Series Talk: Four Nations Face-Off Tournament

[dahrougem2]

Thats assuming they win Finland in their last game and oh boy if I learned anything in my years watching hockey anything is possible in these kind of tournaments, maybe not propable but possible.

Finland didnt look bad against Sweden but then again there is always little more in play when they meet.

To me, the Finns have a better roster than Sweden. They have more game breakers and they can clog it up with their forwards. It will not be easy, especially since Finland can play this knowing if they win they can get a revenge game against USA.

 

[sethro109]

Any of these dudes on your list?

Love that Mama Fratelli (Goonies) made it.

Bolo Yeung was such an underrated actor. Every time he was on the screen in Bloodsport, he took over the scene.

 

[Gumballhead]

Sure, I knew the protag would win in the end, but it was always the dumb bullies and silly sidekick that made those movies watchable for me.

Oh for sure they are that, but I never considered taking their side. Then again, Binnington.

Any of these dudes on your list?

Love that Mama Fratelli (Goonies) made it.

I spy the love child of Duncan Siemens and Tyler Arnason, bottom second from left.

 

[UncleRisto]

Oh no, now I have to hear about this show fighting on podcasts like it was great.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

Been playing, coaching and watching this sport for more than 60 years and remember when the Armerican team wasn't worth Canada's attention. They would mock us telling us to our face that the Russians were their real rivals and only they were worthy of Canada's respect. Team USA? Second rate or worse.

Tonight, USA Hockey had the better goalie, a much better defense, played a better team game and was physically superior. Canada's stars were a throw back to how to play individual hockey. But Crosby, MacKinnon and McDavid were not the reincarnation of Gretzky, Lemieux and Hawerchuk.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Been playing, coaching and watching this sport for more than 60 years and remember when the Armerican team wasn't worth Canada's attention. They would mock us telling us to our face that the Russians were their real rivals and only they were worthy of Canada's respect. Team USA? Second rate or worse.

Tonight, USA Hockey had the better goalie, a much better defense, played a better team game and was physically superior. Canada's stars were a throw back to how to play individual hockey. But Crosby, MacKinnon and McDavid were not the reincarnation of Gretzky, Lemieux and Hawerchuk.

If Binnington doesn’t allow the 1st goal which was a stupid soft goal, the game would go to OT and I’d like Canadas chances to win. Canada needs a goalie. It’s really hard to believe that the hockey giant nation like Canada doesn’t have good goalies. Why can’t Canada develop good goalies anymore that’s the question

 

[dahrougem2]

If Binnington doesn’t allow the 1st goal which was a stupid soft goal, the game would go to OT and I’d like Canadas chances to win. Canada needs a goalie. It’s really hard to believe that the hockey giant nation like Canada doesn’t have good goalies. Why can’t Canada develop good goalies anymore that’s the question

Gotta wonder if they now throw Adin Hill in for a do-or-die game.

Montembault won't touch the ice this tourney lol.

 

[Alienblood]

Blues GM and Bolts coach pushing their own players into the lineup hurt Team Canada tremendously.

They sure couldn't afford to lose Makar either.

No Cooper or Armstrong for the Olympics would be a great thing.

 

[dahrougem2]

No Cooper or Armstrong for the Olympics would be a great thing.

A lot of nepotism-style decisions for this roster.

Cooper likely demanding both Hagel and Cirelli.

Armstrong pushing for Parayko and Binnington.

Bruce Cassidy reportedly telling management not to select Logan Thompson.

Don Sweeney making sure Brad Marchand is on the team despite the regression clearly in full swing.

Even with the replacement, Jim Nill/Pete DeBoer flexing muscles and ensuring it's Thomas Harley over a guy like Darnell Nurse who - hilariously bad contract aside - has genuinely played like a top pair defender this season.

IMO a team of:

Crosby - MacKinnon - Marner
Suzuki - McDavid - Stone
Kadri - Scheifele - Point
Batherson - Johnston - Wilson
Reinhart

Toews - Makar
Morrissey - Reilly
Nurse - Dobson

Thompson
Blackwood

Would have been a lot more skilled and a lot faster while not losing grit because you would have guys like Wilson, Kadri, Batherson, and Nurse in your lineup.

 

[Alienblood]

If Binnington doesn’t allow the 1st goal which was a stupid soft goal, the game would go to OT and I’d like Canadas chances to win. Canada needs a goalie. It’s really hard to believe that the hockey giant nation like Canada doesn’t have good goalies. Why can’t Canada develop good goalies anymore that’s the question

Their best goalies aren't there

 

[Puckstop40]

McDavid does not like physicality. He seemed pissy anytime he got touched.

 

[Grigowski]

So Canada-USA was "The" game to watch out... As predicted....

Will also be the final..... Must Watch again after this one.... 3 fights only 10 seconds into the game....

The fans and media loved it.

The coaches, GM and owners of the teams not so.....

 

[Alienblood]

So Canada-USA was "The" game to watch out... As predicted....

Will also be the final..... Must Watch again after this one.... 3 fights only 10 seconds into the game....

The fans and media loved it.

The coaches, GM and owners of the teams not so.....

I won't watch but a buddy told.me it was pretty poor hockey

 

[Grigowski]

I won't watch but a buddy told.me it was pretty poor hockey

Honestly, i only watched this game and will watch the final, if it is USA-Canada... Could be an all out war after this one.....

I just hope that none of our players comes back injured.

 

[Hesher]

So this basically means that USA vs Sweden will probably be a dead rubber.

 

[RECKLESS]

Makar can rest tomorrow too.

And Finland upset Canada BIG time.

 

[Miri]

Makar can rest tomorrow too.

And Finland upset Canada BIG time.

Why didnt he play anyway? I dont care if he wont play for Canada that much, but if he is injured beyond the tournament and not available to Avs, well shiiit…

 

[Vaslof]

Why didnt he play anyway? I dont care if he wont play for Canada that much, but if he is injured beyond the tournament and not available to Avs, well shiiit…

Just feeling ill from what I read.

 

[RECKLESS]

Yeah. Illness. Better for our Avs he rests all the way. That USA-CAN game was full blown warfare.

 

[ABasin]

Oh yeah, I have long thought Canada will fall behind other countries soon. Not only do they not have a legit skill development program the way USA/Finland/Czechia seem to, they make playing hockey insanely difficult financially. I'll bet there are more than a few kids with all-world talent as young kids who cannot afford to keep playing and switch to basketball or soccer.

When I saw final rosters, USA immediately jumped out at me as the best. I didn't even think Canada had THAT much of a star power edge because USA has some elite guys of their own. The only guy who stuck out like a sore thumb was Brock Nelson instead of Clayton Keller. Otherwise, they built a fast, skilled team and they work hard.

Clearly, USA management learned their lesson from the 2014 and 2016 disasters when they looked incredibly old and slow. It actually feels like Canada fell into that trap of picking "winners" and guys with reputations rather than legitimately better players.

I will harp on it until proven wrong: Anthony Cirelli has no business on this team and honestly, neither does Brandon Hagel.

Neither does Marchand. Suzuki certainly would look better than any of those guys, heck probably Scheifele too.

Weegar in there for Parayko is another one they maybe could have done.

 

[CharlesPuck]

So this basically means that USA vs Sweden will probably be a dead rubber.

Sweden needs CAN-FIN to go to OT to have a chance. They lose tiebreakers to both of them.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Holy hell the takes on this site are f***ing awful. Unbelievable what occurs when tournaments like this happen and it becomes clear no one actually consistently watches hockey games.

 

[niwotsblessing]

That's Torts lol

I like the tranquilized version of him I saw the other night. The Thorazine does him wonders.

 

[Ceremony]

Enjoyed that. International games with NHLers are great actually. There are several players on that Canadian team who shouldn't be there.

 

[Bender]

Gotta wonder if they now throw Adin Hill in for a do-or-die game.

Montembault won't touch the ice this tourney lol.

Hill should have been the starter to begin with.

Binner has let in 3 if not 4 soft goals.

Morons like Kelly hrudey who suggest that Binner 'made up for it by making great saves in OT' are too stupid to understand that it wouldn't have gotten to OT if he had made the routine save.

He's been crap and other teams like Finland and Sweden didn't hesitate to make switches when they felt their goalies weren't at the top of their game.

Putting Hill in VS Finland is a no-brainer. Can't have your goalie giving up freebies every game in a tournament like this.