Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

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[Beef Invictus]

That may be true for players in a contract year. But what about players like Sanheim or Farabee? They wouldn't have to perform like are now and still get paid for 5+ years.
If you like it or not, Tortorella obviously knows which buttons to push.

What are they going to do? Sulk for years? That still kills their value. That's not how hockey really works. Players strongly tend to buy in and put out the effort. We saw it with players still giving it their all with Berube, Hakstol, and AV.

It isn't an accident that Tortorella had full player revolts in NY and Vancouver.

 

[Starat327]

Did I really just see a " why do people do their jobs if they dont like their managers?" Post?

Like...really see it?

 

[Embiid]

That may be true for players in a contract year. But what about players like Sanheim or Farabee? They wouldn't have to perform like are now and still get paid for 5+ years.
If you like it or not, Tortorella obviously knows which buttons to push.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

Never saw that poll tbh, so I can't comment on that. But why would the players work so hard if they hated their coach? Out of fear? In that case that seems to be working, as well.

In the hope that a better team will trade for them? Just a wild guess.

 

[TCTC]

In the hope that a better team will trade for them? Just a wild guess.

That is a wild guess. What if a worse team trades for them?

 

[FlyguyOX]

People really still questioning Torts? Goodness. Never change, flyers board

 

[GapToothedWonder]

That is a wild guess. What if a worse team trades for them?

They'd still probably be okay with it once they realized training camp no longer involved any rope play.

#nokinkshaming

 

[Curufinwe]

Why wouldn't we question a guy who hasn't been able to get a team over the hump since the 2005 lockout and who makes one bizarre lineup decision after another?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Why wouldn't we question a guy who hasn't been able to get a team over the hump since the 2005 lockout and who makes one bizarre lineup decision after another?

Look, you can't question him. He is an authority. But so are the players. Oh god being positive hurts, but I will persevere for the good of all

 

[gertbfrobe16]

That is a wild guess. What if a worse team trades for them?

They might be happy about that too.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

That may be true for players in a contract year. But what about players like Sanheim or Farabee? They wouldn't have to perform like are now and still get paid for 5+ years.
If you like it or not, Tortorella obviously knows which buttons to push.

If you like your job but hate your boss what do you do. My previous boss was a micromanaging clown but I still showed up to work everyday and did my job

 

[TCTC]

If you like your job but hate your boss what do you do. My previous boss was a micromanaging clown but I still showed up to work everyday and did my job

Of course, they're professionals. But players don't even have to like their coach. They just have to respect him and trust in his abilities to coach. And when I look at this team right now, I don't see a single player that's underperforming relative to expectations. So he must be doing something right.

I'm not even a fan of Tortorella and his tough love approach may seem antiquated at times, but I can't ignore the fact that he seems to be able to get the best out of his players. He's only in his second year and we've already had a handful of players that have had career years under him. That doesn't happen if the players want him gone sooner rather than later.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Tortorella is the Doc Rivers of the NHL

 

[flyersnorth]

There's more than one way to coach and get results.

You can call your players toilet seats and bench them in their hometowns. You can go wakeboarding in your down time. You can drink martinis. You can bake a cake. You can get cancer.

We've certainly run the gamut of coaching styles and personalities. I think any given one of them can win, and they are one important variable in a veritable stew of variables.

 

[mr figgles]

Tortorella is the Doc Rivers of the NHL

Torts wishes he was as successful as Doc.

 

[Curufinwe]

Doc is a nice guy and not a pathological liar.

 

[Embiid]

The only thing that is analogous to Glen Rivers is that Tortorella is a zombie dino that keeps resurfacing.

 

[freakydallas13]

There's more than one way to coach and get results.

You can call your players toilet seats and bench them in their hometowns. You can go wakeboarding in your down time. You can drink martinis. You can bake a cake. You can get cancer.

We've certainly run the gamut of coaching styles and personalities. I think any given one of them can win, and they are one important variable in a veritable stew of variables.

Any are viable other than martini coach. He was the worst of the bunch to me.

 

[Embiid]

Any are viable other than martini coach. He was the worst of the bunch to me.

Was that French Hak who employed his Maginot Line defense for the Flyers?

 

[Magua]

Torts wishes he was as successful as Doc.

Tortorella has won 4 playoff rounds since the 03-04 Lightning. And I think there's a pretty easy argument he's more successful than Glenn Rivers relative to expectations. Imagine if Tortorella coached a prime Kucherov/Hedman/Point-era Lightning team for 15 years and made maybe one ECF. A truly special talent pisser hopping from contender to contender.

Doc is a nice guy and not a pathological liar.

Doc is every bit as much of a political animal as Tortorella. He just claps more and has more tact with throwing people under buses. Loves to control narratives and make himself the hero, usually after the fact.

I also don't know if Tortorella would have traded rookie Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Even Tortorella gives young players far more rope than Doc.

 

[mr figgles]

Tortorella has won 4 playoff rounds since the 03-04 Lightning. And I think there's a pretty easy argument he's more successful than Glenn Rivers relative to expectations. Imagine if Tortorella coached a prime Kucherov/Hedman/Point-era Lightning team for 15 years and made maybe one ECF. A truly special talent pisser hopping from contender to contender.



Doc is every bit as much of a political animal as Tortorella. He just claps more and has more tact with throwing people under buses. Loves to control narratives and make himself the hero, usually after the fact.

I also don't know if Tortorella would have traded rookie Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Even Tortorella gives young players far more rope than Doc.

Won 4 playoff rounds and missed the playoffs 7 times. He wishes he was Doc.

 

[Magua]

Won 4 playoff rounds and missed the playoffs 7 times. He wishes he was Doc.

Wow, man. You've convinced me alright.

 

[mr figgles]

Wow, man. You've convinced me alright.

Cool

 

[Magua]

Cool

Go Bucks.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Won 4 playoff rounds and missed the playoffs 7 times. He wishes he was Doc.

As a Clippers fan, Doc couldn't push the Clippers further than Vinny Del Negro in the playoffs. Doc lives his coaching reputation due to having a trifecta of top tier talent late in his Boston coaching career. Uber talent carried Doc, not the other way around. The very next season after Doc left the Clips, Lue took the Clips to the Western Conf Finals twice in three years.

Apparently, that problem for Doc not getting past the 2nd round with the Clips still rings true with the Philadelphia. Also, Doc was practicing nepotism by playing his son over better talented players while with the Clips. Doc in Clippers land was, in the delightful words of Sir Charles Barkley, "Turrible!"