OT: Football thread (2024 season)

[NickyFotiu]

This does not sound good for the head coach and play caller.

Still Nabers should also look in the mirror to his key drops this season.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

This does not sound good for the head coach and play caller.

Still Nabers should also look in the mirror to his key drops this season.

I know he's young but he needs to STFU. Also it very well is the Quarterback, they didn't replace Jones with Mahomes.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I'm sure they will say it was nothing tomorrow but Nabers said more pointing in the direction of Dabol. That is almost unheard of for a rookie. Especially a rookie that probably cost the team 2 wins with critical late drive drops.

Review of today’s performance: “Soft as f—.”

His day: “Go out there 1st, 2nd quarter, don’t get the ball, start getting targets at the end. I mean, I can’t do nothing. Start getting the ball when it’s 30-0. What you want me to do?”

Why no looks in the first half? “I don’t know. Talk to Dabs about that. Talk to Dabs.”

On the QB change supposed to provide a spark: “I mean obviously it ain’t the quarterback. Same outcome when we had DJ at quarterback. I mean take a look. It ain’t the quarterback.”

Is it the playcalling? “I don’t know. I don’t know what it is. I know I'm tired of losing.”

 

[LionsHeart]

I don’t think Schoen and Daboll have earned the right to draft and develop their own guy. This team is awful.

It would be one thing if they were making strides, but what do they do well? They’re arguably worse than when they started. At least they had some talent.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don’t think Schoen and Daboll have earned the right to draft and develop their own guy. This team is awful.

It would be one thing if they were making strides, but what do they do well? They’re arguably worse than when they started. At least they had some talent.

I think Schoen is okay but I don't know if the players respect Schoen or Dabol. I could see why the players would look twice at Dabol. Multiple coaches wanted out last off season. Why did they not let Kafka go if they barely use him this season?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Nabers needs to learn not to verbalize every thought that enters his head.

 

[RangerBlues]

anybody just see the block Becton just made to free Barkley.
Only 302 yards of offense.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Nabers needs to learn not to verbalize every thought that enters his head.

He could definitely benefit by following your example in that regard.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Brian Burns is an honest guy.

Hell no,’’ Burns said. “Was it a bummer? Was it awkward? Yeah, because Daniel was a leader, a great guy, great captain, he was a great teammate, but at the end of the day, that ain’t got s–t to do with us tackling.’’

 

[Bob Richards]

And we still have 6 games left lmao.

Yeah Schoen and Daboll aren’t surviving this.

 

[NickyFotiu]

And we still have 6 games left lmao.

Yeah Schoen and Daboll aren’t surviving this.

Schoen has had some bad luck with high picks. Some highly rated guys that disappointed.

I don't think the players/coaches like or respect Dabes.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

He could definitely benefit by following your example in that regard.

Exactly. But all jokes aside. Message board and press are two different things.

 

[Ben Grimm]

'Soft' served: Giants players rip effort after loss

Several Giants players said the team played "soft" in a 30-7 blowout loss at home to the Buccaneers.

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It's total rebuild time for New York Giants after 30-7 Tampa loss | Inside Coverage

The future couldn't be bleaker for the New York Giants right now. On Friday, they cut former starting QB Daniel Jones in a signal that a future rebuild is in order and to add insult to injury, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers earned a convincing 30-7 win over the G-Men on Sunday. Meanwhile, rookie...

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[Bob Richards]

There’s no kiss of death quite like a John Mara vote of confidence lol

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Darnold 4 MVP

 

[NickyFotiu]

If its total rebuild time in NY then I would ask what has the last 3 years been? I think there are only 2 players (Dex and Slayton) on the Giants roster that Joe and Dabol did not bring in to the team. This team is their guys.

By the way I think the Jets and the Giants have way more talent than their record shows. So if your record is worse than your talent there are other issues.

 

[I Eat Crow]

I don't know guys. I think this year's Giants team is worse than anything that Shurmur or Joe Judge oversaw.

This team stinks with a capital S.

I'm sure they will say it was nothing tomorrow but Nabers said more pointing in the direction of Dabol. That is almost unheard of for a rookie. Especially a rookie that probably cost the team 2 wins with critical late drive drops.

Review of today’s performance: “Soft as f—.”

His day: “Go out there 1st, 2nd quarter, don’t get the ball, start getting targets at the end. I mean, I can’t do nothing. Start getting the ball when it’s 30-0. What you want me to do?”

Why no looks in the first half? “I don’t know. Talk to Dabs about that. Talk to Dabs.”

On the QB change supposed to provide a spark: “I mean obviously it ain’t the quarterback. Same outcome when we had DJ at quarterback. I mean take a look. It ain’t the quarterback.”

Is it the playcalling? “I don’t know. I don’t know what it is. I know I'm tired of losing.”

Hot take: Nabers is absolutely right. I don't care that he's a rookie. He's your 6th overall marquee receiver and he didn't even get a target for all of the 1st half and only started getting the ball thrown at him when the game is out of reach.

He's absolutely right to be ticked off.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don't know guys. I think this year's Giants team is worse than anything that Shurmur or Joe Judge oversaw.

This team stinks with a capital S.


Hot take: Nabers is absolutely right. I don't care that he's a rookie. He's your 6th overall marquee receiver and he didn't even get a target for all of the 1st half and only started getting the ball thrown at him when the game is out of reach.

He's absolutely right to be ticked off.

I don't like players to complain to the media but that doesn't mean he is wrong. Id rather him go up to the coach/play caller and speak to him.

 

[Bob Richards]

I don't know guys. I think this year's Giants team is worse than anything that Shurmur or Joe Judge oversaw.

This team stinks with a capital S.

The 2017 and 2021 teams are the worst giants teams I’ve ever watched so I’m morbidly interested to see how this one compares.

I still think they need some statement games like the 2021 team. Those guys had the Bears loss which featured the worst QB performance since the forward pass was legalized and the second Washington loss which had the infamous 3rd down QB sneak.

 

[I Eat Crow]

The 2017 and 2021 teams are the worst giants teams I’ve ever watched so I’m morbidly interested to see how this one compares.

I still think they need some statement games like the 2021 team. Those guys had the Bears loss which featured the worst QB performance since the forward pass was legalized and the second Washington loss which had the infamous 3rd down QB sneak.

They're trending for a top 3 pick. My initial reaction is to trade it for a haul given what's going to be available. They're never going to draft a black quarterback. Just not happening. I'm so confused by all of the mock drafts that have Sanders going to the Giants. His father pretty much ruled it out. He's going to go to Dallas.

Jeanty? Looks explosive but his competition is shit. Hunter will be off the board unless they grab #1 or #2 overall. Kid is special but I'm skeptical a CB will go #1 overall at the end of the day.

Trade the pick for 3 future 1sts and a trade down this year and commit to the rebuild.

 

[Ben Grimm]

Giants' Daboll talks with Nabers after WR's rant

Giants coach Brian Daboll spoke with Malik Nabers on Sunday night and again Monday morning after the rookie wide receiver expressed his frustration following the blowout loss to the Buccaneers.

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NFL Winners and Losers: The Giants are horrendous, and probably will be for a while

The Giants' season keeps hitting new lows.

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[SnowblindNYR]

They're trending for a top 3 pick. My initial reaction is to trade it for a haul given what's going to be available. They're never going to draft a black quarterback. Just not happening. I'm so confused by all of the mock drafts that have Sanders going to the Giants. His father pretty much ruled it out. He's going to go to Dallas.

Jeanty? Looks explosive but his competition is shit. Hunter will be off the board unless they grab #1 or #2 overall. Kid is special but I'm skeptical a CB will go #1 overall at the end of the day.

Trade the pick for 3 future 1sts and a trade down this year and commit to the rebuild.

Won't have a black GM either.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Won't have a black GM either.

Jerry Reese was...

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Jerry Reese was...

That was my point. The argument that the Giants won't ever have a black QB because they haven't is a dumb argument made by race baiters. Considering:

1) They had a black GM for 10 seasons.

2) They had one QB that played all but one game in Eli Manning for 15 seasons from 2004 to 2019.

3) The anger over the racism of this org mostly started because the Giants draft Jones over Haskins. But Haskins was not a can't miss prospect and was a worse player than Daniel Jones.

 

[I Eat Crow]

That was my point. The argument that the Giants won't ever have a black QB because they haven't is a dumb argument made by race baiters. Considering:

1) They had a black GM for 10 seasons.

2) They had one QB that played all but one game in Eli Manning for 15 seasons from 2004 to 2019.

3) The anger over the racism of this org mostly started because the Giants draft Jones over Haskins. But Haskins was not a can't miss prospect and was a worse player than Daniel Jones.

Ok, now I got you.

For what it's worth, I think Ward is an awesome prospect and should be the guy if he's there at their pick and they don't trade the pick.