Confirmed with Link: Flyers Re-Sign Nick Seeler To Two Year Deal ($775K) (One-Way/Two-Way)

deadhead

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Well they almost certainly see him as a #5 or a #6, so maybe they should be shooting higher.

#7s don't play over half a season and have that cut short only due to injury and plague.
They do when the #1 misses the whole season, in that case #7 becomes #6.
Once they started auditioning the young D-men, Seeler's TOI was substantially less than York, Attard or Zamula.
 
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The #7 should not become the #6. He should stay the #7.

Let's say the Flyers' top six is some combination of Provorov, Sanheim, York, Risto, Ellis, and Zamula next season. When Ellis tweaks his knee in pre game for game 1, Seeler should come in and play. After that, when we find out he's month to month with a torn MCL, Seeler should go back upstairs and Attard (for example) should get called up until Ellis comes back. And if Attard struggles, you bring up Hogberg or Ginning. What you should not do is dress Seeler until Ellis is healthy and go waiver diving for a new #7 (or post Attard/Hogberg/Ginning in the press box as the 7).
 

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The #7 should not become the #6. He should stay the #7.

Let's say the Flyers' top six is some combination of Provorov, Sanheim, York, Risto, Ellis, and Zamula next season. When Ellis tweaks his knee in pre game for game 1, Seeler should come in and play. After that, when we find out he's month to month with a torn MCL, Seeler should go back upstairs and Attard (for example) should get called up until Ellis comes back. And if Attard struggles, you bring up Hogberg or Ginning. What you should not do is dress Seeler until Ellis is healthy and go waiver diving for a new #7 (or post Attard/Hogberg/Ginning in the press box as the 7).
No. What you do is play Seeler until Fletcher, in consultation with the LHV HC, decide that a prospect is ready for full-time duty. That's how it should work anywhere.

Last season York was 20 and Zamula 21, both had missed PT the last two years, so neither should have been rushed. They might have been too conservative with York, but we're talking weeks or maybe a month, he wasn't ready to start the season. Zamula was injured to start the season, then got ill and lost 10 lbs mid-season, and was up and down at times in LHV, so he basically took himself out of the picture for a while.

Newhook wasn't even playing in the POs, despite 4 "scrubs" ahead of him, it took a Burakovsky meltdown for him to get into the lineup. This was despite playing 71 games in the regular season at 21 years old. Flyers aren't the only team where veterans "block" prospects.
 
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No. What you do is play Seeler until Fletcher, in consultation with the LHV HC, decide that a prospect is ready for full-time duty. That's how it should work anywhere.

Last season York was 20 and Zamula 21, both had missed PT the last two years, so neither should have been rushed. They might have been too conservative with York, but we're talking weeks or maybe a month, he wasn't ready to start the season. Zamula was injured to start the season, then got ill and lost 10 lbs mid-season, and was up and down at times in LHV, so he basically took himself out of the picture for a while.

Newhook wasn't even playing in the POs, despite 4 "scrubs" ahead of him, it took a Burakovsky meltdown for him to get into the lineup. This was despite playing 71 games in the regular season at 21 years old. Flyers aren't the only team where veterans "block" prospects.

Fletcher is incapable of making that evaluation correctly. He's already blown it several times on some easy cases.

Lappy's brain is made of dull meat.
 

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Well they almost certainly see him as a #5 or a #6, so maybe they should be shooting higher.

#7s don't play over half a season and have that cut short only due to injury and plague.

I was going to say sure they do, look at Keith yandle.

But thats more a #9 playing 93% of the season so it's technically not apples to apples, I guess.
 

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Seeler with Yandle, xGF 35.76%, xGFrel -9.83
Seeler with Sanheim xGF 60.02%, xGFrel +16.34
Yandle with Sanheim, xGF 47.92%, xGF +2.09

Yandle was an advanced metrics black hole with every D-man, except strangely enough, Zamula, and to a lesser extent, York.
Seeler is not a good player, but pair him with a decent RHD and he'd probably be a passable 3rd pair guy.
Which is what you want from your #7 D-man.

Seeler is not a good player but he's a vet dman, which means the Flyers will not scratch him next year.

It's Flyer's hockey man
 

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When he's on the third pair with a rookie I assure you they'll consider him the more important member of that pair.

Some of you guys have just not paid any attention to how the Flyers think and behave.
This is accurate. I did not think they'd play Yandle last year 70+ times and never heard of Seeler before last year and therefore didn't think he'd get on the ice. But they both did. Seeler will definitely be in the lineup which is ridiculous, but honestly our defensive prospects suck so it really doesn't matter. Attard or Zamula or Hogberg aren't going to be anything special, even if they're better than Seeler. Let Seeler suck and Pray Hard for Connor Bedard™.
 
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