Player Discussion Former Habs & Picks watch: Gone but not forgotten (No Current NHLers) II
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Mrb1p
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You predicted he'd get a career changing back injury ? Damn.
He had a back injury his last year here and had already lost another step speedwise and could not recover from the occasional failed rush.
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Many things, some worked out, some did not. I thought Michael McCarron would be an impact player for us!
MasterD
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That's not predicting, it's taking wild guesses.
MasterMatt25
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Idk if it was wild. We took him in the 1st round. And Habs fans hype up our guys a lot
He had 51 points in 68 games in his last year and was the leading D in +/-.
He was a Norris finalist in his 2nd year in Nashville.
The best excuse founded by his pompom fans. He was looking a lot better when he's on pksubban.com , no ?
Would you say " poor Drouin, he get a career changing wrist injury "?
Quote me all the stats you want, I watched every single game and I was concerned the speed was soon going to be an actual liability, and I said so, while at the same time fighting the Subban-as cancer talk, which was totally wrong.
Question though: why are Subban's 51 pts in a lost season more meaningful than Galchenyuk's 30 goals in that same season?
People use their eyes, and Galchenyuk was left off the NA 23 and under team for the World Cup of Hockey that summer.
Strangely, Subban was left off the over-23 Canada team too. Weber was an alternate captain.
I don't want to debate this any further, as I find the debate is driven by Subban lovers versus Subban haters, and I don't identify with the haters side.
If someone wants the last word so they can 'win' the internet, so be it.
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40 points in 66 games in his first season with Nashville. Stanley Cup Finals. Conn Smyth Vote.
59 points in 82 games in his second season with Nashville. Had a career year in goals. Led the D in points. A norris finalist in this season as well.
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David Suzuki
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Probably his past pedigree and his future success, no? 51 points as a one off means nothing, 51 points in a career coded with individual success is pretty relevant IMO.
To get on international teams your coach has to go to bat for you. The habs’ old school coaches did not get along with Subban, how could they? He did what they asked, played well, showed enthusiasm, same attitude as Gallagher but with personality and colour. Those last things just didn’t fly.
So much happier with a coach who tries to get everyone to succeed however they can do that.
salbutera
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If he keeps moving east, he will next play in the ECHL for Alaska.
Why would his coaches have to go to bat for him?
Shouldn't one of the top D in the league get selected easily?
Team Canada always pick the best players, which is why we have Brandon Tanev on the team this year.
The guys choosing the team will always check with the coach. Most coaches will recommend their players with just a dash of honesty. Therrien always tried to sell Subban as a problem player that he’d succeeded in partially fixing.
I literally said he would retire and join media by the time his contract ended...this was like year 1 in Nashville.
Just saying lol
LaP
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Because he was at this point a norris winner and a norris nominee both done in winning season.
I don't buy it. Team Canada officials want the best players. If Paul Coffey's coach pulled his hair out due to overly ambitious forays down the ice, they were still taking him.
Lafleurs Guy
Guuuuuuuy!
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He was a perpetual Norris candidate.
What’s your hypothesis? He just forgot how to play hockey?
Lafleurs Guy
Guuuuuuuy!
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Yep. I remember you saying this.
But nobody could’ve predicted those injuries or his play falling off so rapidly. Retiring in his early 30s was tragic. He was a Norris candidate in Nashville and would’ve won the Smythe had the Preds won that year. He was still a monster when we dealt him.
Amazing that he and Price were done so soon.
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They want the best players who fit the team. They ask the coaches if guys will fit. No one knows all the players and no national coach wants surprises once the games start.
Perpetual Norris candidate ? 3 times is perpetual ?
gain too much muscular mass so lost his speed. I also think that he was nearly more interested to promote his me-myself and I PKSubban brand and to be invited in front of cameras, instead of playing hockey.
I could see him makes a re-make of Coach corner à la Don Cherry but without the 1950's kind of comments of that last.
I used to love PK but how much he turned to be a one man show...
