Value of: Frederik Andersen

[LondonKendrick]

Auction for Andersen, what would you trade for him.

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[Zegs2sendhelp]

You do realize no goalie is going to do well in front of that defense

 

[Maukkis]

Toronto's 2017 1st for patience would be a good trade.

It has been a whopping six games. Andersen has a horrible D core in front of him. The team is young. Did anyone expect a Vezina type of season from him?

Andersen in Anaheim had defensemen to work with, as well as a good back-up. Why would Andersen had changed that drastically during one offseason?

I think Dangle actually said it well in a recent video if his. If a team is consistently letting a ton of goals in, maybe there's something else to it than just a goalie, who just happened to finish his last season in Anaheim with almost .920 SV%.

Acquiring Andersen was the right thing to do. Now it's just a matter of time and other moves when the team in front of him can offer any support to him.

 

[iBELEAF]

Conditional 7th rounder

 

[tarheelhockey]

It's a legitimate topic, if you don't want to talk about it just keep moving.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

i would trade nothing for him, as he is not needed.

although i would expect TML would need a goalie back, enroth is not the answer

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

I love how Rielly/Gardiner/Zaitsev/Carrick get so much hype in other threads, then when it comes to threads about Andersen the excuse to why he has been brutal is because of the defence.

 

[Arthuros]

I think it's the actual goaltending system that's affecting Andersen the most. I don't watch Leaf games regularly, but I heard he's being much more aggressive, which he never was in Anaheim aside from going out to play the puck behind the net.

 

[AuraSphere]

I love how Rielly/Gardiner/Zaitsev/Carrick get so much hype in other threads, then when it comes to threads about Andersen the excuse to why he has been brutal is because of the defence.

Rielly and Zaitsev are the only good ones, whoever hyped up Carrick is a joke and doesn't watch games.

Gardiner is alright.

That's 3/6 D that are actually decent. When half your D squad sucks, you can blame the D

 

[Legend123]

when u pay cheap u get cheap things. Toronto's went the cheap way and expect big things lol

 

[Morgs]

I think it's the actual goaltending system that's affecting Andersen the most. I don't watch Leaf games regularly, but I heard he's being much more aggressive, which he never was in Anaheim aside from going out to play the puck behind the net.

Here's a pretty good article as to why this guy think's Andersen is struggling.

http://theleafsnation.com/2016/10/2...et-frederik-andersen-out-of-the-net-right-now

Short version:
He believes Andersen is playing through pain in his shoulder, and it's easier for Andersen to cut off the angle on high shots playing more aggressive.

 

[Vipers31]

I love how Rielly/Gardiner/Zaitsev/Carrick get so much hype in other threads, then when it comes to threads about Andersen the excuse to why he has been brutal is because of the defence.

I agree, that makes little sense. The shortcomings especially of Gardiner compared to his valuation seem way too evident. The Tampa game was a rather perfect example. Who cares whether he helps create a couple medium quality shots when his missed assignment / adventurous defensive positioning results in a near-certain goal against...?

 

[GOAT AINEC]

Only Toronto was desperate enough to want that scrub.

 

[Morgs]

Rielly and Zaitsev are the only good ones, whoever hyped up Carrick is a joke and doesn't watch games.

Gardiner is alright.

That's 3/6 D that are actually decent. When half your D squad sucks, you can blame the D

If this is serious you clearly don't watch games. He's been better than Gardiner at what Gardiner does best

 

[Avs44]

Rielly and Zaitsev are the only good ones, whoever hyped up Carrick is a joke and doesn't watch games.

Gardiner is alright.

That's 3/6 D that are actually decent. When half your D squad sucks, you can blame the D

Rielly has looked pretty bad defensively this year in the two games I watched. Is that just me being wrong / an outlier, or has he struggled in his own end? Just from what I've seen, it looks like the Leafs need a top shutdown defender to stabilize the entire back end.

 

[Raymoondo]

when u pay cheap u get cheap things. Toronto's went the cheap way and expect big things lol

How is giving up a first + 2nd paying cheap?

 

[Morgs]

Rielly has looked pretty bad defensively this year in the two games I watched. Is that just me being wrong / an outlier, or has he struggled in his own end? Just from what I've seen, it looks like the Leafs need a top shutdown defender to stabilize the entire back end.

So far he's playing the best hockey he's ever played.

 

[Markus078]

Rielly has looked pretty bad defensively this year in the two games I watched. Is that just me being wrong / an outlier, or has he struggled in his own end? Just from what I've seen, it looks like the Leafs need a top shutdown defender to stabilize the entire back end.

Stoner is available I think.

 

[Arthuros]

Regardless of what the reason is for Andersen's struggles, his contract is pure poison at the moment. Until he starts playing as well as he used to despite the challenges, he'll go the way of every Leaf goalie since CuJo, probably.

 

[Liferleafer]

I agree with everyone here....6 games under a new coach....with a new system....on a new team....a team that is rebuilding....that's clearly enough of a sample size to crucify Andersen. I will grab the pitch forks!! Come on everybody!!!

 

[Not So Mighty]

I agree with everyone here....6 games under a new coach....with a new system....on a new team....a team that is rebuilding....that's clearly enough of a sample size to crucify Andersen. I will grab the pitch forks!! Come on everybody!!!

This guy gets it.

 

[leaflover]

I love how Rielly/Gardiner/Zaitsev/Carrick get so much hype in other threads, then when it comes to threads about Andersen the excuse to why he has been brutal is because of the defence.

If you ever decide to watch you'll see a collective team failure defensively. It'll get sorted out once they develop chemistry and gain experience.

 

[Raym11]

This guy gets it.

he forgot a team with no defensive presence


They just kind of skate around and watch the other team

 

[Backpack]

Bernier, stoner, and a 2nd

 

[Liferleafer]

he forgot a team with no defensive presence


They just kind of skate around and watch the other team

I will trade you Hunwick and Polak for 3 stale donuts.....deal?