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LionsHeart
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The Giants are still a looooong ways away. The game isn’t over, but this is a reality check.
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When is Robinson due back from injury?
I'd cut Golladay and Sheperd tomorrow. The former for being ass and the latter for costing the Giants a huge gain to offset the late hit.
That return should do it. Two score game.
I'd cut Golladay and Sheperd tomorrow. The former for being ass and the latter for costing the Giants a huge gain to offset the late hit.
That return should do it. Two score game.
Brutananadilewski
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Win or lose, DJ played his ass off today.
And yes, cut Golladay and Shep. Don't wait for tomorrow, do it now!
And yes, cut Golladay and Shep. Don't wait for tomorrow, do it now!
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Bob Richards
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Absolutely depressing to see Shepard get hurt like that.
Wasn't really that bothered by the loss (they're rebuilding, its what it is) but Shep getting hurt to cap it off bums me out.
Wasn't really that bothered by the loss (they're rebuilding, its what it is) but Shep getting hurt to cap it off bums me out.
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As @LionsHeart said, a true reality check game. The Giants are still a looooong way from being anything near an actual contender.
And though he-who-shall-not-be-named is gone, we still live in his shadow. It completely boggles the mind that THIS ROSTER started the season with the second-highest cap of any team in the league. Like, it's soooo bad that it's almost a marvel to behold. The Giants have no WRs, no LBs, 1 CB, no O-line depth, no D-line depth, no TEs, (IMO) no QB, an RB who is likely gone after this season, and most shockingly - NO CAP SPACE. How do you even pull that off???? Honestly, if you TRIED to construct a worse roster what are the odds/luck that you would screw up your way into an actually better team than Gettleman put together?
I respect that playing as a rookie OT is brutal and I think we'll have to give Neal a break the entire season but he was getting abused. KT finally played and did nothing. Did Ojulari even play? Everyone talking about the Giant's pash rush finally healthy and coming back for this game and it was the worst showing our D-line has had all year. Definitely highlights how important Leonard Williams is. Oh, wait, that reminds me, did he-who-shall-not-be-named use a top-20 pick on an interior lineman who actually did play but was a complete non-factor? God the incompetence of that man is mind-numbing.
I continue to put my faith in Schoen/Daboll/Wink, but as was always the case, the Giants clearly have a long way to go. IMO they will need to NAIL this upcoming draft just to have a league-average roster next season - and it seems draft success is at best around a 50/50 proposition even if you're one of the BEST scouting teams. Not to mention they're probably drafting a QB with their first pick next year. Which means NEXT year is probably another "development" season with a rookie QB. And let's hypothesize they trade for Lamar, who is he throwing to? Golladay sucks. Shepherd's career looks likely over due to injuries. Toney can't stay healthy even 50% of the time. Wan'Dale is 5'8". And there won't be any money for a legit #1. Maybe Odell comes back for a discounted contract? Do you PAY Saquon and hope he, Lamar, and a bunch of no-name receivers can carry an offense to a Superbowl?
It's way too early to say but we still don't even know if KT, Ojulari, and Neal will even be the answers at their respective positions. Next season this team may still find itself in need of a #1 QB, RB, MLB, WR, CB, EDGE, RT, TE, OLB.
But at least I'm confident a buffoon is not still in charge of the franchise. I do believe in the future of the Giants but I also believe it's a long time coming and I hope the press and fans don't turn on a front office/coaching staff I believe can get us there just because things have been so bad for so long that they don't give this current regime an honest chance. Despite being so bad for so long, they are quite literally building from less than zero this season.
And though he-who-shall-not-be-named is gone, we still live in his shadow. It completely boggles the mind that THIS ROSTER started the season with the second-highest cap of any team in the league. Like, it's soooo bad that it's almost a marvel to behold. The Giants have no WRs, no LBs, 1 CB, no O-line depth, no D-line depth, no TEs, (IMO) no QB, an RB who is likely gone after this season, and most shockingly - NO CAP SPACE. How do you even pull that off???? Honestly, if you TRIED to construct a worse roster what are the odds/luck that you would screw up your way into an actually better team than Gettleman put together?
I respect that playing as a rookie OT is brutal and I think we'll have to give Neal a break the entire season but he was getting abused. KT finally played and did nothing. Did Ojulari even play? Everyone talking about the Giant's pash rush finally healthy and coming back for this game and it was the worst showing our D-line has had all year. Definitely highlights how important Leonard Williams is. Oh, wait, that reminds me, did he-who-shall-not-be-named use a top-20 pick on an interior lineman who actually did play but was a complete non-factor? God the incompetence of that man is mind-numbing.
I continue to put my faith in Schoen/Daboll/Wink, but as was always the case, the Giants clearly have a long way to go. IMO they will need to NAIL this upcoming draft just to have a league-average roster next season - and it seems draft success is at best around a 50/50 proposition even if you're one of the BEST scouting teams. Not to mention they're probably drafting a QB with their first pick next year. Which means NEXT year is probably another "development" season with a rookie QB. And let's hypothesize they trade for Lamar, who is he throwing to? Golladay sucks. Shepherd's career looks likely over due to injuries. Toney can't stay healthy even 50% of the time. Wan'Dale is 5'8". And there won't be any money for a legit #1. Maybe Odell comes back for a discounted contract? Do you PAY Saquon and hope he, Lamar, and a bunch of no-name receivers can carry an offense to a Superbowl?
It's way too early to say but we still don't even know if KT, Ojulari, and Neal will even be the answers at their respective positions. Next season this team may still find itself in need of a #1 QB, RB, MLB, WR, CB, EDGE, RT, TE, OLB.
But at least I'm confident a buffoon is not still in charge of the franchise. I do believe in the future of the Giants but I also believe it's a long time coming and I hope the press and fans don't turn on a front office/coaching staff I believe can get us there just because things have been so bad for so long that they don't give this current regime an honest chance. Despite being so bad for so long, they are quite literally building from less than zero this season.
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LionsHeart
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The Giants spend more money on their recievers than any other team in the league. One last gift from that War Criminal Dave Gettleman.
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Lotta Dan Jones apologists ..take a walk .
Listening to Dan Jones post game doesn’t sound too sharp doesn’t look too sharp …
But the two best giants last night were I guess Barkley who had one run and Jones who ran around ….
Both tho can walk seasons end …
Who’s coming ? Lamar Jackson ?
There’s a lotta dead weight on this team.
People claim rebuild….
Dallas went 12-5 last year and cleaned house with colon blow ….
Pro bowlers … All pros … vital depth players ….
Dallas poised to go 3-1 .
John Mara remains a bigger asshole than Jerry Jones .
Listening to Dan Jones post game doesn’t sound too sharp doesn’t look too sharp …
But the two best giants last night were I guess Barkley who had one run and Jones who ran around ….
Both tho can walk seasons end …
Who’s coming ? Lamar Jackson ?
There’s a lotta dead weight on this team.
People claim rebuild….
Dallas went 12-5 last year and cleaned house with colon blow ….
Pro bowlers … All pros … vital depth players ….
Dallas poised to go 3-1 .
John Mara remains a bigger asshole than Jerry Jones .
Boris Zubov
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Nobody's a bigger asshole than Jerry Jones, but sadly even GM Jerry is better at evaluating football operations than John Mara is.
LionsHeart
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John Mara is no doubt a terrible owner. My Gettleman jokes aside, he’s the biggest culprit in all of this. He not only hired Gettleman, but kept him when he was clearly not the guy, and then allowed him to throw out incredible stupid contracts in an attempt to save his job that hamstrung the next GM.
I think Daboll and his staff are getting the most out of the roster that they can, but they just don’t have any talent. When you see how the money is dispersed you’re just scratching your head wondering how that could possibly be allowed to happen.
Kocur26
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John Mara is a meddling pos .., Jones has made the nfl billions upon billions …
Jones ended the good OL boys money network of Rooneys Model and Mara …
So while Jones is an asshole because he can’t just be happy like Robert Kraft …
He’s not a behind the scenes rat town crier like John Mara - a true daddy’s boy owner like hal stankbrenner.
Mara did zero to earn the team …
Jones bet his life
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If I were a Bills fan and watched my quarterback, big tough, Josh Allen… hugging tua togloluvia - head on his shoulder… rocking back n forth like a crying 4 year old with a skinned knee … patting his head like a little bitch purse dog …. I’d be thoroughly embarrassed and nauseous by that image …
Roger Staubach Terry Bradshaw Kenny Stabler …being burped after the game ?
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Roger Staubach Terry Bradshaw Kenny Stabler …being burped after the game ?
No
HockeyBasedNYC
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Sheppard carted off after the final play. Non contact leg injury.
He is literally made of glass, but it doesnt matter anymore really. Thats a career for him you would think.
He is literally made of glass, but it doesnt matter anymore really. Thats a career for him you would think.
RangerBlues
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The Jets are the fifth wheel of the NFL. They are not a serious organization and are the equivalent of a NHL team in south Florida.
Wanna make them relevant? Sell the team and move it out of NY.
They could win for the next decade and never sell out a game.
Hunter Gathers
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God damn, I really need to put you on ignore. Posts like this are just absurd, lol.
This is like the low level takes you hear on WFAN. I come here for a higher level of discussion than that.
Ahhhhh. Much better, now.
Dolphins management should be f***ing incinerated.
Tua is never going to be the same after that and he shouldn't have been in to begin with.
Tua is never going to be the same after that and he shouldn't have been in to begin with.
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Once you saw his hands lock up you knew it was bad, but if he cleared protocol last week and the league was good with the investigation, not much you can do if he wanted to play.
Boris Zubov
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Kocur26
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Everything I said is accurate -, get a tissue if your feelings are hurt.
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