Value of: Framework of a Auston Matthews trade?

[Canucks LB]

Considering he’s going to be able to block any trades soon, If they plan to trade him, It’s now or never.

Of course they can go the Nylander or Marner Route, But it all depends if AM Signs or not.

I’m just curious about the framework of a Matthews trade might be?

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[Frankie Blueberries]

To Arizona:
-Matthews

To Toronto:
-6th overall 2023 (will get a great player like Smith or Michkov)
-Guenther
-Geekie

OR

-Cooley
-6th overall

OR
-Keller
-Cooley/6th overall


I don’t think I’d give up more than that if I’m Arizona, but maybe a small add like a 2nd/B Prospect/decent roster player.

 

[General Fanager]

I dont think The Habs should or would do this but from The Habs I would expect the deal to look like this....

Habs 1st
Slaf
Guhle

Or

Caufield
Guhle
Fla 1st.


I dont know. maybe im not even close. Its so rare a player the level of Matthews gets traded so knowing the value is hard.....

 

[ck26]

To Arizona:
-Matthews

To Toronto:
-6th overall 2023 (will get a great player like Smith or Michkov)
-Guenther
-Geekie

OR

-Cooley
-6th overall

OR
-Keller
-Cooley/6th overall


I don’t think I’d give up more than that if I’m Arizona, but maybe a small add like a 2nd/B Prospect/decent roster player.

ARZ wouldn't give up anything close to that. To rent Matthews for one year before he hits UFA?

Every part of that post is ****ing awful.

Its only redeeming quality is that the names are all spelled correctly.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

ARZ wouldn't give up anything close to that. To rent Matthews for one year before he hits UFA?

Every part of that post is ****ing awful.

Its only redeeming quality is that the names are all spelled correctly.

No your assumptions are awful. Any team trading for Matthews will ask to speak with his agent before handing over assets. Try to deal in reality not your own head.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

Fans won't like it but something like

LA: Matthews
Toronto: Byfield and Kempe
Third team: Petersen and picks from both sides

Matthews takes Kopitar's money next year and LA are set with him and Danualt for their entire window.

 

[General Fanager]

ARZ wouldn't give up anything close to that. To rent Matthews for one year before he hits UFA?

Every part of that post is ****ing awful.

Its only redeeming quality is that the names are all spelled correctly.

I thought it went without saying that any deal this big comes with an extension.....

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Fans won't like it but something like

LA: Matthews
Toronto: Byfield and Kempe
Third team: Petersen and picks from both sides

Matthews takes Kopitar's money next year and LA are set with him and Danualt for their entire window.

Byfield has almost no value until he proves he can play at the NHL level and put up some atleast average numbers. Take him out and add a piece that actually has some value.

 

[EK392000]

Fans won't like it but something like

LA: Matthews
Toronto: Byfield and Kempe
Third team: Petersen and picks from both sides

Matthews takes Kopitar's money next year and LA are set with him and Danualt for their entire window.

If LA is getting an extended Matthews, you’d owe Toronto a lot more than Byfield and Kempe.

 

[Fatass]

No extension in place and Matthews comes as a one year rental. Do he’d have to go to a team that believes they are close enough to winning the Cup to take him on. That means it’s a team very close to the cap so contracts would need to go back along with picks and prospects. Trading Matthews, which might be the only move the Leafs have, might return similar to Matt Tkatchuk. Older guys to balance contracts.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

If LA is getting an extended Matthews, you’d owe Toronto a lot more than Byfield and Kempe.

It is only a framework to be fair. I'm not an LA fan, just think that's the sort of thing that could happen. Leafs get a guy who can score back, plus young C who needs a change plus cap space. The Leafs are likely wanting to send him west (and he'll likely extend with Cali teams) but the west doesn't have many teams who can a) afford his cap, b) have the assets and c) would be willing to part with said assets

 

[Qwijibo]

I dont think The Habs should or would do this but from The Habs I would expect the deal to look like this....

Habs 1st
Slaf
Guhle

Or

Caufield
Guhle
Fla 1st.


I dont know. maybe im not even close. Its so rare a player the level of Matthews gets traded so knowing the value is hard.....

For a pending UFA? No

 

[WTFMAN99]

A place that seems like a good landing spot is Anaheim.

They have Zegras, Terry, Mintukov, Drysdale etc...I think Matthws would re-sign there but obviously Anaheim would need to know ahead.

Zegras-Matthews-Terry would be a fun line to watch.

Something with Henrique and 2nd overall for Matthews is a good starting point.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

To all those posters saying Matthews is basically a UFA, when was the last time a player of Matthews caliber and skill was traded without working out an extension with the team trading for him ? Deal in reality not your fan fiction.

 

[The Blunder Years]

LA makes way too much sense for AM34.

If it’s a sign and trade and Matthews has an extension in the ballpark of $12x7 basis could be as follows:

Toronto Re-Tool package:
Byfield
2024 1st
2025 1st
Grans
Arvidsson (to make money work, trade piece at deadline)
Turcotte (reclamation project with high upside)

Toronto still trying to win package:
Byfield
Kempe
2024 1st
Durzi

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

LA makes way too much sense for AM34.

If it’s a sign and trade and Matthews has an extension in the ballpark of $12x7 basis could be as follows:

Toronto Re-Tool package:
Byfield
2024 1st
2025 1st
Grans
Arvidsson (to make money work, trade piece at deadline)
Turcotte (reclamation project with high upside)

Toronto still trying to win package:
Byfield
Kempe
2024 1st
Durzi

Both offers are basically take what we're ok to give up for your superstar 1c. The only name with any real high end value mentioned is Kempe. The offers are crap for an extended Matthews.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

A place that seems like a good landing spot is Anaheim.

They have Zegras, Terry, Mintukov, Drysdale etc...I think Matthws would re-sign there but obviously Anaheim would need to know ahead.

Zegras-Matthews-Terry would be a fun line to watch.

Something with Henrique and 2nd overall for Matthews is a good starting point.

Why would Anaheim sabotage and massively accelerate their rebuild instead of just selecting their cost-controlled franchise center at #2?

 

[Guffman]

Considering he’s going to be able to block any trades soon, If they plan to trade him, It’s now or never.

If you trade him before July 1, yes… you can trade him to any team but his enhanced value would be if he extended. He could effectively block a trade by saying he won’t extend on or after July 1 and then you’re just dealing with rental compensation.

Once his NTC kicks in, he can block any trade but he could waive it if he wants to go to an acquiring team and they come up with a good contract extension. I don’t see why he would block any trade just to stay in Toronto for a last season and deal with all the media asking about contract status.

Whether he gets traded before July 1 or not, I don’t think it really matter because you probably want Matthews co-operation either way by extending with the new team.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

If you trade him before July 1, yes… you can trade him to any team but his enhanced value would be if he extended. He could effectively block a trade by saying he won’t extend on or after July 1.

Once his NTC kicks in, he can block any trade but he could waive it if he wants to go to an acquiring team and they come up with a good contract extension. I don’t see why he would block any trade just to stay in Toronto for a last season and deal with all the media asking about contract status.

Whether he gets traded before July 1 or not, I don’t think it really matter because you probably want Matthews co-operation either way by extending with the new team.

Because he'd get more money as a FA, likely even from the teams he'd potentially waive for. Going to FA would easily add another million a year to his contract.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Because he'd get more money as a FA, likely even from the teams he'd potentially waive for. Going to FA would easily add another million a year to his contract.

If Matthews doesn't sign within the next 2 to 3 weeks he will be traded to one of 3 to 5 teams he's willing to extend with. The return will be big depending on who is involved and how bad those handful of teams want him.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

To Arizona:
-Matthews

To Toronto:
-6th overall 2023 (will get a great player like Smith or Michkov)
-Guenther
-Geekie

OR

-Cooley
-6th overall

OR
-Keller
-Cooley/6th overall


I don’t think I’d give up more than that if I’m Arizona, but maybe a small add like a 2nd/B Prospect/decent roster player.

Matthews has NMC clause on July 1. Arizona doesn't have to give up that much if he gets to July 1. Matthews will not want to see his new team raided. Lot of potential for Leafs to get exposed on this.

 

[raymond23]

ARZ wouldn't give up anything close to that. To rent Matthews for one year before he hits UFA?

Every part of that post is ****ing awful.

Its only redeeming quality is that the names are all spelled correctly.

Chill bro

 

[Grinner]

To all those posters saying Matthews is basically a UFA, when was the last time a player of Matthews caliber and skill was traded without working out an extension with the team trading for him ? Deal in reality not your fan fiction.

Yes let's deal in reality
We have trade proposals by people who have no power to make them. All to often for assets their team doesn't possess. For instant an non existent extension
Fan fiction is what drives this forum

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Yeah none of these get it done.

 

[Guffman]

Because he'd get more money as a FA, likely even from the teams he'd potentially waive for. Going to FA would easily add another million a year to his contract.

It would be pretty crazy if Matthews decided to not extend with anyone until July 1, 2024. What a media frenzy it would be if he’s not extended by training camp.