World Cup: Four Nations Tournament-Team Canada

[robbieberns]

As a Canadian guy raised in Carolina and is a big Hurricanes fan, so glad and proud to see Jarvis make it.

He’s the perfect 13th forward plug and play guy who would fit on genuinely any line combo. Incredible two way game and has such a high IQ, just as good on the PK and the PP. Brings full effort every shift and is a really big personality guy.

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

I'd put him on there without a doubt. He's on the worst team in the league and is the 2nd youngest player in the league. He'd score a billion goals with McDavid feeding him the puck. His shot is ridiculously good.

Personally, I'd have him over Marner. I just hate how Marner plays in big games.

In a predictive situation, anyone can be wrong about anything. Marner could be great and Bedard might suck. Absolutely true.

But Marner has consistently sucked in big moments. Every year it's the same story with him. The bigger the game the worse he plays. I personally would not have him on the roster regardless.

On the flipside, for all the crap Bedard has gotten, he's on the absolute worst team in the league. He's got no assistance and is still putting up decent numbers. His shot is as good as anyone's in the league and I see no reason to believe that he wouldn't kill it with McDavid. I'd take him over Marner all day long.

The best predictor of future performance is past success. Bedard has put up generational numbers in the Juniors. I think with a great team he'd produce here again. Marner on the other hand consistently chokes in big games. I wouldn't want to rely on him for anything.

Bedard played for Canada at the World Champs and was getting benched for brutal giveaways and horribly undisciplined penalties. It's his own fault he isn't on this roster. He needs to mature his game no matter how good he might be offensively.

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Canada really seems to be bringing a ton of two-way monsters to make up for the D/G not being as good as it was in the past. Jarvis, Cirelli, Bennett, Stone, etc are all beasts and won't be getting scored on much.

As a Leaf fan I'm very interested to see where Marner fits. I don't actually think he makes much sense on McDavid's wing as both players excel as the guy with the puck.

 

[jigglysquishy]

Not any shockers on the team. Very curious to see the group actually get on the ice.

I've been denied McDavid Crosby on the powerplay too long.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

What makes you think the Amerks' staff won't make similarly questionable decisions?

I actually think this is a very good, if "safe" Canadian team. If Guerin builds the U.S. team similarly I won't be too upset.

 

[Zybalto]

Not any shockers on the team. Very curious to see the group actually get on the ice.

I've been denied McDavid Crosby on the powerplay too long.

Who are your PP1 and PP2 groups?

 

[jigglysquishy]

Who are your PP1 and PP2 groups?

PP1 will likely be McDavid- Mackinnon- Makar- Crosby- Reinhart

PP2 Marner-Point-Morrissey. Not sure who they'll take as the last two guys.

They will ride the first PP hard.

 

[PanniniClaus]

Sam Montembeault over Logan Thompson is crazy.

I had Montembeault here.

I listened to 32 thoughts. Bukauskas and Amber had 6 different goaltenders.. none the same. Elliott had a combo. None of them had Monty and I thought they were wrong.

He and Binnington have answered multiple calls and played well when they got the call. The tire fire Canadians don't help matters.

Thompson over Hill would not have bothered me one bit.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I’m pretty curious about the PP units actually. I don’t know if there’s enough puck to go around for a stacked top unit of Makar-McDavid-MacKinnon-Crosby-Reinhart/Point, but it could be absolutely lethal.

McDavid plays a very dynamic game on the PP, probably spends equal amounts of time on the left and right sides. Crosby should be watching some Draisaitl footage, they can work magic together. And MacKinnon gives McDavid a right-handed one-timer option, something McDavid has never really had before. The only thing that worries me here is that the Avs have a much more static PP than the Oilers do, so they’ll have to get lots of reps in to get used to each other’s movement.

And of course, can’t imagine a better PPQB than Makar and a better net front/bumper finisher than Reinhart/Point to complete the unit. If they click, the PP could be what wins them the tournament. But I do think it’ll take the players some adjusting and they need to get a ton of reps in.

 

[DearDiary]

I’m pretty curious about the PP units actually. I don’t know if there’s enough puck to go around for a stacked top unit of Makar-McDavid-MacKinnon-Crosby-Reinhart/Point, but it could be absolutely lethal.

McDavid plays a very dynamic game on the PP, probably spends equal amounts of time on the left and right sides. Crosby should be watching some Draisaitl footage, they can work magic together. And MacKinnon gives McDavid a right-handed one-timer option, something McDavid has never really had before. The only thing that worries me here is that the Avs have a much more static PP than the Oilers do, so they’ll have to get lots of reps in to get used to each other’s movement.

And of course, can’t imagine a better PPQB than Makar and a better net front/bumper finisher than Reinhart/Point to complete the unit. If they click, the PP could be what wins them the tournament. But I do think it’ll take the players some adjusting and they need to get a ton of reps in.

During the offseason during Vail camp, PP unit that was practised was

MacKinnon-Crosby-Marner/Bennett
McDavid-D rotating in

ES pairings

MacKinnon-Crosby-Marner
McDavid-Crosby
MacKinnon-M.Tkachuk (American)


Usually Marchand would play on MacKinnons line during camp, but he was injured this season. McDavid also wasn't at camp for long since he was recovering from an injury.

 

[Nucks2001]

As a Canadian guy raised in Carolina and is a big Hurricanes fan, so glad and proud to see Jarvis make it.

He’s the perfect 13th forward plug and play guy who would fit on genuinely any line combo. Incredible two way game and has such a high IQ, just as good on the PK and the PP. Brings full effort every shift and is a really big personality guy.

Seth Jarvis is surprisingly the best decision that Hockey Canada made IMO. Having BOTH Cirelli and Bennett might be a mistake. I think they could use some juice in the bottom 6. Just because you don’t forecheck, as often or viciously SHOULD NOT disqualify you as being fit for a defensive role. Plenty of great defensive players that can also create offensively

 

[Nucks2001]

I’m pretty curious about the PP units actually. I don’t know if there’s enough puck to go around for a stacked top unit of Makar-McDavid-MacKinnon-Crosby-Reinhart/Point, but it could be absolutely lethal.

McDavid plays a very dynamic game on the PP, probably spends equal amounts of time on the left and right sides. Crosby should be watching some Draisaitl footage, they can work magic together. And MacKinnon gives McDavid a right-handed one-timer option, something McDavid has never really had before. The only thing that worries me here is that the Avs have a much more static PP than the Oilers do, so they’ll have to get lots of reps in to get used to each other’s movement.

And of course, can’t imagine a better PPQB than Makar and a better net front/bumper finisher than Reinhart/Point to complete the unit. If they click, the PP could be what wins them the tournament. But I do think it’ll take the players some adjusting and they need to get a ton of reps in.

With slow, old grinches and penalty-taking agitators like Bennett and Marchand, I would be worried about our penalty kill than PP

 

[jj cale]

Seth Jarvis is surprisingly the best decision that Hockey Canada made IMO. Having BOTH Cirelli and Bennett might be a mistake. I think they could use some juice in the bottom 6. Just because you don’t forecheck, as often or viciously SHOULD NOT disqualify you as being fit for a defensive role. Plenty of great defensive players that can also create offensively

They are really going to have to get on and try to wear down guys like 'Hughes, etc, they really have to make their life miserable. They gave up some pop for tenacity and this time around and it might be the way to go.

With slow, old grinches and penalty-taking agitators like Bennett and Marchand,I would be worried about our penalty kill than PP

That has to be the best in the tournament with our goalies.

 

[Nucks2001]

PP1 will likely be McDavid- Mackinnon- Makar- Crosby- Reinhart

PP2 Marner-Point-Morrissey. Not sure who they'll take as the last two guys.

They will ride the first PP hard.

Exactly the reason why taking a Verhaege, Barzal or Bedard might have been good for PP2. But you’re right, they’ll be using PP1 mostly and it’s not like Marchand, Stone, Hagel, Konecny, or Jarvis are foreign to a PP either. They could always role a Shea Theodore on the 2nd PP too.

 

[Mathieukferland]

If the rumoured roster is true, I think they picked a good team. Needed that after the debacle that was the world junior team. It’s a good thing that Cirelli, Bennett and Hagel merited their selection by their play this year, it makes their selection a lot easier.

With the rumoured players being picked, here would be my lineup:


Marchand-MacKinnon-Konecny
Crosby-McDavid-Reinhart
Hagel-Cirelli-Stone
Bennett-Point-Marner
Jarvis

Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Morrisey-Parayko
Sanheim


Binnington
Hill
Montembault



This is an extremely versatile team that can play many different ways. I’m glad thr galaxy brain inclusions of Nurse, Wilson and Lowry were avoided. Goaltending is a question mark, but this team has the best outskaters in the tournament, most of whom, with the exception of Marner, come to play when the lights get bright

 

[ahmon]

like the rumoured team a lot. Good balance of skill, grit and proven chemistry.

marchand crosby from previous tournaments, Hagel -Point, Toews- Makar, Theodore Pietro.

If I had to nitpick probably would have preferred another C instead of Jarvis.

And the top 6 D is exactly who I thought they should pick. Thought they would have went Power as the extra - someone you think will be counted on in future tournaments.

 

[Habssince89]

Nick Suzuki is exactly the player you want in a tournament setting. Idiotic to exclude him

 

[HighLifeManIsHigh]

Nick Suzuki is exactly the player you want in a tournament setting. Idiotic to exclude him

He snubs the World Championships every year. Hockey Canada doesn’t like that

 

[Habssince89]

He snubs the World Championships every year. Hockey Canada doesn’t like that

Their loss

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Nick Suzuki is exactly the player you want in a tournament setting. Idiotic to exclude him

He may be deserved, but you can’t say he was clearly ahead of the other forwards who didn’t make it. In fact, if there’s one center that should’ve made it, I’d say it’s Robert Thomas. And a bunch more in Suzuki’s tier, guys like Bedard, Tavares, Barzal, etc.

On another note, if Adin Hill plays anything like he did today, Canada is winning this lol.

 

[Mathieukferland]

Nick Suzuki is exactly the player you want in a tournament setting. Idiotic to exclude him

He’s not been good enough this year. Him, Thomas, and Cirelli were likely competing for the same spot, and Cirelli has looked a lot stronger 5v5 and penalty kills well. I know it angers a lot of the media heads back home in QC, but he has been too casual in his own zone and doesn’t deserve to be here

 

[Habssince89]

He’s not been good enough this year. Him, Thomas, and Cirelli were likely competing for the same spot, and Cirelli has looked a lot stronger 5v5 and penalty kills well. I know it angers a lot of the media heads back home in QC, but he has been too casual in his own zone and doesn’t deserve to be here

nope

 

[BleedBlue14]

Surprised with Army being as involved in Hockey Canada as he is Thomas was excluded. I wonder if it has anything to do with the injury he had earlier in the year and not knowing a time frame.

He has a skill set to be able to play a PK role as he’s been doing it for the Blues for a while. Could possibly have just wanted a bit more physicality in the lineup.

 

[Nucks2001]

Surprised with Army being as involved in Hockey Canada as he is Thomas was excluded. I wonder if it has anything to do with the injury he had earlier in the year and not knowing a time frame.

He has a skill set to be able to play a PK role as he’s been doing it for the Blues for a while. Could possibly have just wanted a bit more physicality in the lineup.

Would have preferred a Robert Thomas over a Same Bennett. More versatile

 

[Soundwave]

I want to see McDavid and Crosby on the same line.

 

[centipede2233]

Canada will finish 4th.

This is what I think to. I’m Canadian but I’ve seen 1996, 1998 and 2006, and Canada finished out of top 3 in the latter 2. It happens and it typically happens when it’s a changing of the guard where hall of farmers are past their prime/retired and the Calvary are just entering the nhl.