The Old Master
come and take it.
could be longer. we might just get good enough that we don't hit bottom, and never get bad enough to draft the game changers.Every year we wait, is another year on the backend.
could be longer. we might just get good enough that we don't hit bottom, and never get bad enough to draft the game changers.Every year we wait, is another year on the backend.
It's very simple. I want to get emotionally attached to the next wave of core players. I want to get attached to a coach and GM who are hungry to win. I want the focus to return to seeking championships, not increased nepotism every year.Pens have 3 of them. I know you know this, because you know. And you're super cool. But I think Vegas would lick our balls to have 3 vs 1.
What's the point of being a fan if you don't have an emotional attachment to the team and players? I ain't window shopping for a new watch. I find the way Vegas ships people out as soon as they have a shiny new ruptured spleen to play with a bit off-putting, from a human perspective.
But, and I can't overstate how confused I am: if you aren't emotionally attached to the team and players, and you don't care about watching your team's most-important players finish with your team, and you really enjoy the vegas way of doing things, why the f*** aren't you just a fan of Vegas? Like, if you don't care about the attachments, go be unattached. Why care about Pittsburgh?
(to be super duper clear, I ain't gatekeeping fandom here, but the way you've described your feelings towards the Penguins' greats and your disdain for them sticking around, you seem to be a fan of the process more than anything, so.... like... why not go cheer for better processes? Hell, the way Tampa just got rid of Stamkos should have you harder than diamond right now)
I absolutely loathe the idea of acquiring or re-signing guys with the idea to flip them later. Way too many variables involved from play dropping off, injuries, actually needing to find a team with the cap to take said player as well as the desire to trade for him, etc.
I'm not against signing Tarasenko as well, not sure how but find the space and do it! Sens signed him to a 5 million dollar deal last season and returned a 4th and 3rd. Hayes already got us a 2nd, which should be a decent pick from St Louis.Dubas tried to trade Jarry and had no dance partners. I think you'll get more for Pettersson at the TDL.
Signing Tarasenko improves playoffs chances...if he doesn't, you sell him at the TDL for likely more than you get taking on a bad player. Which we also did with Hayes. So it seems like Dubas is doing most of the things you want him to be doing.
Yes, the next draft will help.
he was cheaper last off season when he inked in Colorado for 1.5 after a solid season in Jersey the year beforeGod damn NJ gets Tatar for cheap.
I guess i should just accept players doesn't wanna come here unless we overpay.
I'm not the least bit sad about Tatar anymore. He STUNK last year. $1.8mil is too much for him as is.
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It's rebuild. The answer is rebuild. Trying to win now, with half the canoe over the edge of the waterfall is f***ing stupid. But yeah, pick a lane (which it seems they have, finally).Loading…
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This board's obsession with Tatar last year was a little odd. You give a guy like Puus all season and a defined role and he could put up the same numbers. And I'm not a huge um... Puus believer.
It's rebuild. The answer is rebuild. Trying to win now, with half the canoe over the edge of the waterfall is f***ing stupid. But yeah, pick a lane (which it seems they have, finally).
Grant Clitsome.Dic Nowd guy?
*Cue Kyle Dubas signing Marcus Pettersson*
"It's fine his value is still gonna be the same in 4 years at the TDL"Dic Nowd guy?
*Cue Kyle Dubas signing Marcus Pettersson*
"It's fine his value is still gonna be the same in 4 years at the TDL"
He should be shopping everyone, and steeling himself to deal with Sullivan's wrath next summer after he deals Rust the second his NTC expires.If we are in a rebuild, Kyle should move EK65 this summer. His value is going to plummet under Sully.
He should be shopping everyone, and steeling himself to deal with Sullivan's wrath next summer after he deals Rust the second his NTC expires.
Dude got cooked fast.
I think it's more "I gotta fool dumb yinzers into still buying tickets" but yeah, I think there's a reluctance to accept anything short of a strong return. If you find a partner and the return is acceptable, but not stellar, I think you still do it. Sooner this team gets to being awful, the sooner they can roll the dice that the top-3 or top-5 picks will pan out and they can work through the rebuild.“The only thing that is really important to us: If we are moving players out, the return has to be good,” Dubas said.
AKA. I'm worried what Capfriendly says about me because I need to look good.
Would way rather have Tarasenko no matter how limited Tank is now.I'm not the least bit sad about Tatar anymore. He STUNK last year. $1.8mil is too much for him as is.
I think it's more "I gotta fool dumb yinzers into still buying tickets" but yeah, I think there's a reluctance to accept anything short of a strong return. If you find a partner and the return is acceptable, but not stellar, I think you still do it. Sooner this team gets to being awful, the sooner they can roll the dice that the top-3 or top-5 picks will pan out and they can work through the rebuild.