Gurglesons
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I remain unconvinced. Hope he works out for us. I hate what we did in UFA way worse than anything we did while Hextall was here.
Maybe we salvage it by dumping Granlund and Carter. But that’s me kidding myself.
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I remain unconvinced. Hope he works out for us. I hate what we did in UFA way worse than anything we did while Hextall was here.
Maybe we salvage it by dumping Granlund and Carter. But that’s me kidding myself.
Zbynek
Jarry friggin sucks dude
Well i agree there. As much as I love the 4.5 million allocation on the Graves deal I hate where the other 10 million went yesterday. We don't have our priorities straight at all. But I am pleasantly surprised to see Graves is a Pittsburgh Penguin
Gurglesons
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I feel like Graves is going to be incredibly miscast in his role.
HandshakeLine
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I’ll confess the second Sully started talking about helping to pick the GM, I knew this was coming. Dumb motherf***er just can’t help himself.
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Fro what I’ve read on the Devils boards, he’s a guy who loves to jump into the play and make risky plays. (I’m okay with that as long as his successes outnumber the failures. We need other outlets to generate offense from) They say Marino was the responsible one of the pairing.
One thing I won’t miss are Dumo’s slap-pass-redirects that were so obvious and readable that high school players would be able to defend against them. Dude had zero deception or most in his game.
And so many times…like at least once a game, he would have an open lane from 25-30 feet out and he’d just wrist it to the end boards where our guy was outnumbered. Between him and Rust, I don’t know who killed more possessions when the first pairing and L1 were out there.
One thing I won’t miss are Dumo’s slap-pass-redirects that were so obvious and readable that high school players would be able to defend against them. Dude had zero deception or most in his game.
And so many times…like at least once a game, he would have an open lane from 25-30 feet out and he’d just wrist it to the end boards where our guy was outnumbered. Between him and Rust, I don’t know who killed more possessions when the first pairing and L1 were out there.
It is what is in your heart, man.
I think Graves is the least problematic of the signings... he's a shutdown defensemen who plays 20 min a night. I think he pretty much played with Marino and was able to anchor that line (on defense)
We still have same defensive overload system that will allow teams to endlessly cycle and our Bottom 6 has less skill than your average beer league... I'd bet money they score == or <= to 2022. Someone mentioned it above... if 1 of our 4 skilled goal scorers goes down. This team is done.
Also, for 5-6 years Sullivan has been using this turtle system and it hasn't worked and it won't work next year either. @Gurglesons ... you said it best we now have:
Line 1- Sid
Line 2- Geno
PK Line 3
PK Line 4
Yikes...
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So the stats say he’s a defensive dman but Devils fans say Marino was the responsible one and Graves was the risky guy. What’s the truth?
Maybe I'm in a f***ing fever dream but did we really sign Lars Eller for 2.5 million for 2 years...
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Have you ever watched Dumo pinch? Who f***ing cares... Dumo only remaining skill was tripping any time he skated. He was legit awful. (My current expectation is that Graves has some amount of balance on his skates...)
Same coaches, same systems, with old players with no offensive skill beyond L1 and L2.
It will end the same way...We have posters trying to legitimize Lars Ellers as an actual hockey player. He's basically Jeff Carter at this point.
Maybe we jettison Granlund/Petry/Carter but I think Sullivan is going to "prove" us wrong like he did with Jack Johnson.
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"Good at the PK. Our PK was too volatile last season."
AuroraBorealis
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Carter's ES defending and PK'ing is nowhere close to that. Like yeah, Eller's an overpayment, but he's not completely useless like Carter.
His defense also had an upsurge last year, which is promising.
Carter's ES defending and PK'ing is nowhere close to that. Like yeah, Eller's an overpayment, but he's not completely useless like Carter.
His defense also had an upsurge last year, which is promising.
Dude... both are f***ing corpses on the ice.
Both are bad ... it's okay to tell the truth. One can barely play defense the other can barely play. Why f***ing sign either....
Gurglesons
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I feel like you and I live in an alternate universe versus some of the posters on here.
Like I’m willing to give this team and coach a shot unlike some of the naysayers, but like how many times does a dog need to bite me to learn it is a bad dog.
AuroraBorealis
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I see Carter at like the 30 percentile at ES defense last year. Eller was at 80. And that's also factoring in Carter getting easier competition.
Eller is borderline elite at PK'ing too. I don't see how you can say he can barely defend. That's nonsense.
These guys aren't the same. Yes, Eller won't score much but we can use him to hold leads for sure. And if you watched last season, you'd remember that was a HUGE problem.
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The most consistent problem with this team across multiple GMs and owners is that the FO loves to bring in tons of vet reclamation projects/gambles. You can take that gamble on Eller, sure. But you already have Carter, who is nigh-unmoveable. So, why? We've got like 4 4Cs under contract now (DOC, Eller, Carter, Acari), and the bottom six is now projected to cost us like 14 million, maybe more depending on what DOC gets, and for what?
And again, why sign these kind of guys on the first day of free agency instead of waiting for bargains? It makes no sense to me.
Eller is 34 years old...
2022 he had 24 points in 896 minutes of hockey. xg% 48
2023 he had 18 points 1050 minutes of hockey. xg% 50
His expected goals/points is supposed to go further down... now everyone thinks he's going to be a good 3rd line center. He's also lower third in all the Corsi/Fenwick stats. ERod smoked him.
This sounds like the same posters that lauded Granlund.
I agree with what you said... i understand the the first few 4th liners but piling on a bunch of really mediocre 4th liner-type players makes no sense.
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HandshakeLine
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And let's not forget expensive! DOC's probably looking at around 2 million per too.
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Honestly as I mentioned in the other thread Acciari is probably the signing I'm most excited about this year, and that's mostly because he has a sensible contract for a bottom 6 physical hitting W/C.
Which means again he'll be cast on L3 as a finisher and then his icetime will plummet below 8 minutes a night when he doesn't pot 20/20.
Which means again he'll be cast on L3 as a finisher and then his icetime will plummet below 8 minutes a night when he doesn't pot 20/20.
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