Four Nations tournament rules

[JimmyH]

I understand that Russian players are banned from competition due to NHL's deference to IIHF stance on current events?

To me it is a disappointment because I enjoy watching many guys who would have been on the Russian team and I think they would be quite good if they were allowed to play. Secondly, I am disappointed because this decision has been characterized by both IIHF and NHL as a means of leveraging international political outcomes (ha). This is as unrealistic as it is annoying to me since I do not enjoy thinking about governmental affairs when I watch hockey.

If NHL/IIHF could alter this decision in time for the tournament I think it would make lots of fans very happy, myself included.

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[Rec T]

Well, this won't last long

It's also FAR too late to add another team to the tourney...

 

[OilersFanatics505]

Also the IIHF isn’t involved in this tournament correct?

 

[MNRube]

Russia should be in. Keep politics out of sport, IMO.

This tournament is a bit of a farce but I’m still super excited to watch. I’ve been starved for any sort of best on best and this is closest thing we got, so I’m just going to enjoy it

 

[JimmyH]

Also the IIHF isn’t involved in this tournament correct?

They introduced the notion of excluding team Russia and NHL adopted the stance

 

[JimmyH]

Well, this won't last long

It's also FAR too late to add another team to the tourney...

I know, but again, I don't particularly enjoy the mixing of hockey and politics. My view is that the league's job ends at the organization of pro hockey competition and here they are going in the opposite direction by precluding many top players. I can understand why, but I really disagree with it and wish it could be changed.

 

[Faterson]

OMG, the cluelessness around here. You really don't understand Sweden and Finland (and Czechia, etc., etc.) would then not participate, and rightfully so? Also, don't confuse "politics" with war. Next time a bomb lands on your house, killing your family members, would you appreciate if I told you, "Well, that's just politics, you know – let's focus on hockey!"

 

[MNRube]

OMG, the cluelessness around here. You really don't understand Sweden and Finland (and Czechia, etc., etc.) would then not participate, and rightfully so? Also, don't confuse "politics" with war. Next time a bomb lands on your house, killing your family members, would you appreciate if I told you, "Well, that's just politics, you know – let's focus on hockey!"

Always funny when the Europeans take the moral high ground about war. If bombs ever do land on my house, history says it will be because of a conflict whose origins can be traced back to Europe.

 

[jbeck5]

I know, but again, I don't particularly enjoy the mixing of hockey and politics. My view is that the league's job ends at the organization of pro hockey competition and here they are going in the opposite direction by precluding many top players. I can understand why, but I really disagree with it and wish it could be changed.

They are trying to put pressure on Russia in non violent ways.

This means social pressure. Political pressure. Financial pressure. Etc.

This is part of it.

Excluding Russia is a lot safer practice than putting violent pressure on Russia. We drop bombs on Russia and they retaliate, the whole world loses.

I would keep them out even when they do stop trying to invade Ukraine as punishment. They have to hate the fact they invaded Ukraine. Hate is so much that they never do it again.

 

[PanniniClaus]

I understand that Russian players are banned from competition due to NHL's deference to IIHF stance on current events?

To me it is a disappointment because I enjoy watching many guys who would have been on the Russian team and I think they would be quite good if they were allowed to play. Secondly, I am disappointed because this decision has been characterized by both IIHF and NHL as a means of leveraging international political outcomes (ha). This is as unrealistic as it is annoying to me since I do not enjoy thinking about governmental affairs when I watch hockey.

If NHL/IIHF could alter this decision in time for the tournament I think it would make lots of fans very happy, myself included.

Yeah breaking news... Russia has been added to the tournament that starts tomorrow. Follow this space for more details.

 

[westc2]

OMG, the cluelessness around here. You really don't understand Sweden and Finland (and Czechia, etc., etc.) would then not participate, and rightfully so? Also, don't confuse "politics" with war. Next time a bomb lands on your house, killing your family members, would you appreciate if I told you, "Well, that's just politics, you know – let's focus on hockey!"

Ok fine...call them something other than "Russia" then..the NHL already had a "Team Europe" in their last tournament.

 

[D Wakaluk]

Russia can rot in hell

All who symp then can join aswell

It really is that simple

Lock it up.

 

[Coffey]

Russia can rot in hell

All who symp then can join aswell

It really is that simple

Lock it up.

Username checks out.

 

[JoVel]

Always funny when the Europeans take the moral high ground about war. If bombs ever do land on my house, history says it will be because of a conflict whose origins can be traced back to Europe.

I'm not an expert but I think Sweden and Finland are not the same place as Germany and England for example.

 

[D Wakaluk]

Username checks out.

Have a nice trip in Russia. They do accept new recruits so go for it

 

[Coffey]

Have a nice trip in Russia. They do accept new recruits so go for it

lol I'm polish, I'm agreeing with you.
My comment was because Wakaluk is a Ukrainian (probably).

 

[SNES]

Your hockey viewing is bothered while Ukrainians are struggling to survive…f off

 

[D Wakaluk]

lol I'm polish, I'm agreeing with you.
My comment was because Wakaluk is a Ukrainian (probably).

Sorry man, I got you mixed up with someone else

The ruski and their lovers are usually swiftly on my back. As are the mods. But genocide is just politics. This is a sick place

 

[Garl]

I understand that Russian players are banned from competition due to NHL's deference to IIHF stance on current events?

To me it is a disappointment because I enjoy watching many guys who would have been on the Russian team and I think they would be quite good if they were allowed to play. Secondly, I am disappointed because this decision has been characterized by both IIHF and NHL as a means of leveraging international political outcomes (ha). This is as unrealistic as it is annoying to me since I do not enjoy thinking about governmental affairs when I watch hockey.

If NHL/IIHF could alter this decision in time for the tournament I think it would make lots of fans very happy, myself included.

Interesting. Where is the border? What should some nation do so that you would think that it is too much?

 

[Garl]

Always funny when the Europeans take the moral high ground about war. If bombs ever do land on my house, history says it will be because of a conflict whose origins can be traced back to Europe.

Evil slovaks and czechs instigating this horrible wars and endangering americans! They instigated wars in Vietnam and Iraq and this one aswell probably!

 

[kingsholygrail]

Your hockey viewing is bothered while Ukrainians are struggling to survive…f off

Why are Russians allowed to play in the NHL?

 

[Garl]

Why are Russians allowed to play in the NHL?

Why they should not be?

 

[Coffey]

Why are Russians allowed to play in the NHL?

Because they aren't all on one team representing Russia.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Because they aren't all on one team representing Russia.

So as long as they don't congregate it's okay?

 

[Marioesque]

Why are Russians allowed to play in the NHL?

They are individuals working for a business.

Team Russia represents the country.