Flyers Over/Under 76.5 points

[captainpaxil]

Over. 87 pts with a bunch of otl

 

[deadhead]

I don't think this is an awful team, I think 2021-22 was an aberration, a combination of AV checking out and really bad injury luck.
2020-21 gives a better sense of this team and even then that was a bizarro season.

That team was a middle of the road squad, with average goaltending they'd probably have been on the edge of playoff contention.
A league average Sv% would have resulted in 37 less goals allowed and put them at GF/GA 160/160.

Gone: G, Voracek, Lindblom, NAK, Patrick, Raffl, Bunnaman, Twarynski, Ghost, Myers, Gus, Hagg, Morin, Friedman, Elliott
Only G, Voracek and Ghost are more than 4th line/3rd pair players or out of the NHL. And G and Voracek are 35 and 33.

Added: Atkinson, Deslauriers, TDA, Risto,

Most of the difference this season will come down to young players, N Cates, Frost, Tippett, Allison, Laczynski, York, Attard, Sandstrom and later in the season Zamula, Foerster, Lycksell, Brink, Wisdom, Desnoyers.

If they step up, this team will be younger and better than two years ago, if they don't, time to tear it down.

That's why I expect 75-80, to do better the kids have to be "all right."

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I'll be placing a decent-sized wager on the over 76.5. I think it's a great bet.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I've decided to go over. The most Flyers thing to do will be missing the playoffs by the smallest amount while also destroying their draft position by the maximum amount.

 

[Lord Defect]

I've decided to go over. The most Flyers thing to do will be missing the playoffs by the smallest amount while also destroying their draft position by the maximum amount.

100%. I just voted over and you voiced pretty much my opinion.

 

[IronMarshal]

I am afraid it will be over, but chose under which is what I am hoping for. Please let us get Bedard!

 

[Lord Defect]

I am afraid it will be over, but chose under which is what I am hoping for. Please let us get Bedard!

I think you’re missing the whole point of this.

 

[BlackandOrange]

Over, 78 points.

 

[Petr Svoboda Mullet]

I've decided to go over. The most Flyers thing to do will be missing the playoffs by the smallest amount while also destroying their draft position by the maximum amount.

It is the Flyers way

 

[04hockey]

over, defense will be better, I think Attard is for real, Hart rebounds and young forwards will add excitement
.....think they'll even be fun to watch much to the chagrin of the depressives' on this board

 

[blackjackmulligan]

For the record, 76.5 is the 5th-lowest O/U on DraftKings.

Bottom 12:

1. Arizona: 65.5
1. Chicago: 65.5
3. Montreal: 71.5
4. San Jose: 74.5
5. Philadelphia: 76.5
6. Buffalo: 77.5
7. Anaheim: 80.5
7. Columbus: 80.5
9. Seattle: 81.5
10. Detroit: 84.5
11. Ottawa: 86.5
12. Winnipeg: 87.5

(the rest are 90+)

lock for over and over buffalo. Flyers will get a steady diet of back up goalies.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

I don't think this is an awful team, I think 2021-22 was an aberration, a combination of AV checking out and really bad injury luck.
2020-21 gives a better sense of this team and even then that was a bizarro season.

That team was a middle of the road squad, with average goaltending they'd probably have been on the edge of playoff contention.
A league average Sv% would have resulted in 37 less goals allowed and put them at GF/GA 160/160.

Gone: G, Voracek, Lindblom, NAK, Patrick, Raffl, Bunnaman, Twarynski, Ghost, Myers, Gus, Hagg, Morin, Friedman, Elliott
Only G, Voracek and Ghost are more than 4th line/3rd pair players or out of the NHL. And G and Voracek are 35 and 33.

Added: Atkinson, Deslauriers, TDA, Risto,

Most of the difference this season will come down to young players, N Cates, Frost, Tippett, Allison, Laczynski, York, Attard, Sandstrom and later in the season Zamula, Foerster, Lycksell, Brink, Wisdom, Desnoyers.

If they step up, this team will be younger and better than two years ago, if they don't, time to tear it down.

That's why I expect 75-80, to do better the kids have to be "all right."

Compared to what? Where you have them in the division? The conf? they are at the bottom. Therefore they are an awful team.

You keep touting these "young" guys and prospects like they are t all that, they are dime a dozen every team has in spades.

That's about where I have them 75-80, Torts isn't concerned about winning this year, he's going to put the team through the gaunlet, and eliminate the players who don't play 200 feet.

He is trying to change the losing culture yet you do no think he "cares" about winning.

This is golden parachute retirement contract. We shall see how Torts responds to this band of misfits.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

And then he paid multiple draft picks to fill the "offensive dman" role when it was realized Risto can't.


These "meh" moves have added up to create an awful team.

Was it realized? They kept shoving the shut down physicals dman role to everyone, which is comical.

They didn't even try to utilize him in that role from what I recall.

 

[mja]

I've decided to go over. The most Flyers thing to do will be missing the playoffs by the smallest amount while also destroying their draft position by the maximum amount.

With Sanheim going off for a career year and kept at the deadline to try to vainly make that last playoff spot, and then walking away for nothing this summer.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

With Sanheim going off for a career year and kept at the deadline to try to vainly make that last playoff spot, and then walking away for nothing this summer.

STOP! trying to will this into existance...

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I've decided to go over. The most Flyers thing to do will be missing the playoffs by the smallest amount while also destroying their draft position by the maximum amount.

Maximum Pain

 

[Hextallent63]

lock for over and over buffalo. Flyers will get a steady diet of back up goalies.

back up goalies destroy us. like travis zajac.

 

[deadhead]

Compared to what? Where you have them in the division? The conf? they are at the bottom. Therefore they are an awful team.

You keep touting these "young" guys and prospects like they are t all that, they are dime a dozen every team has in spades.


He is trying to change the losing culture yet you do no think he "cares" about winning.

This is golden parachute retirement contract. We shall see how Torts responds to this band of misfits.

Torts doesn't seem like a guy who's looking forward to retirement. Wound a little tight for that.

You don't know if a player is a "dime a dozen" until they hit the ice.

CBJ had a bunch of picks outside the 1st rd when Torts turned them around:

Atkinson #157
Jenner #37
Anderson #95
Karlsson #53
Bjorkstrand #89
Calvert #127
Savard #94
Nutivaara #189

So did Carolina when Brind'Amour turned them around:
Ferland #133
Wallmark #97
McGinn #47
Martinook #58
Foegele #67

Faulk #37
Slavin #120
Pesce #66

Some of this is good drafting, but a lot I think is a HC who knows how to put players in positions where they can be successful.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Torts doesn't seem like a guy who's looking forward to retirement. Wound a little tight for that.

You don't know if a player is a "dime a dozen" until they hit the ice.

CBJ had a bunch of picks outside the 1st rd when Torts turned them around:

Atkinson #157
Jenner #37
Anderson #95
Karlsson #53
Bjorkstrand #89
Calvert #127
Savard #94
Nutivaara #189

So did Carolina when Brind'Amour turned them around:
Ferland #133n't
Wallmark #97
McGinn #47
Martinook #58
Foegele #67

Faulk #37
Slavin #120
Pesce #66

Some of this is good drafting, but a lot I think is a HC who knows how to put players in positions where they can be successful.

He would be retired if the Flyers didn't hire him as I do not recall any team showing any interest or him even getting a courtesy interview.

Flyers prospects do nothing that stands out. Nothing any other team does have, that is why it is a dime a dozen prospect pool. Tell me how Desnoyers will be ready for the NHL next season possibly this season.

You severely overrate these prospects. They have the market cornered on bottom line players.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Torts doesn't seem like a guy who's looking forward to retirement. Wound a little tight for that.

You don't know if a player is a "dime a dozen" until they hit the ice.

CBJ had a bunch of picks outside the 1st rd when Torts turned them around:

Atkinson #157
Jenner #37
Anderson #95
Karlsson #53
Bjorkstrand #89
Calvert #127
Savard #94
Nutivaara #189

So did Carolina when Brind'Amour turned them around:
Ferland #133
Wallmark #97
McGinn #47
Martinook #58
Foegele #67

Faulk #37
Slavin #120
Pesce #66

Some of this is good drafting, but a lot I think is a HC who knows how to put players in positions where they can be successful.

He already said this is his last coaching job, so it seems he is ready for retirement.

 

[Rodu58]

under, the injuries have already started months ago

 

[Flyerfan4life]

He already said this is his last coaching job, so it seems he is ready for retirement.

it figures the Flyers would be his last stop..

such a Flyers tradition..

sign someone to one last kick at the can before retirement..

#facepalm...

 

[PALE PWNR]

Under. Hopefully easily.

 

[BiggE]

I have to go under for the following reasons:

They don’t have a legit, proven #2 goalie and Hart seems to be pretty brittle

Way too many players are coming off significant injuries

The right side of the D is horrid and they do not have a NHL quality top pairing

Depending on injuries and how quickly they start selling off players, I see them finishing in the 68-76 point range.

 

[Lord Defect]

Over and it won’t help anything. It will dig us deeper into the hell we’re already in.