Injury Report: Freddie Andersen to be out until early February or March following knee surgery (return Jan 17)

[Blueline Bomber]

Yall are funny. The dude BLEW it in the playofffs, takes forever to recover from mystery injures (sans the blood clot thing) and is predictibly injured all the time while really being not much better than any other starter we've had over the years who relies on our defense.

I mean, if he cant handle the stress of being a pro athlete, then move on.

And knowing precisely what survivor's guilt is isn't a "tough guy persona" Go f*** yourself, how about that for direct? There's maybe one person on this board who knows what my service record is. Sorry not sorry if I can't relate to a chronically injured goalie who takes half a season to come back from a hang nail because he's sad or doesn't feel sparkly. This is pro sports. Not the local amazon office.

No one questioned your service record. I simply say that BECAUSE of that record, you’ve likely had contact with someone who’s experienced survivor’s guilt. You’ve also likely had contact with someone who’s experienced depression or suicidal thoughts. To my understanding, that kind of thing is quite commonplace among those returning from combat.

So what I’m saying is, if you can relate to those people, those who are dealing with their own brain turning on them, making them worse off, it shouldn’t take too much effort to relate to Freddie, if he is indeed dealing with a similar issue.

 

[Borsig]

No one questioned your service record. I simply say that BECAUSE of that record, you’ve likely had contact with someone who’s experienced survivor’s guilt. You’ve also likely had contact with someone who’s experienced depression or suicidal thoughts. To my understanding, that kind of thing is quite commonplace among those returning from combat.

So what I’m saying is, if you can relate to those people, those who are dealing with their own brain turning on them, making them worse off, it shouldn’t take too much effort to relate to Freddie, if he is indeed dealing with a similar issue.

Look, I dont expect those who never served on a two way range to laugh at comparing a headcase goalie to someone who lost battle buddies or had to deal with the issues of the sandbox while having lifelong health issues and having $43 in your checking account at the end of the month and a busted tranny on your 07 F150.

Sorry - the two just don't compare to me. It was time to get rid of Andersen after the playoffs last year. Yet here we are. Still talking about it and still "giving him time".

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Over the line Freddie, mark it zero!

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Look, I dont expect those who never served on a two way range to laugh at comparing a headcase goalie to someone who lost battle buddies or had to deal with the issues of the sandbox while having lifelong health issues and having $43 in your checking account at the end of the month and a busted tranny on your 07 F150.

Sorry - the two just don't compare to me. It was time to get rid of Andersen after the playoffs last year. Yet here we are. Still talking about it and still "giving him time".

Mental health issues are mental health issues, regardless of who they affect. You keep bringing up money, but the chemicals in your brain don’t care how much or how little money you have.

 

[Borsig]

Mental health issues are mental health issues, regardless of who they affect. You keep bringing up money, but the chemicals in your brain don’t care how much or how little money you have.

Meanwhile, being broke and not having a way out gives you far more issues than having it. Not able to pay medical bills, house payments, and so on have a serious effect on mental health. Those are REAL problems.

Maybe we should just start calling him jitters. It's whatever. We're stuck with him, and PK is hurt and unless Perets pulls a miracle out of his ass and becomes and overnight phenom, well..... whatever

 

[HydratedByStormBrew]

projecting your service and experiences to degrade somebody else is certainly a look

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I have no idea if Freddy is having mental health issues or not. Setting that aside, let's stop acting like any of us know about mental health to the degree we can comment on what someone should or should not be experiencing. The mind is way too complex for us keyboard warriors try to be experts.

 

[HisIceness]

I am not him, but I think Freddie retires at seasons end unless some team out there gets really desperate. Man just can't stay healthy anymore

In the meantime, next man up

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I have no idea if Freddy is having mental health issues or not. Setting that aside, let's stop acting like any of us know about mental health to the degree we can comment on what someone should or should not be experiencing. The mind is way too complex for us keyboard warriors try to be experts.

And for all we know, it may just be a physical injury that got tweaked and extended his recovery time.

 

[The Faulker 27]

At least we don’t have a goalie controversy?

Can't have a goalie controversy if you don't have a goalie.

 

[Svechhammer]

Good lord, this thread took a turn

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

And for all we know, it may just be a physical injury that got tweaked and extended his recovery time.

Yes, I agree, that's why I said we have no idea and set that aside.

My point is that none of us here are qualified to speak to mental health issues. Period.

 

[Borsig]

projecting your service and experiences to degrade somebody else is certainly a look

Boy thats a stretch, innit?

Cause clearly that's what went on. Clearly.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I’m not wading into the deep end of this mess, but I would note there is a LONG history of mental illness among NHL goalies. We joke about how only the crazy guys would want to stand in net and stop pucks, and there may be some grain of truth in that, but it mostly seems to work the other way around. These guys are wound tight as a bedspring and publicly abused for the slightest mistake. They very, very rarely walk away as the hero at the end of the story. It’s a job that’s almost custom designed to break a man down mentally.

That doesn’t mean Freddie has these issues. But he would be one of many if he did.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I’m not wading into the deep end of this mess, but I would note there is a LONG history of mental illness among NHL goalies. We joke about how only the crazy guys would want to stand in net and stop pucks, and there may be some grain of truth in that, but it mostly seems to work the other way around. These guys are wound tight as a bedspring and publicly abused for the slightest mistake. They very, very rarely walk away as the hero at the end of the story. It’s a job that’s almost custom designed to break a man down mentally.

That doesn’t mean Freddie has these issues. But he would be one of many if he did.

On the other end of that, you can’t tell me Sidney Crosby doesn’t have mental health issues that if it wasn’t making him better at hockey he’d be heavily medicated. He’s a walking billboard for OCD, but because its sports we call it “superstition”.

 

[Ole Gil]

And for all we know, it may just be a physical injury that got tweaked and extended his recovery time.

That seems like the obvious answer.

Hard to get 'mental health issue' out of week to week lower body injury. Does he think his legs are covered by bees? He's a big 35 year old goalie playing a position that has a lot of injuries.

People forget Raanta is the same age as Freddy. Hopefully, he's health at the end of the season, because he gives the team the best chance to win.

 

[LakeLivin]

That seems like the obvious answer.

Hard to get 'mental health issue' out of week to week lower body injury. Does he think his legs are covered by bees? He's a big 35 year old goalie playing a position that has a lot of injuries.

People forget Raanta is the same age as Freddy. Hopefully, he's health at the end of the season, because he gives the team the best chance to win.

Gotta admit, I didn't have "hallucinating that bees are covering his legs" on my possible injury bingo card!

 

[Blueline Bomber]

That seems like the obvious answer.

Hard to get 'mental health issue' out of week to week lower body injury. Does he think his legs are covered by bees? He's a big 35 year old goalie playing a position that has a lot of injuries.

People forget Raanta is the same age as Freddy. Hopefully, he's health at the end of the season, because he gives the team the best chance to win.

Except it's not a week-to-week lower body injury anymore, at least according to RBA. And I only brought up the mental health possibly because I know it's caused him to miss some time in the past. It may have just been a temporary thing. After all, he was available for the other two playoff years he's played for us.

 

[AD Skinner]

It’s almost like if we as a society prioritized helping people so they wouldn’t need to be in a situation where they had no money and no support system then that wouldn’t happen

 

[Svechhammer]

Gonna need to trade for a backup

 

[Derailed75]

Look, I dont expect those who never served on a two way range to laugh at comparing a headcase goalie to someone who lost battle buddies or had to deal with the issues of the sandbox while having lifelong health issues and having $43 in your checking account at the end of the month and a busted tranny on your 07 F150.

Sorry - the two just don't compare to me. It was time to get rid of Andersen after the playoffs last year. Yet here we are. Still talking about it and still "giving him time".

While I don't disagree there really wasn't many viable replacements

 

[Highest Boss]

Gonna need to trade for a backup

Didnt he play the entire game he was injured in? And now we're talking surgery?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Gonna need to trade for a backup

Wow, such crazy advancements in medicine that they now have a surgery to fix mental health issues.

 

[Svechhammer]

Wow, such crazy advancements in medicine that they now have a surgery to fix mental health issues.

Lobotomies are surgeries, too