GDT: Flyers should OF kept doughty and steve hartnell

[bleedgreen]

Agreed. I think most of the goals with that truck have happened exactly as mentioned. I'm not sure but I think at least William Karlsson did it like that couple seasons ago. In a breakaway from that angle it didn't add any value, he did it just for the show.

Doing the lacrosse move and other fancy tricks is good when they are unexpected and add some element of scoring (such as Svech now having the option of doing that from behind the net). Doing the tricks for the sake of YouTube views is not okay.

Both lefties, both left to right. You’re right, it did have the feel of showing off more than being an in game flow moment of spontaneous skill.

 

[bleedgreen]

i think it is worth noting that svech's chance was half an inch from going in. elliot barely got it with his toe. if he lifted it slightly more, it was a goal.

Make the goalie move and you get that inch. Coming straight at him the puck is right by your left foot, whereas if he holds it out deeper on the forehand like a normal shot it’s two feet off to the left which is looking right at the short side. You can score it coming straight but the goalie has to be off his angle the whole time, because the puck is looking at the right pad if the goalie is in the right spot.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Shaya is terrible and legitimately takes away my enjoyment of the game.

Did Tripp actually say Sumo wrestlers are big Caniacs? What a f***ing gem.

 

[FreshSeabass]

With Shaya every shot no matter what kind is " he fires" and every goal is "he scoressssss" there is no variation to it. Really forget how spoiled we are with john calling the games.

Also how cool is this. I think hes gonna be sticking around for a while.

 

[MinJaBen]

Did Tripp actually say Sumo wrestlers are big Caniacs? What a ****ing gem.

He did and the XM guys this morning loved it.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Shaya is terrible and legitimately takes away my enjoyment of the game.

Did Tripp actually say Sumo wrestlers are big Caniacs? What a ****ing gem.

Can FSC spring to get the poor guy to a tailor? f***s sake his suit is 3 sizes too big and he’s only got 1.

 

[GoldiFox]

Multiple times last night the Canes had the puck in the offensive zone and Shaya says "<Player X> has the puck.... he passes... he shoots" and then it's just radio silence for seconds as he tries to... remember players names? Sit and watch the play? Recognize how awkward it was to say "he" twice without naming the second player? He's so much worse than Forslund that it's painfully apparent.

 

[MinJaBen]

Multiple times last night the Canes had the puck in the offensive zone and Shaya says "<Player X> has the puck.... he passes... he shoots" and then it's just radio silence for seconds as he tries to... remember players names? Sit and watch the play? Recognize how awkward it was to say "he" twice without naming the second player? He's so much worse than Forslund that it's painfully apparent.

If he becomes the play-by-play guy when John retires or moves on, I'll start reading the boxscores for some excitement.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Multiple times last night the Canes had the puck in the offensive zone and Shaya says "<Player X> has the puck.... he passes... he shoots" and then it's just radio silence for seconds as he tries to... remember players names? Sit and watch the play? Recognize how awkward it was to say "he" twice without naming the second player? He's so much worse than Forslund that it's painfully apparent.

It’s going from the best pro to a minor leaguer. Thats what it’s going to look like. I feel bad for the guy but it would be impossible for someone in his position to step in for John and not be completely outclassed.

It’s like taking your 4th line center and saying, hey replace Connor McDavid on the 1st line.

 

[RodTheBawd]

He dropped the "he dumps the puck deep knowing his team is changing" line at least 4 times.

He's an AHL lifer.

 

[The Faulker 27]

I'm not real sure why Shaya even gets the nod. You'd think that FSC would have at least a comparable back up. I like Shaya, but he's just not a pro sport caller. His screams after a goal sound like he's shitting his pants in church.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

It's hockey, FSC probably has nobody else that even knows the game other than Forslund and Shaya.

 

[cptjeff]

I mean, Shaya is perfectly competent as a backup. Knows the names, can keep up with the flow of the game (which is f***ing hard), and he knows the team pretty well. He's not John by any stretch of the imagination, but the reason pbp guys stick around for a long time in all sports is because it's legitimately not an easy thing to do. Listen to a random NCAA team's student broadcast sometime and you'll understand how decent Shaya is, and how much of a god Forslund is.

 

[AD Skinner]

Yeah shaya is not great by any stretch, but no one out there is close to as good as forslund. Hes fine as a backup and while I wouldn't want him doing full time if john does ever leave, it's not an easy job.

 

[My Special Purpose]

let me have my "old man yells at cloud" moment and say that i didn't like the svechnikov breakaway because i hate fun. in seriousness, if the game was tied or we had a lead there's no problem with it for me. to call that move low percentage would be generous and we were down a goal. it only counts for one no matter how pretty it looks. it's good that he feels confident enough to try that and you don't want to take creativity out of his game, so you probably let it go if you're rba but you can't tell me he scores more consistently on that than he does picking a spot with his wrister or trying something less elaborate. he's probably feeling some pressure to be inventive after the buzz he generated for himself with the first two michigans, but let's go with something higher percentage.

My $.02 on this: I instinctively winced when he did it, then spent the rest of the night thinking about it, and if it was fair to think it was the wrong play. He got a great chance and almost scored, so it's not like he flubbed the chance. It legit *could* have gone in. But I think it illustrates what's wrong with Svech right now, and that's the reason I didn't like it. I think Svech just puts so much pressure on himself that he simply tries too hard. I think that's the root of a lot of the penalties, as well. He's young, so he hasn't learned to control emotions yet.

And he's not the only one. Aho, Slavin, Foegele, Martinook, and others. You can see these guys trying to put the team on their back from time to time. It's admirable, but it doesn't work. Maybe it will be good to have JW back to keep these guys focused on doing their jobs.

We *say* keep it simple, but when we go out there, we make it complicated. We *really* need to start keeping it simple.

 

[Chrispy]

Yeah shaya is not great by any stretch, but no one out there is close to as good as forslund. Hes fine as a backup and while I wouldn't want him doing full time if john does ever leave, it's not an easy job.

Agreed. We're spoiled, and I sometimes forget how lucky we are to have Forslund.

Then I visit relatives and watch the Caps, or Panthers, or Bruins. And I'm reminded how lucky we are as a fan base.

 

[geehaad]

This is a reminder that Tripp Tracy is paid large sums of money specifically to provide insight into what happens during an NHL game, and has been for over 20 years.

But please do please carry on with your bitching about the 4 games per year called by Jason Shaya.

 

[MinJaBen]

This is a reminder that Tripp Tracy is paid large sums of money specifically to provide insight into what happens during an NHL game, and has been for over 20 years.

But please do please carry on with your *****ing about the 4 games per year called by Jason Shaya.

Tripp brings out the best in John. I listened to John's call of the Edmonton - Toronto game when he was paired with a female color analyst and she was terrible and John was more subdued and monotone in his call. Still much better than Shaya, but not close to his peak self when paired with Tracy.

 

[The Faulker 27]

This is a reminder that Tripp Tracy is paid large sums of money specifically to provide insight into what happens during an NHL game, and has been for over 20 years.

But please do please carry on with your *****ing about the 4 games per year called by Jason Shaya.

I've often wondered what Tripp's salary might be. I know John makes a very good living, especially when you factor in his work with NBC.

 

[stevewin]

Dude that’s pretty tit for tat with him and Konecny. Late hit followed by courtesy slash. Pretty soft IMO.

Was at the game and for some reason Konecny was really going after Svetch starting early in the first period - not sure if something happened betwen them or if it was some kind of premeditated thing - but he was REALLY going after him and I think got in his head. Think it was also after the breakaway so not sure if that had something to do with it - thinking he was showing them up. At some point it looked like Haula stepped in to stick up for Svetch - but Kenecny was relentless. Was honestly surprised it took that long for Svetch to take a stupid retaliation penalty.

BTW - it was crazy to see Reimer live - never seen a goalie so consistently unaware of where the puck was - it was insane.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

This is a reminder that Tripp Tracy is paid large sums of money specifically to provide insight into what happens during an NHL game, and has been for over 20 years.

But please do please carry on with your *****ing about the 4 games per year called by Jason Shaya.

And listening to other color commentators, Tripp is pretty good tbh. He's also a goober, and sometimes that engulfs his entire performance.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

konecny and foegele nearly fought in the first period after konecny went after svech. not sure what it was all about

 

[stevewin]

Reimer losing a sumo match seems like an appropriate Storm Surge for this game.

Yeah - but even more appropriate would have been if he stood there poised in position and didn't see Mrazek coming at him

 

[geehaad]

never mind

 

[Joe McGrath]

konecny and foegele nearly fought in the first period after konecny went after svech. not sure what it was all about

Konecny is a bit of a rat. Nothing more to it I don’t think.