Florida’s future in net…is Bob.

[Laus723]

Future Goalie of the Florida Panthers? It Looks Like Bobrovsky

COLUMBUS — When Sergei Bobrovsky left the Blue Jackets in 2019 to sign with the Florida Panthers, many figured that seven-year contract was basically a five-year deal. By the way the contract was written, a lot of the money paid to Bobrovsky would be paid off in the first five years. If he was...

floridahockeynow.com

GR goes into it here. Says management believes he’s in his prime and could go another 5 years. Doesn’t sound like they’ll re-sign him for the same amount, but they want to re-sign him. I thought for sure they would’ve let him walk before they moved Spence. Bob is in a good space mentally and physically.

 

[Idiot Stick]

 

[ShootIt]

Well, hopefully the backup they get is can be the next Logan Thompson gem find.

No doubt Bob can play for a bit longer but there comes a point for all athletes where the body can't keep up.
Felt like Tim Thomas was pulling something in his lower body every week his one year

 

[RogerRoger]

Well, hopefully the backup they get is can be the next Logan Thompson gem find.

No doubt Bob can play for a bit longer but there comes a point for all athletes where the body can't keep up.
Felt like Tim Thomas was pulling something in his lower body every week his one year

Thomas' pretty great, but he sat on his ass probably doing nothing for 2 years before coming back.

 

[Sticksandsun]

50 game max next year then?
Luongo must have some say here of course?
He is skinny and limber but worry about anything over 2 year deal, takes him to 40 or 41?

 

[Felidae]

Future Goalie of the Florida Panthers? It Looks Like Bobrovsky

COLUMBUS — When Sergei Bobrovsky left the Blue Jackets in 2019 to sign with the Florida Panthers, many figured that seven-year contract was basically a five-year deal. By the way the contract was written, a lot of the money paid to Bobrovsky would be paid off in the first five years. If he was...

floridahockeynow.com

GR goes into it here. Says management believes he’s in his prime and could go another 5 years. Doesn’t sound like they’ll re-sign him for the same amount, but they want to re-sign him. I thought for sure they would’ve let him walk before they moved Spence. Bob is in a good space mentally and physically.

Another 5 years is pretty optimistic... Goalies better than Bob have retired before 41 and seen their play decline significantly in that time span.

Maybe he can pull off a Fleury in those last couple of years where he halves the starting load with another goaltender.

 

[I am not exposed]

Future Goalie of the Florida Panthers? It Looks Like Bobrovsky

COLUMBUS — When Sergei Bobrovsky left the Blue Jackets in 2019 to sign with the Florida Panthers, many figured that seven-year contract was basically a five-year deal. By the way the contract was written, a lot of the money paid to Bobrovsky would be paid off in the first five years. If he was...

floridahockeynow.com

GR goes into it here. Says management believes he’s in his prime and could go another 5 years. Doesn’t sound like they’ll re-sign him for the same amount, but they want to re-sign him. I thought for sure they would’ve let him walk before they moved Spence. Bob is in a good space mentally and physically.

Well that would be ludicrous if they did.

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

I'd be fine giving him a 3 year at 5m AAV and keeping Vanecek as a backup for 1 more season. The new heir needs to be found soon if he's not already in the system (Black).

 

[Laus723]

Another 5 years is pretty optimistic... Goalies better than Bob have retired before 41 and seen their play decline significantly in that time span.

Maybe he can pull off a Fleury in those last couple of years where he halves the starting load with another goaltender.

I agree, I think Mo is just overstating

 

[Idiot Stick]

i can totally see Bobs game aging like Quick, dudes 39 and still pretty solid

 

[FrolikFan67]

between his natural athleticism and his rigorous workout regimen, I think he’ll have 3-4 years of solid play. 5 isn’t inconceivable, just may not be at this level. With the way he currently looks and with a solid team in front of him, he’ll get through next year just fine and then sign him for 2-3yrs at a reasonable aav. I’m not too concerned for the next 3 seasons to follow this one, the 4th and 5th year are more wild cards but we’ll see.

As far as a successor is concerned, most teams don’t just have a guy pre-committed that they’ll just hand the reigns over to. Who knows, maybe cooper black is the guy. Let him marinate in the AHL for several years like we should’ve done with knight. And when bob starts to slow down we can ease him in. Or you explore your options through ufa or trades. Goalies typically don’t return a big haul and we’ve been good about identifying goaltenders in general. Driedger, Lyon, and Stolarz all excelled here

 

[teugen]

i can totally see Bobs game aging like Quick, dudes 39 and still pretty solid

Yeah Bob isnt aging Quick. But in all seriousness the fall off can happen at that age pretty much overnight. Its voodoo.

 

[Idiot Stick]

slobbert now 7th in GAA and 2nd for shutouts

 

[Dread Clawz]

I think a 2-3 year deal at 4-5 M makes sense.

 

[KW]

I think a 2-3 year deal at 4-5 M makes sense.

Yeah; 2yrs x 4M.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Yeah; 2yrs x 4M.

That'd be awesome, though at two years I'd expect it to cost more. I'd really prefer 2 years instead of 3 because fall of the cliff can come so fast, but we'll see.

Though I wonder if this is another reason why Zito is betting on Bob instead of Knight. If Knight establishes himself as a n.1, his next contract will be expensive. With Bob, you can hope for the "35+ discount".

 

[LexAsh]

Wonder if they look at Hunter Shepard in the offseason. Blocked by Logan Thompson and Charlie Lindgren. NCAA champion and 2x AHL champion. UFA this summer.

 

[ShootIt]

With his next deal being a +35 contract, less term the better.

 

[pantherbot]

What's interesting with Bob is he probably doesn't have a lot of wear and tear on his body. The time he had some injury issues with his groin with Columbus, it wasn't any one major injury, and then he came back to win the Vezina again.

Looking at games played, there are some interesting comparisons. Bob has only three seasons above 60 games and no seasons above 65. For total games played, Bob had only played 700 games by the time he turned 36, while recent contemporaries that have played 1,000+, Fleury and Luongo by age 36 had played around 850 games (along with many 60+ game seasons and some 70+ ones for Lu). Quick by age 36 also had around 700 games, but he dealt with more injuries and had more peak games played years (couple 70+ game seasons and deep playoff runs earlier in his career). Also consider Bob's had less playoff games than the others until recently.

So given all that, if he stays in relatively good health and we pace his games, 950-1,000 games could be the level where he potentially drops off, which means another 5 years at a high level is possible.

Not saying I'm 100% comfortable with that and we shouldn't have a good pipeline/backup plan, but I was surprised looking at these numbers and this would suggest we have more time with Bob playing at a high level than you'd think just based on his age. So if he's our goalie for the next 4-5 years playing say 50-55 games in the regular season with a good development pipeline, sure I'm all for it.

 

[Sticksandsun]

@mouser IIRC 35+ year deals are easier to buyout in terms of saving $ and cap no?
Or is it the reverse?

Ex: Zito signs Bob to a 3 year deal starting 2026-27, they buy him out that 3rd year, they would save 66% of the money and cap no?

 

[ShootIt]

@mouser IIRC 35+ year deals are easier to buyout in terms of saving $ and cap no?
Or is it the reverse?

Ex: Zito signs Bob to a 3 year deal starting 2026-27, they buy him out that 3rd year, they would save 66% of the money and cap no?

I found this, so maybe they softened the stance on +35 contracts.

https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/revised-rules-35-contracts

The rules for 35+ contracts changed in the 2020 CBA MOU. Now, a contract is not considered "35+" if:

-total compensation either stays the same or increases from one year to the subsequent year
-there are no signing bonuses after Year 1

If those criteria are met, the contract is not considered 35+, and therefore the usual contract rules around burying and buyouts apply. If that criteria is not met, it is considered a "35+" contract (if the player turned 35 by June 30), and therefore:

-If the contract is bought out, the original cap hit each year still remains (no cap hit relief from a buyout)
-If the player is sent down, the cap hit is only reduced by $100,000

 

[Sticksandsun]

I found this, so maybe they softened the stance on +35 contracts.

https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/revised-rules-35-contracts

The rules for 35+ contracts changed in the 2020 CBA MOU. Now, a contract is not considered "35+" if:

-total compensation either stays the same or increases from one year to the subsequent year
-there are no signing bonuses after Year 1

If those criteria are met, the contract is not considered 35+, and therefore the usual contract rules around burying and buyouts apply. If that criteria is not met, it is considered a "35+" contract (if the player turned 35 by June 30), and therefore:

-If the contract is bought out, the original cap hit each year still remains (no cap hit relief from a buyout)
-If the player is sent down, the cap hit is only reduced by $100,000

Praying it's a 2 year deal [even if its high caphit] then
Maybe they offer him a role in management/goalie development as well if he's sticking around Florida?

Not sure if he's headed back to Russia when he finally hangs them up?

 

[FrolikFan67]

I doubt the aav on his next deal would be as low as 4per, that’d be such an incredible deal. I’m guessing around 6ish per on a 2-3yr extension