymore like he was in his prime, but I feel like he's still a legitimately viable 3C that fits how Sullivan wants to use his 3C. I'd call him a borderline 3C/4C, on par with what Blueger used to be, but that's not catastrophic to have as your 3C.

 

[deakka]

Hellberg signing should mean desmith On the move? Or are we going
Jarry/desmith
Vajm/Hellberg
Blomqvist/Gauthier?

Usually we go with one veteran and a prospect i WBS

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Wouldn’t the 50% percentile be an average 13th forward?

 

[Pens x]

We signed a bunch of whatever players and gave a lame goalie a 5 year extension.

Yesterday sucked.

Trust the process.

(I had to hear that from this site for 2 years during Hextall’s reign of terror)

Dubas has been a giant disappointment so far, based on the moves made thus far.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Wouldn’t the 50% percentile be an average 13th forward?

No 50th percentile is a middle-6 forward or a middle pair D.

 

[Pens x]

I think the biggest issue they see is that the PK and defensive performance of the bottom six was ****. Smith/Acciari/Nieto/Eller/Graves are all good PKers. A benefit to this is Rust may not have to PK now, which will be good for his production.

Sully will be the first coach to win a cup solely on PK skillz. Dude is a renaissance man.

 

[Empoleon8771]

On the topic of me calling Eller "what Blueger used to be":



Actually that ended up being pretty close

 

[Malkinstheman]

I wonder what the plan for 4C is. Dubas specifically called Acciari a winger in his presser. I hope it isnt just Carter

 

[Darren McCord]

Now that Twitter has stopped being shitty like it was yesterday, I can actually go through and look at the analytics opinions on the Penguins signings. The thing that surprised me was that Eller is actually not as washed as I thought he was.



Is he anything special? No, not particularly. But a 32% projected WAR% is around a 3rd liner or a borderline 3rd/4th liner, which really isn't bad. I thought Eller was completely spent and that contract was my least favorite move, but it actually seems like he's still an effective defensive bottom-6 center.

He's not an elite defensive 3C anymore like he was in his prime, but I feel like he's still a legitimately viable 3C that fits how Sullivan wants to use his 3C. I'd call him a borderline 3C/4C, on par with what Blueger used to be, but that's not catastrophic to have as your 3C.

Colorado said he was decent for them. I think Ellers is Bonino at this point. Probably paid a little too much for him but I hope he ends up the 4th line center by the end of the summer.

 

[Pens x]

Can’t wait for Lars Eller to be our second line center when Geno gets hurt.

 

[Darren McCord]

I wonder what the plan for 4C is. Dubas specifically called Acciari a winger in his presser. I hope it isnt just Carter

I hope more moves come and its Eller. I would honestly rather start the season with DOC centering line 3.

He was center at the worlds

 

[Lust for Life]

I read somewhere that PIT lost 17 times last season while having a lead going into the third. If that's true, I can see why improving the defensive aspect is one of the key things to focus on.

 

[Bishop7979]

Man, it’s like,

is a eller, Acari, neito an upgrade on the 4th line we had last year? Absolutely, if they were signed to be a 4th line and kill penalties only.

is graves at that price a great move to replace dumo? Absolutely, it would have been better if he were a petry replacement not a partner.

was the smith trade a good move? Totally, would have loved it more if zucker was also resigned.

but hextall left this team with the crap sandwich of granlund and carter, that’s money that should be free to build an actual 3rd line alongside O’Conner or sign a player to bump smith down a line. For their combined salaries you could have added something some mix of nyquist, Hathaway, bunting, o’ Reilly, wood, duchene, geekie or prob domi.

and thats what sucks, if you get the guys you got yesterday AND can build a good 3rd line this is a great offseason, instead look for granlund and eller to fight it out for which guy who shouldnt play center in the nhl anymore centers our 3rd line.

picture a world without carter/granlund…

rakell Sid duchene
jake Geno rust
o’conner o’rielly smith
eller Acari neito

I ’m pretty sure this roster would be cheaper that what we will ice this season….. and significantly better.

 

[Empoleon8771]

ERod to Florida on a 4 year, $3 million AAV deal.

I definitely would have done that

 

[Malkinstheman]

I feel like Kampf was the primary target for Dubas but they had to pivot to Eller once

Now that Twitter has stopped being shitty like it was yesterday, I can actually go through and look at the analytics opinions on the Penguins signings. The thing that surprised me was that Eller is actually not as washed as I thought he was.



Is he anything special? No, not particularly. But a 32% projected WAR% is around a 3rd liner or a borderline 3rd/4th liner, which really isn't bad. I thought Eller was completely spent and that contract was my least favorite move, but it actually seems like he's still an effective defensive bottom-6 center.

He's not an elite defensive 3C anymore like he was in his prime, but I feel like he's still a legitimately viable 3C that fits how Sullivan wants to use his 3C. I'd call him a borderline 3C/4C, on par with what Blueger used to be, but that's not catastrophic to have as your 3C.

I was going to say that I would have preffered Kampf if he made it to UFA but looking at his card, damn Eller is better in almost every metric.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I feel like Kampf was the primary target for Dubas but they had to pivot to Eller once

I was going to say that I would have preffered Kampf if he made it to UFA but looking at his card, damn Eller is better in almost every metric.

Yeah and I was saying all along how I was hoping for Kerfoot and it's the same story:



I feel like there isn't a notable difference between the tier of guys like Kerfoot, Eller, Blueger and Kampf. You would have had to go a tier above them to get what most here would call a good 3C, and I'm not entirely sure who was available for that outside of ROR.